Advice On Moving to Maine (for rent, unemployed, transfer)

[forest beekeeper]

Originally Posted by Petertherock

Oh yeah, and it's not like I had any choice where I was raised and where my parents moved. Unfortunately, unless something unexpected happens and I come into a bunch of money I am stuck here for 4-5 more years.

Since I turned 18 I have never lived in any one place for more than 3 years.

5 years can be a long time.

We plan to stay here forever now that I am retired. But it is our plan.

During my working career, I would have gone to a new location, bought property, moved in and lived there, and gone on to a new location again; all before 5 years had gone by.

If you are planning on going somewhere: "put one foot in front of the other", as they say.

The more so if you are in a place that you do not like.

I once boarded a fellow named Dave C. who was complaining a lot about living there, I bought him a greyhound ticket, helped him pack, and I took him to the greyhound station. I met up with him 10 years later and he thanked me. I still get email from him.

There is no reason good enough to justify living a life that miserable, if your dream is Kentucky [or where ever], then everyday that you stay here you are doing yourself a dis-service.

[mollysmiles]

Originally Posted by Petertherock

Oh yeah, and it's not like I had any choice where I was raised and where my parents moved. Unfortunately, unless something unexpected happens and I come into a bunch of money I am stuck here for 4-5 more years.

weird....your profile says you're 35, so I thought you were....sorry.

[Elcarim]

Originally Posted by forest beekeeper

Since I turned 18 I have never lived in any one place for more than 3 years.

5 years can be a long time.

We plan to stay here forever now that I am retired. But it is our plan.

During my working career, I would have gone to a new location, bought property, moved in and lived there, and gone on to a new location again; all before 5 years had gone by.

If you are planning on going somewhere: "put one foot in front of the other", as they say.

The more so if you are in a place that you do not like.

I once boarded a fellow named Dave C. who was complaining a lot about living there, I bought him a greyhound ticket, helped him pack, and I took him to the greyhound station. I met up with him 10 years later and he thanked me. I still get email from him.

There is no reason good enough to justify living a life that miserable, if your dream is Kentucky [or where ever], then everyday that you stay here you are doing yourself a dis-service.

Amen! And I have to say, Daryl, that if you're 35 and still living wherever your parents want you to, you and I need to talk, my friend!

[Abbymoulton]

Originally Posted by Petertherock

Unfortunately, unless something unexpected happens and I come into a bunch of money I am stuck here for 4-5 more years.

If you hate it that much... don't wait. Life is too short to be so miserable. Money???? We are leaving FOR Maine in 5 months and 3 days with whatever we have saved by then. As long as we have enough for gas, tolls and a couple hamburgers along the way..we are going. Whatever we can fit in and take, we will. The "stuff" would be sad to leave, but it would be far worse to not be there. So, stop the "poor me's" and DO SOMETHING about it that will make you happy.

[AlisonL]

Originally Posted by Petertherock

Oh yeah, and it's not like I had any choice where I was raised and where my parents moved. Unfortunately, unless something unexpected happens and I come into a bunch of money I am stuck here for 4-5 more years.

You are only stuck here because you choose to be. You want a warmer winter climate, then do something about it. You are the one who can make the changes you want. Find yourself a job in whatever state you desire and then go. In short, quityabellyachin!

[SoCal2Maine]

Hi Peter...

I totally get the feeling of "stuck" and believe me I know that it's very frustrating and even painful. I don't know what your situation is; maybe you have a family that you're providing for and money is tight, so saving for a big move is out of the question. Or maybe you are a young man and you have fear - fear of moving by yourself to a new place, fear of leaving your whole family...

Either way I feel you!

I'm not too happy in SoCal. (Right now it's nice - it's cool - and since we just had a pretty good rain, it's beautiful and fresh and it smells good!) But! I know what's coming...6 months of dry, sweltering & relentless heat.

So I read all of the posts that responded to your quandry and then I reread them...because they're good! And inspiring! And there's some tuff luv in there too.

And I thank you Peter for what you posted because I don't really care for the place that I live either and because you gave a valid point; to think about the other side of snow...the work involved...the mud, etc.

I truly hope that 2008 finds you, Jpurvis, Abby, Dramma, Elcarim, the rest of you whom I can't think of right now... and me in the destination of choice!

[forest beekeeper]

I have observed a few things in life, this may ramble but bare with me.

When I was a teen, I would go into dance-halls and have a drink. Then approach a lady, introduce myself and ask for a dance. She would reject me. Guaranteed. This would happen to me every Friday night.

So I would go around the room, and each lady would in turn reject me. I would go back and have another drink and an hour later start the routine again. Once one lady would agree to dance with me, then everything would change, and I would spend the rest of the evening dancing. If you are not seen dancing with a lady, then no lady wants to dance with you. But once they have seen you dancing with a lady, then half of them are willing to dance with you.

It is like this with jobs.

The best job offers that I have had, have came to me when I was already working, or when I was not looking for a job. When I desperately needed a job, none could be found.

I do not fully understand this, but in life, it is not always mine to understand the dynamic, but to learn to adapt to it and ride it.

Any job is a job.

Any job is a paycheck and gets you working.

Once you have a job, and are in the 'groove' of working then other jobs will become available to you.

So I am fully in favour of minimum-wage pushing a broom in a parking lot, or flipping a burger jobs.

When you 'wake-up' and find yourself somewhere, you go and get a minimum wage survive-job. Only after that do you check out, and find the jobs in your preferred career field.

I have known numerous ministers who went out from the seminary as window-washers [in our seminary that was the big thing, to be window-washing]. But unless you already had the equipment and a wad of cash in your pocket your stuck. One day of working from prospective business to business, might only get you one client, and not enough to survive on.

