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Old 12-19-2012, 06:33 AM
 
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I know that, but as you willingly admit, the 95 corridor still gives people a northern feel. So how can you consider the whole state southern when 80% of that state lives in an area with a "northern feel"?
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:44 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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I know that, but as you willingly admit, the 95 corridor still gives people a northern feel. So how can you consider the whole state southern when 80% of that state lives in an area with a "northern feel"?
The 80% is somewhat of an exaggeration. Likely between 50%-60% depending on what you consider the corridor, I don't feel like looking right now. Prince George's and Montgomery together would be around 35%, add Baltimore County and City would be another 10% or so.
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:42 PM
 
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Well even 51% is still the majority...

I got the 80% from adding PG/MoCo to the Baltimore Metro Area (Balt. City, Balt. County, Anne Arundel, Carroll, Howard, Harford, Queen Anne's). I can take off some of those and do a new calculation.

From wikipedia:
State of Maryland: 5,828,289

Montgomery County: 971,777
PG County: 871,233
Baltimore City: 619,493
Baltimore County: 805,029
Howard County: 287,085
Anne Arundel County: 537,656
Total of those 6 counties/cities: 4,092,273 = 70.2% of the state.

Yes, there some rural/southern-ish areas in some of those counties, but one could argue there are also northern-ish areas in parts of Harford County (pop. 244,826), Carroll County (pop. 167,134) and Charles County (pop. 146,551) so I don't think the 70% is that far off.

Taking off Anne Arundel and Howard using your definition would be 3,267,532 or 56%, basically what you estimated.
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:06 PM
 
Location: PROUD Son of the South in Maryland
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I know that, but as you willingly admit, the 95 corridor still gives people a northern feel. So how can you consider the whole state southern when 80% of that state lives in an area with a "northern feel"?
Yeah. Think of Cary, NC or Fairfax, VA both are within the boundaries of a southern state but lack most if not all Southern traits. 80% is a bit of an exageration and even then a good portion are native Marylanders. Its only a small physical portion of the state that has the feel anyways and despite being northern feeling it still is within the region I refer to as the south or dixie.

Besides I dont know a single state that doesnt have cross cultural areas here and there.
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:37 PM
 
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Yes, but again, my point was that in Maryland it is the majority. Even all of NoVA is only about 1/3 of the population of the state. And sure there are a lot of transplants in parts of other states, but it is not the majority. Throw in the fact that Maryland shares a border with Pennsylvania, much of it is just as far north as parts of New Jersey, and it's going to be tough to convince many people that the entire state of Maryland should be considered southern (although yes, there are southern areas).
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Old 12-20-2012, 04:06 AM
 
Location: Greenville, NC
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I'm going to ask this question on my Facebook page. Most of my friends are still in Maryland. Anne Arundel County to be precise.
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Old 12-20-2012, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Greenville, NC
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Oh yeah... This turned out well....

To my friends that live in Maryland... Do you consider yourself to be a Southerner or a Northerner? One or the other please.

Gary : Mason Dixon Line = Southerner

Richard Martin Okay, we got one response. Thanks Gary. How about some more?

Russell : i have alway said maryland should b a southern state


David : Hillbilly blood here!

Eva : Good question Richard. There are a lot of people here FROM the South. Geographically what do "they" catagorize Maryland as? I've always thought of Maryland as a in between state, both Northern and Southern. I'd say it's more of a Northern state.

(Notice here how Eva changed the question)

Russell : the mason dixon line..w.va & va 2 the south of us & pennselvania & delaware 2 the north of us so we r in between

Richard Martin So we have 3 south and 1 north. Keep 'em coming. Try to limit this to either south or north.

Eva : So Russ do you think we are Northern or Southern?

Russell : i would say southern

Eva : What the hell do I know right...lol

Jerry : I won't play the divisiveness game that the world wants.

Laura : Southern, of course.

Bill : Having been born and raised in the Midwest, I know what I am - an Easterner

Daryl : Neither.

I've known all of these people for at least 30 years with the exception of Bill. We've been to weddings together, funerals, parties and I even went to school with one of them. We all grew up in the same place. But the responses are as varied on Facebook and they are here at Citydata.
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Old 12-20-2012, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Cumberland
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Over a 1000 posts later, and we are right back where we started!
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Old 12-21-2012, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Maryland isn't a southern state. I don't understand why some of you trying so hard to transform it to become southern? The state is influenced by northern culture not southern culture. Every state has a fair share of accents, rural areas, and rednecks. Maryland is more mid-atlantic than southern in my opinion.
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Old 12-21-2012, 07:02 AM
 
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Over a 1000 posts later, and we are right back where we started!
Which is why IMO it's probably safe to say that it's neither.

Along those lines, Richard Martin I think you skewed your results by making people choose either North or South. As you saw some people still said neither, but some of the ones that did choose one of the other may have chose neither as well if given the option.
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