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Old 11-25-2014, 04:50 AM
 
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The Southern influence is DEFINITELY in the White population. Listen to the vowels of White Baltimoreans and tell me those are Northern.
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Old 11-25-2014, 05:26 AM
 
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Maryland is not anymore a Southern state except for the Eastern Shore southern section

The divide of North-South is Virginia excluding Arlington, Alexandria, Rosslyn, Vienna, Fairfax, Franconia-Springfield, Chantily, Leesburg, Great Falls, Falls Church
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Old 11-25-2014, 08:36 AM
 
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These guys won't get it it's pointless and the Whites in this state do not have a southern accent these people have never been to the south or they are extremely young and have no life experience.
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Old 11-25-2014, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Oxford, CT
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These guys won't get it it's pointless and the Whites in this state do not have a southern accent these people have never been to the south or they are extremely young and have no life experience.
Yeah okay, I've lived in the following states and multiple areas of each state.

Connecticut
New York
Maryland
Virginia
North Carolina
Florida

Could almost say I lived in SC being that I was less than a mile away from the border at one point but whatever. Your assumptions are off.
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Old 11-25-2014, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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These guys won't get it it's pointless and the Whites in this state do not have a southern accent these people have never been to the south or they are extremely young and have no life experience.
Whites at one time did have a southern accent. Did you not read the quote I posted?

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Indeed, during the 1950s much of old “Southern Baltimore,” which included large parts of Bolton Hill and Roland Park, held on to its culture of choice. “When I moved to Bolton Hill from Cincinnati in 1951, there was a thick Southern accent here,” says Shivers, the 80-year-old local historian, who still lives there.
Baltimore doesn't feel as southern as it used to. But the claims that its southerness has been completely stamped out to the point it's now a carbon copy of Philadelphia are ridiculous. As westside boy stated upthread, Baltimore had a "double dose" of southerness in its native White population as well as hundreds of thousands of migrants from southern Appalachia. The latter migration still has a strong influence in Baltimore today.
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Old 11-25-2014, 02:31 PM
 
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Whites at one time did have a southern accent. Did you not read the quote I posted?



Baltimore doesn't feel as southern as it used to. But the claims that its southerness has been completely stamped out to the point it's now a carbon copy of Philadelphia are ridiculous. As westside boy stated upthread, Baltimore had a "double dose" of southerness in its native White population as well as hundreds of thousands of migrants from southern Appalachia. The latter migration still has a strong influence in Baltimore today.
Whites these days in Baltimore can have Southern accents but they're diluted, but this isn't a uniquely Baltimore trait, you see it in MANY parts of the South where people's accents are becoming "general american".

HOWEVER, even in the Northeast, the accents are dying off and people are again sounding "general american". Go to Manhattan and see how often you hear the traditional NYC accent, ESPECIALLY in the young people. I've met old Baltimoreans who DO speak with Southern accents and even young Baltimoreans who do. However, just like in NYC, Boston, Chicago, and other parts of the North, young people's accents are not as strong and don't have much of a regional flavor.

Indeed, as the Southern accent is dying in Baltimore, regional accents are on their way out. I am a Millennial Chicagoan and my accent is strong but it isn't the strongest like the accent of baby boomers. It doesn't make me less Midwestern or Chicagoan, it just means that what is happening in Chicago is happening across the nation as the Information Age has made it so that we are less isolated.
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Old 11-25-2014, 02:33 PM
 
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West Virginia and Virginia at the latitudes of most of Maryland aren't Southern. West Virginia extends further north than Pennsylvania's southernmost border so is Pennsylvania Southern?
OK, so let's take WV, VA, and MD out of the South then.
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Old 11-25-2014, 02:40 PM
 
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OK, so let's take WV, VA, and MD out of the South then.
A lot of people have already taken Virginia out of the South.

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As best I can tell, the indisputable South consists of four states--South Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi and Georgia. It even seems that Georgia is getting sketchy--Atlanta has always skewed things.
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/...e-south/72266/

You're also starting to get some historical revisionism with North Carolina.

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NC and VA (nowadays at least) have far more in common with states north to new england than they do states south toward the gulf. South Carolina is 100% a southern state. North Carolina never was historically, and certainly is not today.
Capital Weather Gang - What is the mid-Atlantic?

This is how it begins. 60 years from now, when all of the major cities from Boston to Miami (minus SC) are governed by a coalition of young, liberal "northern" White people and racial minorities, there won't be any "South" left. There will be articles in the Richmond Times-Dispatch discussing the time when Richmond used to be a southern city.
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Old 11-25-2014, 02:51 PM
 
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A lot of people have already taken Virginia out of the South.



The Indisputable South - The Atlantic

You're also starting to get some historical revisionism with North Carolina.



Capital Weather Gang - What is the mid-Atlantic?

This is how it begins. 60 years from now, when all of the major cities from Boston to Miami (minus SC) are governed by a coalition of young, liberal "northern" White people and racial minorities, there won't be any "South" left. There will be articles in the Richmond Times-Dispatch discussing the time when Richmond used to be a southern city.
Which is why I made that thread about how the South can eventually disappear. But MD South deniers feel that theirs is the only state subject to scrutiny this way and that the South otherwise has been left untouched.
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Old 11-25-2014, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Oxford, CT
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Which is why I made that thread about how the South can eventually disappear. But MD South deniers feel that theirs is the only state subject to scrutiny this way and that the South otherwise has been left untouched.
Kinda reminds me of the people that would like to boot out Connecticut from New England for not being "New England" enough.
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