So first you flip burgers. Then on your days off, you walk the business district starting up new clients. A dozen clients is enough to establish a survive-income, then shift over to window washing full-time and continue to build your clientele. Soon your window washing on your own hours, whatever days you want to work, your meeting people, supporting yourself, and ready to take on a church. And that was how they did it [or should I say do it, that is still their operating model].

Now I was career Navy, though I also had breaks in my service and did other things. I have known many window-washing ministers, of whom I attended classes with, and fellowships with. In the church that we spent most of my life with [though I am currently not 'with' them], you could call their HQ and get the number of a congregation in a city where you wanted to move to. You could call ahead and they would see if they could find a bed or a couch for you when you arrived. Once in that area, a minimum-wage job to get your feet underneath you, and then you started a window-washing business.

I have known many people [male and female] who have hitch-hiked their way across country, with only a gym bag or back-pack [and a huge dose of believing]. As they were going off to start up a church somewhere.

If you are going to start somewhere, the bottom is usually the best place to start.

If you have a car, great! If you don't, fine.

If you need a gym bag to stuff your clothes in, I will gladly give you a gym-bag.

Everything else is junk, it weights you down and anchors you in place. Travel light!

It is my world-view [and you are welcome to view me as crazy, that you can go into any city in America and even if you are not a member of any church, be directed to a shelter where you can eat and sleep for a couple days. You can find a survive-job, and get your feet underneath you. Then you can move on, in what ever direction you want.

Our eldest son went to Kansas on a 400cc motorcycle, chasing after a girl who he had met at a seminary workshop. He had no job. He flipped burgers when he go there. I have never been to Kansas [except to drive through fast and maybe stop to buy fuel], and before going their he had never been to Kansas either. It is now three years later. He is now a truck driver. He has bought a house, he split it and he has two sets of renters. The girl has since left him. He is focusing on buying his own big rig. And thinking about leaving Kansas.

Which goes back to further support my belief that you can go anywhere in America with the shirt on your back, and you can build a life for yourself.

Going to Salina Kansas broke and with a burnt-out motorcycle, and in three years having rental apartments, and a promising career that is capable of blossoming into a owner-operator business! That is a success story if ever I heard one.

You can go anywhere in America with the shirt on your back, and you can build a life for yourself. If you need a gym bag to stuff your clothes in, I will gladly give you a gym-bag.

[SoCal2Maine]

But once they have seen you dancing with a lady, then half of them are willing to dance with you.
- That's because we want to see how you dance first!

The best job offers that I have had, have came to me when I was already working, or when I was not looking for a job. When I desperately needed a job, none could be found.

I do not fully understand this, but in life, it is not always mine to understand the dynamic, but to learn to adapt to it and ride it.

Any job is a job.

Any job is a paycheck and gets you working.

Once you have a job, and are in the 'groove' of working then other jobs will become available to you.

So I am fully in favour of minimum-wage pushing a broom in a parking lot, or flipping a burger jobs.

When you 'wake-up' and find yourself somewhere, you go and get a minimum wage survive-job. Only after that do you check out, and find the jobs in your preferred career field.

I have known numerous ministers who went out from the seminary as window-washers [in our seminary that was the big thing, to be window-washing]. But unless you already had the equipment and a wad of cash in your pocket your stuck. One day of working from prospective business to business, might only get you one client, and not enough to survive on.

So first you flip burgers. Then on your days off, you walk the business district starting up new clients. A dozen clients is enough to establish a survive-income, then shift over to window washing full-time and continue to build your clientele. Soon your window washing on your own hours, whatever days you want to work, your meeting people, supporting yourself, and ready to take on a church. And that was how they did it [or should I say do it, that is still their operating model].

Now I was career Navy, though I also had breaks in my service and did other things. I have known many window-washing ministers, of whom I attended classes with, and fellowships with. In the church that we spent most of my life with [though I am currently not 'with' them], you could call their HQ and get the number of a congregation in a city where you wanted to move to. You could call ahead and they would see if they could find a bed or a couch for you when you arrived. Once in that area, a minimum-wage job to get your feet underneath you, and then you started a window-washing business.

I have known many people [male and female] who have hitch-hiked their way across country, with only a gym bag or back-pack [and a huge dose of believing]. As they were going off to start up a church somewhere.

If you are going to start somewhere, the bottom is usually the best place to start.

If you have a car, great! If you don't, fine.

If you need a gym bag to stuff your clothes in, I will gladly give you a gym-bag.

Everything else is junk, it weights you down and anchors you in place. Travel light!

It is my world-view [and you are welcome to view me as crazy, that you can go into any city in America and even if you are not a member of any church, be directed to a shelter where you can eat and sleep for a couple days. You can find a survive-job, and get your feet underneath you. Then you can move on, in what ever direction you want.

Our eldest son went to Kansas on a 400cc motorcycle, chasing after a girl who he had met at a seminary workshop. He had no job. He flipped burgers when he go there. I have never been to Kansas [except to drive through fast and maybe stop to buy fuel], and before going their he had never been to Kansas either. It is now three years later. He is now a truck driver. He has bought a house, he split it and he has two sets of renters. The girl has since left him. He is focusing on buying his own big rig. And thinking about leaving Kansas.

Which goes back to further support my belief that you can go anywhere in America with the shirt on your back, and you can build a life for yourself.

Going to Salina Kansas broke and with a burnt-out motorcycle, and in three years having rental apartments, and a promising career that is capable of blossoming into a owner-operator business! That is a success story if ever I heard one.

You can go anywhere in America with the shirt on your back, and you can build a life for yourself. If you need a gym bag to stuff your clothes in, I will gladly give you a gym-bag.

Not rambling at all, very inspiring - your son has grit! Good for him!

[Jpurvis]

Very Nice Forest, Very nice indeed!!

[msina]

Great post Forest!