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Old 05-14-2012, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Hagerstown
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When did Section 8 renters from DC and Baltimore start fleeing west? I never heard about this before this year, and I've read it posted on this board a whole bunch lately. Just curious.
I don't know for sure, but I'd say over the last ten/fifteen years or so they have been trickling west, and in the last two or three years it has exploded. Some of the people I work with have nothing but some clothing, a cell phone, and a few pieces of furniture. I feel bad for them. It has to be a real culture shock to go from PG county/DC to rural MD.
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Old 05-15-2012, 10:32 AM
 
Location: North Baltimore ----> Seattle
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I don't know for sure, but I'd say over the last ten/fifteen years or so they have been trickling west, and in the last two or three years it has exploded. Some of the people I work with have nothing but some clothing, a cell phone, and a few pieces of furniture. I feel bad for them. It has to be a real culture shock to go from PG county/DC to rural MD.
Interesting. So do you think folks are moving to where the wait list for housing is shorter? I guess if you have no prospects or desire for social advancement it really doesn't matter where you live.
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Old 05-15-2012, 01:29 PM
 
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The oversatuation of new and renovated luxury housing options certainly created a lot of opportunities for section 8ers, renters and buyers. Not sure the govt can create a guideline that certain features are too nice for section 8 renters.

The more homes that reach foreclosure, the harder and harder it gets for all classes of people to get loans, and income coming from whatever direction prevents that.

I'm not a fan of Section 8 as a whole because I think there is way more abuse of the system than comeback stories, but we all have the ability to go to the southwest and Florida and buy a really nice house for practically nothing right now.
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Old 05-15-2012, 04:54 PM
 
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Yall need to stop being so judgmental and worry about your ownselves. You dont know me you dont know my situation. MInd your business.
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Old 05-15-2012, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Cumberland
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Yall need to stop being so judgmental and worry about your ownselves. You dont know me you dont know my situation. MInd your business.
Don't move with Section 8 money to my town, and you won't be part of my business.
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Old 05-15-2012, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Hagerstown
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Interesting. So do you think folks are moving to where the wait list for housing is shorter? I guess if you have no prospects or desire for social advancement it really doesn't matter where you live.
I think the problem out here, and I am purely speculating, is that the builders went crazy during the hay day boom and built a ton of units. Many were bought by people trying to flip them or rent them out...and these owners are more often than not from outside the area with no interest in health of the community. Many also went unsold. Once they stopped selling, or stopped renting, they took on section 8 as a steady source of rent. I'm telling you, brand new neighborhoods where people spent a lot of money on houses during the boom have become section 8 housing and they are now a mess. This is happening all over the country as well....I know a lot of places in the south that overbuilt are seeing it too. What sucks is the "thug life" mentality that has been brought here with this population. I have friends in Southern MD that say they are having the same issues.

Again, I understand the concept now of section 8, and am all for help those who try to make themselves better. There are a lot of hard luck cases out there and I'm glad those good neighbors have found housing. Unfortunately, those good neighbors seem to be fewer and far between anymore.
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Old 05-18-2012, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Sneads Ferry, NC
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I wish the article in the WSJ had something about whether the tenants kept up the houses. I will not vote in the poll where I have no personal knowledge.
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Old 05-18-2012, 07:16 PM
 
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I work with the public, and while I don't know the ins and outs of section 8, I see what it does to neighborhoods with no HOA and it isn't pretty. I have no problem helping those who are trying their best and truly need it. But section 8 renters (and their landlords) should be held to some kind of standard to protect the property values in the rest of the neighborhood. Not every renter is bad, I know, but driving through neighborhoods of nice brick townhomes to see furniture rotting away in the back yard, grass that isn't mowed, cigarette butts all over the place.....is frustrating to those who have an incentive to take care of their property. What's equally frustrating is the number of section 8 renters from the city (Balto/DC area) who end up in places like Frederick and Washington Counties and tax the resources of those communities who are already struggling to meet the needs of "their own".
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Old 05-21-2012, 09:48 AM
 
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I'm not a fan of Section 8 as a whole because I think there is way more abuse of the system than comeback stories
and this is the biggest misconception of section 8.. the amount of poeple the program helps vastly outwieghs the poeple who abuse the system..its not even close!

section 8 vouchers are given out with a max value set determined by income and amount of dependents. The lady in the article can move into a 5 bedroom "mini-mansion" because she has 7 kids. a mother of two would not be approved for that.

i dont understand the animosity against the section 8 recipients being allowed to choose homes with new and luxury features. as long as it falls under the regulated rent parameters why care if that person has crown molding and granite countertops (landlords expense, not your tax dollars)..would it make u feel better about your life if u knew all section 8 renters had faulty pipes and no HVAC.
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Old 05-22-2012, 07:57 AM
 
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section 8 vouchers are given out with a max value set determined by income and amount of dependents. The lady in the article can move into a 5 bedroom "mini-mansion" because she has 7 kids. a mother of two would not be approved for that.
But see, that's the problem. Most of us "choose" (yes we actually still have a choice in this country - but let's not get into that) to have 7 kids or 2 kids. My company doesn't pay me more money because I "choose" to have 7 kids (no one has to have kids - 1, 2 or 7 - we have adoption in this country for those who can't manage their bodies and wish to preserve life). It's insane. Why should anyone get more money because of their own personal "Choice". Yes we all make mistakes. But after 2+ mistakes, think of someone other than yourself and GET FIXED (I did!)

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i dont understand the animosity against the section 8 recipients being allowed to choose homes with new and luxury features. as long as it falls under the regulated rent parameters why care if that person has crown molding and granite countertops (landlords expense, not your tax dollars)..would it make u feel better about your life if u knew all section 8 renters had faulty pipes and no HVAC.
Because it IS my tax dollars. The landlords only put these things in because they know they have guarenteed money from ME (via the government). If the landlord rents to us working folk, he doesn't put these things in because we might have a bad week/month, and be late on our payment, etc. Only because he's guarenteed the money would they risk that expense.

And you know what...there are plenty of hard working individuals working 2 jobs that have faulty pipes and HVAC. Just think if everyone in this country making minimum wage decided to "give up" and go Section 8 on us. IT'S SUPPOSE TO BE A SAFETY NET - NOT A WAY OF LIFE.
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