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Old 09-28-2016, 04:26 AM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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I had to Google "Cthulhu". Now I wish I had not. About a month ago I Googled Hentai. I wish I had not Googled that either. Google is not always your friend.
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Old 09-28-2016, 05:17 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Old 09-28-2016, 07:10 AM
 
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Ok.

Last edited by slyfox2; 09-28-2016 at 07:45 AM..
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Old 09-28-2016, 11:57 AM
 
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The biggest hassle with politicians like LePage(and those at the national level like him) is that while he may be a refreshing boldfaced straight talker on the campaign trail, the business of government is quite different.

And so making bold faced blunt statements that are flashy and showy may get you a win, when it comes to the boring everyday making the trains run on time of everyday government, they just can't do it. And so, because they never liked that aspect of their work, they are always causing excitement and conflagrations since they simply don't know how to govern.

You see this all the time in revolutions where the general takes over as the head of government. They were great at battle, but when they have to actually work with others they cannot. They expect everyone else to do exactly what they order, like when they were the General. And so, many revolutions that were started by generals to be democracies for the people turn into dictatorships.

In a trenched democracy like ours, it turns into gridlock. The opposition that the person in power needs so much to get things done---refuse to cooperate with the new dictator who won't work with them and tries to order them around. LePage was the General manager of a company that is on the edge of consumer operations. They buy big lots of lots of stuff, and have to keep looking for it. Go to Mardens and one day they have something and the next week they don't. Its probably exciting looking for new deals all the time.

But Mardens is not a department store like Walmart which has a stock of stuff. And so LePage never really had to learn how to work with regular suppliers on an everyday basis. And so, while he was great on the campaign trail, he has no idea how to make things work when other people have as much or more power than him.

I fear that this could be the same on the national level too.
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Old 10-01-2016, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Log "cabin" west of Bangor
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I'm betting that if I was "refreshing" when I talked to you one-to-one, you'd punch my lights out. Suppose I called you on the phone got your answering machine, and left you a message with all the obscenities in it like he did? I'm betting that you wouldn't say, "Oh I loved his call. It was so refreshing and honest".
I'd be less bothered than you might think. In my various jobs over the years I have been in contact with all levels of society, from street people and carnies to high-level business people and politicians, all levels of military, government and business. I can put on grungy clothes and eat at a soup kitchen, or a snazzy suit and silk tie and eat at the Ritz and in either case you'd think I belonged there. I can mix with rank-and-file Teamsters and hold my own at a corporate Board meeting. I can fit in with Hell's Angels or play a lawyer in court. I'm no stranger to either vulgarity/profanity or silver-tongued double-speak.

Frankly, I think there are times when some people *need* to be told flat out "You're an idiot, go [bleep] yourself."

I don't agree with everything everyone says, on a state or national level, or everything they do. But I think that we need to upset the status quo, to send the message that we are tired of 'business as usual' and we aren't going to take it anymore. We need to shake things up, and this way is better than throwing another civil war.

Sure, there's going to be some noses out of joint, hurt feelings and whatnot, but there are moderating influences in place that will limit the damage.

Someone on another part of this forum recently sent me a message full of hateful invective, I actually thought it was pretty funny and told him so. I doubt that was the response he was expecting and I suspect he was more than a little disappointed that I didn't respond in kind (I think his intent was to provoke me into responding in a way that would get me banned). If that's the way he feels, no problem, I'm a big boy, I can handle it.
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Old 10-01-2016, 09:19 AM
 
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Someone on another part of this forum recently sent me a message full of hateful invective, I actually thought it was pretty funny and told him so. I doubt that was the response he was expecting and I suspect he was more than a little disappointed that I didn't respond in kind (I think his intent was to provoke me into responding in a way that would get me banned). If that's the way he feels, no problem, I'm a big boy, I can handle it.
I always considered you to be a pretty smart guy. But with the above statement that has changed dramatically.










Now I consider you to be a freakin' GENIUS! Great to hear you say that!
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Old 10-01-2016, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Caribou, Me.
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Now and then I make phone calls to legislators from all over the state. On more than one occasion I have been screamed at by Dem politicians for civilly asking questions or giving an opinion......I have also had Dem lawmakers promise me confidentiality when discussing governmental issues, then turn around and try to destroy my career in a ruthless effort to silence people they don't agree with.
So I come at the LePage "controversies" with a bit of skepticism....
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Old 10-05-2016, 01:13 PM
 
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I had a chance a while back to meet the governor. It was totally by chance and had no clue who I was speaking to...he introduced himself as Paul...and never once dropped a hint who he actually was. Our chat was short, pleasant and quite entertaining. He was very "straight up" and spoke his mind. After I walked away, another guy said.."well how do you like our governor"...I was in shock...I thought the guy was a blue collar, possible dock worker.....I liked the guy .....!
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Old 10-05-2016, 02:24 PM
 
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Now and then I make phone calls to legislators from all over the state. On more than one occasion I have been screamed at by Dem politicians for civilly asking questions or giving an opinion......I have also had Dem lawmakers promise me confidentiality when discussing governmental issues, then turn around and try to destroy my career in a ruthless effort to silence people they don't agree with.
So I come at the LePage "controversies" with a bit of skepticism....
None of that has ever happened to me. My democratic rep actually visited my house to talk about my issues, and everyone one else in the district he is responsible. And i got a personal note from him.
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Old 10-11-2016, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Near a river
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Change 'Trump' to 'Hillary' and the 'He's to 'She's and it would still be correct.

I am not saying either one is better than the other.

We are faced with multiple evils, I can not tell which is the lesser evil. The only evil I would consider a greater evil would be Cthulhu.

I am career military, so obviously I am dead set against the Clintons. But Trump is a shock-jock like Howard Stern, that is no background for leadership.
Noam Chomsky: The Argument Against Voting Third Party in the Upcoming Election
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