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Old 10-24-2011, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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I am not convinced that more casinos will truly answer any of Maine's problems.
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Old 10-24-2011, 03:17 PM
 
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I worked briefly for the Yes on 2 campaign, and having seen it from the inside, there is something that is not right about how they are approaching this. While the ads trumpet "Jobs! Jobs! JOBS!", they are more interested in their future profits rather then taking the altruistic stand of providing jobs for Mainers.
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Old 10-24-2011, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Limestone
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Being a recent implant to Maine from Missouri I can tell you that they built up the hype of jobs, jobs and jobs there too. In reality most jobs created were temporary jobs. The construction companies that built the casinos, once built the jobs were gone. When the casinos opened all the promised jobs were created BUT within months most were eliminated and the ones left became part-time. These were for most areas of the casino ranging from counters in the money room to waitresses on the floor. About the only ones that really benifited were the casinos, local government and state government via taxes from them. The monies were supposed to go to local schools, no-one is/was really sure if it actually did.

I'm not saying casinos are a bad thing, just not as good as people seem to think and the casinos want you to think.
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Old 10-24-2011, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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The winner in a casino is the house.

Regardless of the slot machine, or table, or how high the waitresses skirt, the winner is the house.

Maine has a lottery, it is ran by a 'house' in Iowa [called MUSL].

The casino in Bangor is owned by 'Penn National Gaming', they are located in Wyomissing, PA.

The winner in a casino is the house.

The winners of gambling in Maine are in Iowa and Penn.
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Old 10-24-2011, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Lebanon, OH
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The winner in a casino is the house.

Regardless of the slot machine, or table, or how high the waitresses skirt, the winner is the house.

Maine has a lottery, it is ran by a 'house' in Iowa [called MUSL].

The casino in Bangor is owned by 'Penn National Gaming', they are located in Wyomissing, PA.

The winner in a casino is the house.

The winners of gambling in Maine are in Iowa and Penn.
They will tell you that the casinos will create 1000s of jobs, mainly for contractors (most from out of state) Buildings are built by general contractors, they use subcontractors to perform various stages of the process, site development, concrete work, iron work, plumbers, electricians, finishers, carpet installers, landscapers, painters, roofers, HVAC, pavers, material suppliers, etc. who work 2 weeks to a few months in the building process. The proponents act as if they were all permanent jobs. The permanent jobs are minimum wage blackjack dealers, bartenders, cooks, dishwashers, and janitors, that amount to a handful of people.

There is a hollywood casino in Lawrenceburg IN, they have they same "you're the star" "endless excitement" commercials you see on TV in Maine, the town now has a strip club and a crime rate that is now double as there have been big winners robbed at gunpoint in the parking lot.
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Old 10-24-2011, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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... There is a hollywood casino in Lawrenceburg IN, they have they same "you're the star" "endless excitement" commercials you see on TV in Maine, the town now has a strip club and a crime rate that is now double as there have been big winners robbed at gunpoint in the parking lot.
I have not seen the TV commercials, but I am sure they exist.


We owned a home in Norwich Ct, before any casinos were in the area. It was in hot debate when we left. Years later we returned and found two casinos. One 4 miles South of our home, the other casino 6 miles East of our home. The entire area had became a boom town. But that was because these two casinos had entered a contest. Each wanted to be the 'World's Biggest Casino'. So they hired hundreds of people. Mostly from overseas. "Come to America, land of opportunity, where a good job awaits you". Little Norwich had became an entirely different town. Drugs, knifings, almost daily the police were finding bodies that had been dumped in alleys. We lived on a street that is only one block long, and there was a child abduction on our street, on our block.

With the recession, they have gone through huge lay-offs. Few people have the money to waste gambling.

In that case, the casinos are owned by locals [in connection with Nevada gaming people]. So it can be argued that the profits have gone to locals. The tribes all have new homes, limos, sports cars, and hookers and cocaine on tap. [I know some of the police, they have stories to tell].

Here in Maine, it is not locals who would be gaining the profits.

Granted 0.005% of the profits may go to this, and 0.004% to that, and blah blah blah. But the primary bulk of the profits go out of state.
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Old 10-25-2011, 11:52 AM
 
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The new racinos would be built by Scarborough Downs and Ocean Properties, so the companies are in Maine.

The reality is they claim they would build two new racinos, one in Biddeford, one in Washington County. I would be a betting man to say the one in Washington County will be tiny. They're mainly interested in Biddeford.
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Old 10-25-2011, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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The new racinos would be built by Scarborough Downs and Ocean Properties, so the companies are in Maine.

The reality is they claim they would build two new racinos, one in Biddeford, one in Washington County. I would be a betting man to say the one in Washington County will be tiny. They're mainly interested in Biddeford.
I do not know who that is.

Is that an office storefront business in Maine?

Are these people experienced in casino operation? if so how if they are Mainers?
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Old 10-25-2011, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Bangor Maine
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It seems like such a joke to call Hollywood Slots a "Racino". They race maybe 3 months of the year on 2 or 3 days a week. Passing by the racetrack regularly when they are racing, there are maybe 30 to 50 people in the stands at the most. It seems there is no regular schedule for the racing either. It changes weekly.
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Old 10-25-2011, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Maine's garden spot
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It seems like such a joke to call Hollywood Slots a "Racino". They race maybe 3 months of the year on 2 or 3 days a week. Passing by the racetrack regularly when they are racing, there are maybe 30 to 50 people in the stands at the most. It seems there is no regular schedule for the racing either. It changes weekly.
To me, harness racing is a dead/dying. 'sport'. Why we even continue the charade is beyond me. And, yes I know that some of this money goes to support the horse owners.
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