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View Poll Results: What political party do you most fit into?
1. Republican 10 23.81%
2. Democrat 12 28.57%
3. Libertarian 9 21.43%
4. Socialist 2 4.76%
5. Communist 2 4.76%
6. Non participant in political discussions 0 0%
7. Other 7 16.67%
Voters: 42. You may not vote on this poll

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Unread 12-16-2007, 08:28 PM
 
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Soon to be joined by ex-senator Trent Lott - what a disgrace

He's got a whole lot of company there in disgrace-land.
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Unread 12-16-2007, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Maryland not Murlin
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Does anyone have the La/Lo of these 600 camps? If they exist there must be aerial photos of them, and we can all see them. If someone knows where one of them are, or where all 600 - 800 of them are. If they are.
No co-ords, but ask this in the New Mexico forum and see what people say.
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Unread 12-16-2007, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Well, here's a guy talking about underground military bases. .
Cool, I am retired military. My ID card gains me access onto every military base, and my DW works on-base. Where are these underground bases, I want to go play golf
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Unread 12-16-2007, 10:07 PM
 
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He's got a whole lot of company there in disgrace-land.
That is for sure.
What an un-noble profession politics has morphed into these days compared to the times of the Founding Fathers.
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Unread 12-16-2007, 11:17 PM
 
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Someone said something that made sense to me: paranoia is perfect awareness.
To quote that respected philospher Dr. Johnny Fever (WKRP):

"Hey, man, it ain't paranoia when they're all aout to get ya!"
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Unread 12-17-2007, 05:06 AM
 
Location: Southwestern Ohio
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Yeah, there are quite a few websites concerning concentration camps in the U.S., but if you look at them closely they all appear to be the product of (or influenced by) the same person and his followers. I am not absolutely certain, but I would guess that we are seeing the power of the internet in spreading ideas, in this case those of someone who has a particularly paranoid frame of mind.

Still it does make the constitutionally protected "right of the people to keep and bear arms" seem like a real good idea.
Exactly!! Just to be no the safe side. After all, isn't that why our forefathers had the foresight to enact the 2nd ammendment.

I have no idea wehter or not thay are real, but some days I wonder where our government is truly headed (i.e. raising the terror level just to be able to keep the herd in line).
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Unread 12-17-2007, 05:11 AM
 
Location: Southwestern Ohio
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Well, here's a guy talking about underground military bases. Big shock there. Disney has an entire underground city and so does Tampa. You can rock and roll down there and in atlanta. So ....
http://salonesoterica.wordpress.com/...tration-camps/

Again, I haven't passed an opinion.

But, I do disagree that everything is visible from the air and from google. The photos of my area have cars there that have not been in our hood for YEARS. As well, they publicized that they were pulling other information for whatever reasons. I don't keep track of this stuff but remember a techie friend of mine discussing it with another.
I'm not a real google map person ... people have tried to impress me with google info but once I viewed the ones from my hood and saw how old they were and very amateurish I have not been too impressed.

Again, it's not my opinion that they exist one way or another. dramamama made a comment. I replied. The videos are sickening. If true. While watching anything I'm always picking it apart. I have a hard time watching movies because I am a producer and am aware of and looking for flaws ... so .. as the world's foremost skeptic .... I was passing on what I have viewed and heard discussed.

I think we should all be avidly looking for coordinates.

I'll ask around. That's a very valid point but not so much if there are underground bases which shouldn't surprise anyone.

Why would it??

Nothing surprises me. NOTHING.
Nothing would surprise me either. I was just giving out a partial info from DH..didn't mean to stir up a hot topic, just giving a what if..wouldn't that be creepy?
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Unread 12-17-2007, 12:00 PM
 
Location: South Portland, Maine
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So many people voice their concern and fear of government. It’s a good thing to distrust government. But my fear lies with the people who do not fear government, those who need and depend on government too much, those that have taken so much of our history and distorted it to mean something else. It is far less likely for our government to be building secret concentrations camps while planning to overthrow our existing form of government and install a dictatorship then it would be for the “sheeple” here to give it to them. Judging the poll so far has me very concerned and now I am not surprised by the state of economy Maine is in.

"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known, and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very hall of government itself. For the traitor appears no traitor. He speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their garments, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in hearts of men. He rots the soul of a nation. He works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city. He infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A Murderer Is Less To Be Feared." Cicero, 42 B.C.
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Unread 12-17-2007, 12:42 PM
 
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flycessna, it's like you and i are talking about the exact same thing.

Has America ever been more troubled???

Sinclair Lewis:

When Fascism comes to America it will come wrapped in the American flag and carrying a cross.

hmmmmm

Thanks for the quote. I like it.



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So many people voice their concern and fear of government. It’s a good thing to distrust government. But my fear lies with the people who do not fear government, those who need and depend on government too much, those that have taken so much of our history and distorted it to mean something else. It is far less likely for our government to be building secret concentrations camps while planning to overthrow our existing form of government and install a dictatorship then it would be for the “sheeple” here to give it to them. Judging the poll so far has me very concerned and now I am not surprised by the state of economy Maine is in.

"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known, and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very hall of government itself. For the traitor appears no traitor. He speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their garments, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in hearts of men. He rots the soul of a nation. He works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city. He infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A Murderer Is Less To Be Feared." Cicero, 42 B.C.
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Unread 12-17-2007, 12:44 PM
 
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Cool, I am retired military. My ID card gains me access onto every military base, and my DW works on-base. Where are these underground bases, I want to go play golf

LOL !! One of those links listed about fifty of them. DIdn't read the whole thing.

I kinda doubt your or my id card would give us access to anything of the sort if indeed it exists.

Underground golf? Now, there's a concept
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