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03-28-2009, 08:12 PM
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"status" from Dale Carnegie
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ok, I went back. Should have had a "set the drink down" warning...... 
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03-28-2009, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mollysmiles
darn.... obviously I've missed something good and need to flip back a page, or two.....
7th you were in Hawaii?? and gdude too?? darn, I need to get out more! 
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Well City Datawise I was in Hawaii  I dont think I would actually ever want to go there though.
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03-28-2009, 08:14 PM
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"status" from Dale Carnegie
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I'd love to visit, but have no desire to live there..... I need a little more snow than Hawaii offers! 
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03-28-2009, 08:22 PM
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I'd love to visit, but have no desire to live there..... I need a little more snow than Hawaii offers! 
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same here 
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03-28-2009, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by gdude
Well City Datawise I was in Hawaii  I dont think I would actually ever want to go there though.
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I have been there a number of times, it is okay. I would never spend the money to travel there myself.
To get onboard my last boat, I had to fly to Hawaii, and wait in a barracks for a week to meet the boat. I outranked the barracks manager, so he really had nothing for me to do. I phoned in each morning to muster and I was then free all day and night to do as I pleased. During that week I toured the island. It was neat.
After that, so long as I was stationed on that boat, we pulled in once a year, surfaced at the pier a few yards from the USS Arizona memorial, and would stay there for 18 hours or so, and then go back out to sea. Sometimes it would include a night of liberty.
The Polynesia Cultural Center is GREAT. Sponsored exclusively by the LDS church, a big outreach to all of the micro-Polynesian cultures. Young people from all those cultures enroll in the University of Hawaii or BYU, and they work in the PCC entertaining tourists.
Kind of like Disney World, where you have a dozen 'lands'. You go from Fiji land, to Samoa land, to Maori land, Tahiti, Marquesas, and Tonga.
It is really neat.
We have had friends who have been stationed on Hawaii. Generally they really don't like it. Very expensive and oppressing heat.
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03-28-2009, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by forest beekeeper
I have been there a number of times, it is okay. I would never spend the money to travel there myself.
To get onboard my last boat, I had to fly to Hawaii, and wait in a barracks for a week to meet the boat. I outranked the barracks manager, so he really had nothing for me to do. I phoned in each morning to muster and I was then free all day and night to do as I pleased. During that week I toured the island. It was neat.
After that, so long as I was stationed on that boat, we pulled in once a year, surfaced at the pier a few yards from the USS Arizona memorial, and would stay there for 18 hours or so, and then go back out to sea. Sometimes it would include a night of liberty.
The Polynesia Cultural Center is GREAT. Sponsored exclusively by the LDS church, a big outreach to all of the micro-Polynesian cultures. Young people from all those cultures enroll in the University of Hawaii or BYU, and they work in the PCC entertaining tourists.
Kind of like Disney World, where you have a dozen 'lands'. You go from Fiji land, to Samoa land, to Maori land, Tahiti, Marquesas, and Tonga.
It is really neat.
We have had friends who have been stationed on Hawaii. Generally they really don't like it. Very expensive and oppressing heat.
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that sounds like a cool trip! money isnt much of a problem for me but the oppressing heat is.
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03-28-2009, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by forest beekeeper
I can see where a great many of our citizens would not 'know' where meat comes from.
I have debated before with US servicemembers who very much against hunting. Who insisted that it was in-humane. That we have evolved beyond that.
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What part of population control do some people not understand? The whole purpose behind the hunting regulations, ie, when you can hunt, what you can hunt, and how much you can hunt is to help ensure that the population of any given species does not become so great that they begin to die off from starvation. A lot of people do a lot of research to figure out how to keep it all as close to a balance as possible, and part of that process is hunting and fishing. Bambi's cute, but would you prefer he starve to death slowly for lack of food rather than allow people to hunt and make use of the meat they take? I don't hunt, but most of the people in my family do, and they all have a tremendous respect for the environment. They are out there walking the woods and streams and seeing first hand the condition those areas are in, and understand more than the animal rights activists about what's really going on with Mother Earth.
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03-29-2009, 06:39 AM
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Besides the population control part is the "having meat over winter" part. Up here there are quite a few folks that depend on hunting season to keep the family fed during the year. The IGAs and such can get quite expensive and people need the protien in their diet. Steak is good but Bambi is better IMHO.
With the growing world and US population we are continually encroaching on Mother Nature and driving the animal (not just cute little, fine tasting bambi) into the cities and towns. That's going to be a growing problem real soon if not right now. Cougars and bears in California, etc. But instead of using hunting people will spend $50-60,000 on a marksman to cull like they did in Princeton NJ.
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03-29-2009, 09:16 PM
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Being "impartial" is not necessarily a bad thing.
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Originally Posted by Casper1212
What part of population control do some people not understand? The whole purpose behind the hunting regulations, ie, when you can hunt, what you can hunt, and how much you can hunt is to help ensure that the population of any given species does not become so great that they begin to die off from starvation. A lot of people do a lot of research to figure out how to keep it all as close to a balance as possible, and part of that process is hunting and fishing. Bambi's cute, but would you prefer he starve to death slowly for lack of food rather than allow people to hunt and make use of the meat they take? I don't hunt, but most of the people in my family do, and they all have a tremendous respect for the environment. They are out there walking the woods and streams and seeing first hand the condition those areas are in, and understand more than the animal rights activists about what's really going on with Mother Earth.
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Yes, sadly, Walt Disney did little to enlighten the young masses that nature has a balance.  Case in point is the commercial with the princess frolicking around the forest admonishing me about the fact that only I can prevent forest fires. It says nothing about fires being part of the natural culling of deadwood...  Okay, I'm done....   Okay, so I'm not done, while I'm on the subject of cartoon commercials, is it me, or is that the way it seems to be going (animation) with commercials these days?
Last edited by reloop; 03-29-2009 at 09:20 PM..
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03-29-2009, 09:29 PM
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It's easier and cheaper to do everything digitally than to hire actors, find locations, set up crews, get permits, the list goes on.
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