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Old 10-17-2012, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Maine
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Here's an article a friend showed me. Check out the part where they tell us that heating oil could be scarce this winter. Distillates are down 43% from the average in the Northeast. There are refinerys out all around the Atlantic, but still that doesn't explain us down so much at the beginning of the winter.

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Old 10-17-2012, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Sacramento, CA/Dover-Foxcroft, ME
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Here's an article a friend showed me. Check out the part where they tell us that heating oil could be scarce this winter. Distillates are down 43% from the average in the Northeast. There are refinerys out all around the Atlantic, but still that doesn't explain us down so much at the beginning of the winter.

Peak Heating Oil
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Check out this excerpt that was recently published in the industry publication, This Week in Petroleum. . .
For the week ending October 5, distillate inventories in the U.S. Northeast (PADDs 1A and 1B) were 28.3 million barrels, about 21.5 million barrels (43 percent) below their five-year average level (Figure 1). Distillate inventories have historically been used to meet normal winter heating demand but are also an important source of supply when demand surges as a result of unexpected or extreme cold spells. The low distillate inventories could contribute to heating oil price volatility this winter. In addition, outages at several major refineries, notably Petroleos de Venezuelaís Amuay Refinery, Shell Oilís Pernis Refinery in the Netherlands, and Irving Oilís Saint John Refinery in Canada, have added to the fundamental market pressures in the Atlantic Basin.

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Out in CA, we've experienced outages at refineries too and we're still paying for it at the pumps.

Our old house is right on route 7 (The Katahdin Trail) near Dover and I wish they would put a nat. gas line through there someday. That would be awesome. Right now, we get our heat and hot water from heating oil. The 1850's house has four bedrooms upstairs that are closed off in the winter. That makes it a one bedroom house to heat now and still you have to wear a sweater if you want to save money. The furnace is relatively new but I would hope to put a wood stove back down there someday like they did in the good old days.
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Old 10-18-2012, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Bangor Maine
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RMoore - have you insulated your house? It would help if the outside walls were insulated but especiall the attic.
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Old 10-18-2012, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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The very cold winter we had five years ago coincided with a federal crackdown on driver hours and certification of fuel delivery drivers. It was simply not possible to meet demand. People were buying Diesel fuel in 5 gallon cans and pouring it into their home heating oil tanks with funnels. Many older homeowners are simply physically unable to do this.

Got your wood in?
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Old 10-18-2012, 05:57 PM
 
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I'll be mostly off oil this year (maybe only when its really really cold) and onto wood products.
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:31 AM
 
Location: On a Slow-Sinking Granite Rock Up North
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Is there ever really a year that goes by that we are not 'warned' of shortage, or expense, or ____________ (fill in the blank) in regard to home heating oil?

Mainers are typically prepared for this. I've got my wood in. The people I feel baddest for are the people on a fixed income and have no means to supplement their oil bill.

I just had a conversation with my veterinarian about natural gas. He just converted and has saved 2/3 of his heating bill. He lives in town. It's too bad we couldn't push that more up here, but I guess Mainer's are just a stubborn lot when it comes to change.
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Old 10-19-2012, 10:49 AM
 
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I think natural gas is awesome, but unfortunately it hasn't gotten here yet. I think a lot of people are going to be paying over $4 a gallon for oil this winter, if this is true. I sharpened up the chainsaw and am ready to cut more wood if need be, but I would like to get through with our usual 300 gallons of heating oil and a cord of wood.
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Old 10-19-2012, 12:09 PM
 
Location: On a Slow-Sinking Granite Rock Up North
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I think natural gas is awesome, but unfortunately it hasn't gotten here yet. I think a lot of people are going to be paying over $4 a gallon for oil this winter, if this is true. I sharpened up the chainsaw and am ready to cut more wood if need be, but I would like to get through with our usual 300 gallons of heating oil and a cord of wood.
My vet's DIL comes from Minnesota. He was amazed that they have it even out in the far flung rural areas. But, considering this is Maine and most far flung rural areas can't even get cable TV, I don't think it'll happen in my lifetime. The Bangor/Brewer areas have it, and I have a couple of friends who have invested in it. They are very pleased with the cost savings.

We have to consider window replacement soon. This year is the "year of the roof." Our house is drafty. I had the oil company run the numbers for what we spent last year and it was $2100.00. That's an all time high for us, and we supplement with wood. We also heat the hot water through the furnace. I'm taking as much overtime as is being offered right now, because I think you're right - it's going to be a killer year for oil costs.

If I were in a position to sell it and move to a smaller more efficient home then I would. As of right now, our life dictates that this is impossible. Such is life - I'll be thankful that I have a job.
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Old 10-19-2012, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Maine's garden spot
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My vet's DIL comes from Minnesota. He was amazed that they have it even out in the far flung rural areas. But, considering this is Maine and most far flung rural areas can't even get cable TV, I don't think it'll happen in my lifetime. The Bangor/Brewer areas have it, and I have a couple of friends who have invested in it. They are very pleased with the cost savings.

We have to consider window replacement soon. This year is the "year of the roof." Our house is drafty. I had the oil company run the numbers for what we spent last year and it was $2100.00. That's an all time high for us, and we supplement with wood. We also heat the hot water through the furnace. I'm taking as much overtime as is being offered right now, because I think you're right - it's going to be a killer year for oil costs.

If I were in a position to sell it and move to a smaller more efficient home then I would. As of right now, our life dictates that this is impossible. Such is life - I'll be thankful that I have a job.
I can get you some more cardboard if you'd like.
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Old 10-19-2012, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Sacramento, CA/Dover-Foxcroft, ME
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Our old house is right on route 7 (The Katahdin Trail) near Dover and I wish they would put a nat. gas line through there someday. That would be awesome. Right now, we get our heat and hot water from heating oil. The 1850's house has four bedrooms upstairs that are closed off in the winter. That makes it a one bedroom house to heat now and still you have to wear a sweater if you want to save money. The furnace is relatively new but I would hope to put a wood stove back down there someday like they did in the good old days.
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RMoore - have you insulated your house? It would help if the outside walls were insulated but especiall the attic.
I'm not sure you want to know. Lots of stuff has been done to the old place. My dad once had someone sell him that their company should drill through the wood floors upstairs and pump foam in there. So the whole top floor has one inch diameter holes about two feet apart under all the new carpeting they had to cover the floor with after that. Another salesman sold him vinyl siding with storm windows that just cover the original ones. Places for cluster flies to cluster.. Another salesman sold us a metal roof that leaked around the chimney and ruined half a bedroom ceiling. Another salesman sold dad on letting him cut wood around the 40-50 acre property and he'd trim the trees around the house for free. He did a terrible job and abused his privilege. Dad even paid him over $500.

Never could get any to come out and fix anything or complain too much as it seams they have all died. The guy that did the floors, the roofing guy, the man that sold the siding and especially the wood cutter. All were older gentlemen that either knew dad or someone knew someone that knew dad. Dad was a great salesman once too and he just loved to be sold. I asked him about it once when he was 75 and he just said that I always made all the decisions and it never occurred to me to ask for advice or get another opinion.

The attic insulated? I'm not sure. The old place is a mystery really.
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