Maine and firearms, Ok - or not? (Bangor, China: sales, buyer)

[Maineah]

I have often thought of getting a machinegun but I think it would mess up the deer too much.

[RANGER.101ST]

Originally Posted by Maineah

I have often thought of getting a machinegun but I think it would mess up the deer too much.

you could shoot em and gutem at the same time.

[Maineah]

Originally Posted by RANGER.101ST

you could shoot em and gutem at the same time.

Good for making hamburger I guess??!!

[Northern Maine Land Man]

"Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom? Congress shall have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American. The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or the state governments, but where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the People."

Tench Coxe, 1788.

[Travismaine]

Originally Posted by Northern Maine Land Man

Maine is also an open carry state. You can carry a hand gun openly with no permit. That said, you can't carry one loaded in your vehicle without a permit. It's a nuisance to load and unload every time you move your truck so many people simply get a concealed weapons permit. Mine is filled out with a ball point pen and is legal anywhere in Maine; no photos, no fingerprints, no list of weapons you may carry. Yes, that includes Portland.

Your concealed weapon permit should be legal in all 50 states, just like your driver's license. Human rights should not end at state lines.

Not quite correct. First while Maine does allow open carry there is local ordinance against it in Portland. Of course anywhere else in Maine you can legally carry in the open however you will be to busy dealing with police to get anything done as there will a hundred calls of a armed man everywhere you go. A few years ago on a bet I did just this in Bangor. Every place I got out of my truck I was approached by police within 5 min I did this 15 times and got called in by the public every time many times people run away from me and two people actuality screamed. So while it may be legal it would be foolish to do so. As a side note I also think Waterville has a local rule about open carry as well. The permit allows you to hide the fact your armed why would you want to advertise anyway unless your camping or in a remote spot outside of towns and city's. Second you permit does not allow you to carry any weapon. It is for handguns ONLY nothing else no big knives, swords, black jacks, night sticks and alike. As for the reason why our permit is not good in all states is because some states simply do not allow CCW. Then there is the fact that the requirements vary greatly from state to state. I lived in Md for a while years ago and had to take a 2 weeks of classroom work and 2 days of range time then you had to carry only the handgun you listed. Years later they changed the law s only a person who handles money or owns a business and of course a LE can get one. In Maine it varies from town to town. Here in Machias we only have to fill out the paperwork and take a 1 hour class with no test of any sort. Some towns require class time some range time and some both. The big reason to standardize the requirement is to adopt the CCW purchase rule. This has been done in many states so if you wish to purchase a firearm all you have to do is show your permit and pay the man he simply logs the firearm out to you no paperwork at all. Of course I to believe in what should be and the is no involvement by the gov in anything to do with firearms at all including carry however these are the laws thus we obey them. Maine constitution article 1 section 16 "Every citizen has a right to keep and bear arms and this right shall never be questioned." Life the way it should be!!

[melinuxfool]

Originally Posted by Travismaine

Not quite correct. First while Maine does allow open carry there is local ordinance against it in Portland. Of course anywhere else in Maine you can legally carry in the open however you will be to busy dealing with police to get anything done as there will a hundred calls of a armed man everywhere you go.

I'm not going to argue politics, as that's for another forum. But Portland's ordinances, and really, any other city's ordinances, are null and void per Maine's preemption law.

Title 25, §2011: State preemption

1. Preemption. The State intends to occupy and preempt the entire field of legislation concerning the regulation of firearms, components, ammunition and supplies. Except as provided in subsection 3, any existing or future order, ordinance, rule or regulation in this field of any political subdivision of the State is void.
[ 1989, c. 359, (NEW) .]

2. Regulation restricted. Except as provided in subsection 3, no political subdivision of the State, including, but not limited to, municipalities, counties, townships and village corporations, may adopt any order, ordinance, rule or regulation concerning the sale, purchase, purchase delay, transfer, ownership, use, possession, bearing, transportation, licensing, permitting, registration, taxation or any other matter pertaining to firearms, components, ammunition or supplies.
[ 1989, c. 359, (NEW) .]

3. Exception. This section does not prohibit an order, ordinance, rule or regulation of any political subdivision which, with the exception of appropriate civil penalty provisions, conforms exactly with any applicable provision of state law or which regulates the discharge of firearms within a jurisdiction.
[ 1989, c. 359, (NEW) .]

4. Law enforcement agency. Nothing in this section limits the power of any law enforcement agency to regulate the type and use of firearms issued or authorized by that agency for use by its employees. For the purposes of this section "law enforcement agency" has the same meaning as set forth in section 3701.p

Cities in Maine do not have any legal authority to regulate possession of firearms, though they can prohibit the discharge of firearms within the city limits.

[forest beekeeper]

The 'law' may be on your side, however those are things for high-priced lawyers to argue in courtrooms while their clients sit in a cell.

To be 'law-abiding' includes not only avoiding things which are illegal, but also avoiding even the appearance of doing things which might be illegal.

I do know that having a firearm is legal. However if I were to strap-on a tactical holster and walk around Bangor with a pistol on my thigh, I would imagine that LEO would respond quickly.

While we like to think that we do not live in a Facist state that requires everyone to carry their documents, I would be asked to present to them my documents.

I would be required to prove to them who I am, and that I am not a 'felon' [which begs the question of why must a citizen prove anything to be allowed to walk the streets].

[melinuxfool]

Originally Posted by forest beekeeper

The 'law' may be on your side, however those are things for high-priced lawyers to argue in courtrooms while their clients sit in a cell.

To be 'law-abiding' includes not only avoiding things which are illegal, but also avoiding even the appearance of doing things which might be illegal.

I do know that having a firearm is legal. However if I were to strap-on a tactical holster and walk around Bangor with a pistol on my thigh, I would imagine that LEO would respond quickly.

While we like to think that we do not live in a Facist state that requires everyone to carry their documents, I would be asked to present to them my documents.

I would be required to prove to them who I am, and that I am not a 'felon' [which begs the question of why must a citizen prove anything to be allowed to walk the streets].

Unfortunately, I cannot argue with what you say, it is too true. I wonder what George Washington et al would think about this whole "papers please" idea we have going on today. Oh well, 'tis a topic for that other forum.

[Newdaawn]

Big article in the Bangor Daily News today on firearms. Maine is so firearm friendly that you may sell a gun at a private sale and no background check need be done of the buyer. Only dealers are required to do background checks. Kinda stupid IMO. Massachusetts law enforcement finds that about 18% of the guns used in homicides in that state have been purchased in Maine from private sales. Those are just the ones they are able to trace.

[forest beekeeper]

Originally Posted by Newdaawn

Big article in the Bangor Daily News today on firearms. Maine is so firearm friendly that you may sell a gun at a private sale and no background check need be done of the buyer.

This is nation wide.

... Only dealers are required to do background checks.

This is how it is done in all 50 states.

It was the issue in trying to outlaw gunshows a while back.