treegrowth plan (good/bad) (Norway: buying, eat, estimated)

[forest beekeeper]

Organic Maine Indian Cucumber pickles!

You could corner the organic market entirely with a unique product

[AliceT]

Oh forest, my friend. Have you never tasted an Indian Cucumber? To think of one of those delectible things being pickled is nothing short of a sin. That would be like pickling a water chestnut. eeeeEEEEWWWW

[forest beekeeper]

Originally Posted by AliceT

Oh forest, my friend. Have you never tasted an Indian Cucumber? To think of one of those delectible things being pickled is nothing short of a sin. That would be like pickling a water chestnut. eeeeEEEEWWWW

Well there you go.

Not only a niche in marketing but in consumer education as well.

A lot of Farmer's Market vendors do 'education', if you have not noticed.

All the more reason to keep land in 'Treegrowth'.

I do understand that having land in Treegrowth does limit what you can do with that land. However I am perfectly willing to conform my future plans and goals to being within all that is allowed by 'Treegrowth'.

Gleaning a forest floor for dead wood can heat my home through the winters.

My livestock seem happy to live and forage beneath the forest canopy, and as such we can produce eggs, chevron, pork, and lamb.

I have not inoculated logs with mushrooms yet [so far our mushrooms grow in our crawlspace], but it is another option.

Fiddle heads grow, ginseng grows, 'Indian Cucumbers', etc, all beneath the canopy.

We are planting over a dozen apple trees. Our driveway is being lined with garlic raised beds.

Berries and cereal grains can grow in the clearings.

You could easily produce milk, and either cheese or soap from the milk. The local organic cheesemaker's guild is looking for more members. I have been courted by two members of the guild.

I am entirely in favour of having land in 'Treegrowth' status and functioning within a 'Forestry Management Plan'.

It keeps my taxes low, and allows me to live a wonderful lifestyle in Maine even on my fixed-income pension.

[forest beekeeper]

Ooops how silly of me, I forgot to mention honey bees.

Did you know that honey bees can be placed within a forest?

Some folks did not realize that honey bees can be placed in a forest. But there is the possibility of being a Forest Beekeeper, husbanding bees within a forest setting.

I keep forgetting to mention that option.

[msina]

Forest you're such a "Honey"!

[AliceT]

Originally Posted by forest beekeeper

I do understand that having land in Treegrowth does limit what you can do with that land. However I am perfectly willing to conform my future plans and goals to being within all that is allowed by 'Treegrowth'.

I am entirely in favour of having land in 'Treegrowth' status and functioning within a 'Forestry Management Plan'.

It keeps my taxes low, and allows me to live a wonderful lifestyle in Maine even on my fixed-income pension.

That was, and answers my question.

[wnc-eky-me]

"I do understand that having land in Treegrowth does limit what you can do with that land. However I am perfectly willing to conform my future plans and goals to being within all that is allowed by 'Treegrowth'.


I am entirely in favour of having land in 'Treegrowth' status and functioning within a 'Forestry Management Plan'.

It keeps my taxes low, and allows me to live a wonderful lifestyle in Maine even on my fixed-income pension."


I think those statements show the type of mindset a person needs to have to succeed in the tree growth program. Very well put.

Now all we got to do is to convince the Maine Forest Service to plant trees instead of the wait and see approach.

[AliceT]

"Now all we got to do is to convince the Maine Forest Service to plant trees instead of the wait and see approach."

Oh no ya don't. Nope, nope, nope. Let me rephrase a statement that was quite common in FL, particularly uttered by native Floridians (and yes, there a whole heap of native Floridians in Florida). "We don't care how you do it up noth. Welcome to Florida - and the way we do it here."

Allow me to change it a little bit and apply as needed once I am there.

[forest beekeeper]

Originally Posted by wnc-eky-me

...
I think those statements show the type of mindset a person needs to have to succeed in the tree growth program. Very well put.

Thank you, sir.

...
Now all we got to do is to convince the Maine Forest Service to plant trees instead of the wait and see approach.

With all due respect, I have lived in many different areas in my life. No matter where you go saying: "When I was in b-l-a-h we did it this a way", is a sure method of insulting the locals.

I feel somewhat comfortable in using the example of the West coast forestry management methods here on CD, as we are a mixture of folk from all different areas and not purely Mainiacs. So here we are comparing cultures and ways of doing things.

I have mentioned physical humans in a forest re-planting trees to Foresters; and it got the reaction of an insult.

It is simply not how Mainiacs do things.

Telling them that they should do it in some other fashion, will not be met kindly.

Once a kindly Maine-native gentleman pulled me aside and explained to me that in their minds I had lost all resemblance of competency. I am simply a fool mouthing non-sense, and they will be ignore me from then on.



Much is done in Maine based upon your reputation and perceived level of competency. Ruin that and it will linger in folks' minds for the rest of their lives.

Two days ago, I traveled with a neighbor to buy hay. Neither of us had previously met this hay farmer. He farms in a different town and we were not very familiar with his area. He was very friendly and in the course of speaking with him, he listed off most of the other farmers who he does business with, and their reputations. In his mind, he was doing us a great favour. Warning us of which farmers to stay away from, and which folks would try to take unfair advantage of us. As well as which farmers in his area were fair, honest, and good men.

Now I think that if even half of the folks are like this one hay farmer, keeping track of everyone's reputation and sharing this 'knowledge' with new people. Then once you ruin your reputation in Maine, it will remain ruined for a long time.

Your results may vary.

[kellysmith]

wnc-eky-me,
I don't think I can tell you what they do in North Carolina, but I can tell you that in my world they don't cut Pine in June or July because of the staining that occurs. I would agree that it's a fungus, but not carried up a tree by beetles. As for pine being cut in winter, I defer to the folks in Maine cutting the pine rather than what happens in North Carolina. Maybe boulders the size of small cars scattered around the landscape (which I doubt you see in North Carolina) have something to do with it. I remember one particular pine that scaled out with 2300 bd ft. That's almost 5 cord of wood. And it hit the ground pretty hard. And it doesn't matter if that's the way it's done or not. At least there are a few old loggers in Maine doing it that way. Sorry if it sounds harsh, but I sort of took your comments to say mine were not true.