Any chance BNAS to stay open?

[forest beekeeper]

Originally Posted by flycessna

Would you have to kill me Very interesting stuff!!

Perhaps I should not have said it in that manner.

I know very clearly what I can and can't say.

[forest beekeeper]

Originally Posted by Zymer

... Detecting underwater targets presents even more difficulty, ...

Pretty well sums it up.

... We studied Soviet tactics in-depth to learn how to best counter them.

Our Intell libraries are filled with up-to-date observations of each nations' tactics. However only the "Intell librarian" is likely to be the fellow who gets bored and reads through that voluminous material.

Any job title that has the word 'Librarian' in it, is not a job that any officer wants. So the job routinely gets handed to a senior enlistedman who has been passed over for advancement many times and is just waiting for retirement.

Ooops did I mention that one of my previous job titles for a couple years was "Ship's Intell Officer / Intell Librarian"?

[Northern Maine Land Man]

flycessna mentions:
"And the planes were pretty rugged."

The Mig 29 can land on a frozen lake and the crew can change an engine in less than 4 hours. The hoists plug into the airframe. We have nothing like that. The pilot will take off with the new engine with no calibration or testing necessary. All the engines are precalibrated.

Russians and Poles train in a PZL-104 Wilga. If a pilot noses over on soft ground they jack up the plane, change the wooden prop and take off. No need to check the engine. It's designed for a prop strike and the bottom 3 cylinders are designed for moderate ground impact.

Kiwi Aircraft Images: PZL-104 Wilga

In Russia you can get a master's degree in tank tread design.

[flycessna]

Originally Posted by Northern Maine Land Man

flycessna mentions:
"And the planes were pretty rugged."

The Mig 29 can land on a frozen lake and the crew can change an engine in less than 4 hours. The hoists plug into the airframe. We have nothing like that. The pilot will take off with the new engine with no calibration or testing necessary. All the engines are precalibrated.

Russians and Poles train in a PZL-104 Wilga. If a pilot noses over on soft ground they jack up the plane, change the wooden prop and take off. No need to check the engine. It's designed for a prop strike and the bottom 3 cylinders are designed for moderate ground impact.

Kiwi Aircraft Images: PZL-104 Wilga

In Russia you can get a master's degree in tank tread design.

Hey, They have two of those here in Auburn. I pretty much live under the downwind leg for 22, So i get to hear them fly over. They have such a unique sound. I've gone over to look at them. I thought I heard someone call them grass hoppers, Not sure about that though.

[Zymer]

Originally Posted by flycessna

Hey, They have two of those here in Auburn. I pretty much live under the downwind leg for 22, So i get to hear them fly over. They have such a unique sound. I've gone over to look at them. I thought I heard someone call them grass hoppers, Not sure about that though.

They look more like dragonflies, to me...that was the first thing that came to mind when I looked at the pics.

[flycessna]

Originally Posted by Zymer

They look more like dragonflies, to me...that was the first thing that came to mind when I looked at the pics.

Dragonflies---hhmmm, maybe thats what it was. I cannot remember...but they do look pretty cool.

[Northern Maine Land Man]

The 7 cylinder radial is a lot like the old Cessna 195 that was so popular on floats. One of the flying services in Greenville has several spare Jacobs engines. I like the sound of a 7 cylinder radial also. I used to fly the H-19 Sikorski helicopter. It had a 7 cylinder Wright engine.

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