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Old 11-09-2011, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Bangor Maine
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IronCouger - I'm guessing you live in a state with a population well over the population of Maine.
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Old 11-09-2011, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Scarborough, ME
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IronCougar - i'm from the Seattle area and you're right, the Muckleshoot casino is definitely a success story there. However, that casino is able to pull customers and their money from a very wealthy Seattle + suburbs which is only 20-30 min away, and Renton, and Issaquah, and all parts inbetween. Biddeford does not have that kind of population to draw from, which is why I really don't think it would have worked the same way as the Muckleshoot casino.

If we want that kind of success, first we need a Microsoft and a Boeing in Maine.
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Old 11-09-2011, 03:26 PM
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Well, I guess we will not know if it would have been sucessful or not.
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:07 PM
 
Location: On a Slow-Sinking Granite Rock Up North
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As far as the state lottery....two wrongs have never corrected a right. It is proven fact the poorest areas sell by far the most tickets. Giving away your money in hopes of getting what.... Desperately needed money....sounds like casino almost huh ?

Exactly my point. The difference is that the State of Maine is the one encouraging it - you know, 'Dream a little or a lot."

Either way, the poor are losing - proving yet again that you can't legislate common sense.

In this case, I say to the state: "Mr. Pot? Please meet Mr. Kettle."

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Old 11-09-2011, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Central Maine
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Wow didnt realize it was an indian casino . I cant belive your state would keep your indians from growing there own business. Keeping the indian nations in poverty is wrong . The Muckleshoot indians were once a very poor tribe . They give back to there community now. They have since also opened a public college no charge open to all indians across the nation. And locals (non indians) are also welcome to take classes also free of charge. 15 years ago there casino started out as a tent casino and grew into a mega destination casino bringing wealth to the area. The casino's in the area draw from Oregon , Idaho, And Canada. And I know several people who quit going to Vegas but stay in state now. I'm not indian I just live close to an Indian reservation and think they deserve a chance succeed . We have taken from them I like giving back a new chance at life and for them to be independent.
First of all, no one is keeping the Native Americans from doing anything. They are free to build anything the rest of us can build. What is it about being a Native American that means you have special priviledge when it comes to gambling????? Here in Maine, we had a massive Indian Land Claims settlement that was supposed to end the whole entitlement issue. Funny thing about trying to end any entitlement.... it never happens.

Second, I think these gambling measures failed because thinking Mainers wondered at what point we would have too many of these facilities, with all but one going under. There is only a finite amount of money that will ever be spent gambling in Maine. Building 100 facilities to do it doesn't change that fact. I also got nervous about all the out-of-state money being used to promote those measures. Exactly WHO was really going to benefit?
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Old 11-10-2011, 07:08 AM
 
Location: On a Slow-Sinking Granite Rock Up North
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First of all, no one is keeping the Native Americans from doing anything. They are free to build anything the rest of us can build. What is it about being a Native American that means you have special priviledge when it comes to gambling????? Here in Maine, we had a massive Indian Land Claims settlement that was supposed to end the whole entitlement issue. Funny thing about trying to end any entitlement.... it never happens.



Second, I think these gambling measures failed because thinking Mainers wondered at what point we would have too many of these facilities, with all but one going under. There is only a finite amount of money that will ever be spent gambling in Maine. Building 100 facilities to do it doesn't change that fact. I also got nervous about all the out-of-state money being used to promote those measures. Exactly WHO was really going to benefit?




Given how many Canadian tour busses I see in the Bangor Mall area at any given point in time, I'd have to say Washington County probably would have benefitted from those tourist dollars.

But, I suppose that given how Washington County seems to often be a punching bag for the rest of the state, it doesn't truly surprise me that it didn't pass.

It's unfortunate IMHO because if we are going to continue to prostitute ourselves as "Vacationland" then we should be more open to tourist money flowing in besides a ticket to walk in the woods and an overnight stay or two at the Katahdin Inn and Suites, while our federal tax dollars eventually pay for maintaining trails (because let's have a little reality check here - that's exactly what's going to happen eventually).

Personally, I'd rather see jobs other than tourism jobs, but this thinking Mainer believes that ain't gonna happen anytime soon, and so be it.
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Old 11-10-2011, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Sunrise County ~Maine
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LOL sorry you didnt get your economic engine. 15 years ago the city i lived in was poor and not growing either . But a mega casino was built and then it happened We got a 1,000,000 square ft outlet mall, A horse race track, Several large Hotels, A large Amphitheater the has concerts with up to 25,000 people. The city doubled in size from 35,000 to 70,0000 and became a regional destination. I since have moved back to that city and its much nicer now with lots of new parks and pubic spaces. Its verry clean much of the city is new. And jobs are abundent good paying jobs. And it all started buy an casino See they took the profits from the casino to keep building attractions like the race track and amphitheater. And built a nice area that people want to visit and live in. Good Luck in the Future
I'm not sure a "Casino" is what we need... but the only "burn" is that other parts of the state says.. "No"or Yes" for us- and that's the grrr for me on growth.
I like my little patch of heaven here. It's simple.

Like Acadia National Park for a "quick" example..
We should beable to focus on that simple and turn it up a notch.

Our area is on a major crossing into Atlantic Canada and Canadians love to travel, shop, and eat out.
We should be able to "work" with what we got, add to it, and move forward.
That's about it.
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Old 11-10-2011, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Florida (SW)
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It seemed that the vote against the casinos was pretty much spread out across the state...it wasn't the southern part of the state against the north.....it was pretty much that Mainer's didnt feel the state could support 5 casino's. It didnt feel that it was an anti-gambling sentiment..it wasnt liberals against conservatives Dems against Repbs.....it was more a practical common sense; a judgement....that the revenue from gambling wasnt an unlimited resource.
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Old 11-10-2011, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Dade City, Fl.
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hopefully that will end it.....but I somehow doubt it......
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Old 11-10-2011, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Sacramento, CA/Dover-Foxcroft, ME
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Well, we didn't open one of these...

And maybe folks will be able to keep a little more of this...

Now, back to regularly scheduled reprogramming.
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