MVA for illegals built w/ your tax $$$

[mrswoogie]

Originally Posted by rubytue

Wow, I just moved to Maryland from Virginia. I tried to get a MD license and the would *not* take my VA license, nor my MILITARY ID. I had to bring a passport to prove I was a citizen. Seriously, the MVA would not take a military id! I tried, then had to turn around, go home (to my house of boxes) to find my passport.

Sean Hannity is not the end all be all of facts. Why don't you read what the Maryland MVA itself requires for proof of residency.

As to the article you posted, You seem to be taking "facts" from an obvious inflammatory opinion piece almost three years old.

Here you go SFB, I did some reasearch for you since you are at all odds on how to go about it, Is this new enough for you July 28 2007??? Read it and weep we are now going to educate them with college degrees, but we are working on a bill that will PROHIBIT them from getting anymore licenses. get it prohibit them that means they are handing them out. I rest my case you fool.
In Maryland, lawmakers revisiting immigration -- baltimoresun.com

[Bagira]

nobodys a fool lol I just stated what we had to do....birth cert. or passport us of course and other state dr. license and at least 2 verifiable bills/lease,etc.

So what your sayin is I and my wife could have received a dr. lic. w/p this nope wasn't gonna happen they almost turned us away it not good enough thats why we brought like 4 things!

So how does one say an illegal get one w/o a birth cert. or passport?

[ReefAreCoolToo]

Mrwoogie..

read all you want. I totally agreed with the other poster stating that MVA needs proof of citizenship or legal status residency now. Believe me or not, they ran a homeland security background check on me because my NC license is faded and kinda destroyed. I am a not citizen but I am legal immigrant here. They MVA needs me to show them my legal status before issuing MD license to me.

MD is trying to complied with the Real ID act.
REAL ID Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[rubytue]

Originally Posted by mrswoogie

Here you go SFB, I did some reasearch for you since you are at all odds on how to go about it, Is this new enough for you July 28 2007??? Read it and weep we are now going to educate them with college degrees, but we are working on a bill that will PROHIBIT them from getting anymore licenses. get it prohibit them that means they are handing them out. I rest my case you fool.
In Maryland, lawmakers revisiting immigration -- baltimoresun.com

I am not a fool. I reported my personal story on June 8, 2007. My military ID was turned down as a proof of ID for a Maryland license and I was forced to leave the MVA and find my passport.

[mrswoogie]

Originally Posted by rubytue

I am not a fool. I reported my personal story on June 8, 2007. My military ID was turned down as a proof of ID for a Maryland license and I was forced to leave the MVA and find my passport.

OK You are not a fool, you just don't understand. I agree with you, anyone will get a hard time at the MD MVA if you are a legal citizen, people get real disgusted easy and tempers flare, because they make you jump thru their hoop and then take your money as well. Proof of address, proof of utility bills, proof of birth, proof of this and that, its a pain to have to go and wait all day to be told you need something else to show them. I've been there done that quite a few times. It is the illegal aliens who will have it easier with the new MVA being built for them with a half a million of MD taxpayers money, which in reality, is what this thread is about in the first place.

[sundaze]

I really had intended to ignore this thread, but.... There is no special MVA being built for illegal immigrants in Maryland. Think about it, a half million dollars, about $500,000, is the price of a house, not of an mva office. The OP has posted threads with opinions but nothing describing any building being constructed. As to the article posted from the Washington Post, it was about the difficulties that immigrants face in getting licenses, nothing about the immigrants being illegal. People born in other countries, here LEGALLY, can have trouble establishing their birth date because of birth certificates in other languages that the MVA cannot read.
As to whether illegals ought to have driver's licenses -- I think the purpose of licensing drivers is to make sure they can operate a motor vehicle and to make sure they know the laws. If a person didn't care enough about the laws of this country to enter legally I don't imagine he would care about driving without a license either.
I think the place to start in dealing with illegal immigrants here is with the employers who hire them. People wouldn't want to come here illegally if they couldn't get work.
Finally, I think all of us should have some compassion. People who have nothing in their homelands are desperate to feed their families. That doesn't mean America can open wide it's doors and let everyone in, it doesn't mean illegal immigration isn't a problem or that it is ok, just take a moment to look at the world through someone else's eyes. I think we should care about people suffering from poverty, oppression, and lack of medical care. And, we should recognize that as long as people are in that condition they will try to find a way out of it. That's why we need to focus on employers to really stop illegal immigration.

[Tom Lennox 70]

Sundaze, I don't know about the MVA....but Montgomery County wants to build a day labor center for illegal immigrants in Gaithersbrug, this is in the Washington Post so it cannot be false. It's also been in the local papers.

[Rikrich]

Originally Posted by Terrapin2212

I'm sick of illegal immigrant scum, having to deal with these people and seeing them in my country and on my street every day. They do NOT have a right to live in OUR country. They should get the f___ off of our land. This is not their country and never will be.

I hear you, but don't count on any form of assistance from Governor Martin O'Malley regarding this issue. According to friends of mine who live in the Baltimore metro area, alot of folks are POed at O'Malley just six months after he succeeded Ehrlich.

[Rikrich]

Originally Posted by Moth

Let's just state the obvious already! No matter where you stand on the issue, illegal immigration has been Decriminalized in all but name.

Like smoking dope in Amsterdam. Its not quite illegal, but not fully legal either. Mostly, its tolerated, ignored and relegated to the nooks and crannies of the societal landscape.

It should not be tolerated, nor should it be ignored. Unless things change, we are through as a nation.