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Old 11-29-2014, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Old 11-29-2014, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Where is the map for the percentage of respondents who say "their community is in the South." That figure for Maryland was 40%, which was significantly higher than any Midwestern or Southwestern state. This is the classic case of "cherrypicking": choosing one data point from a study that you find flattering but then hiding a data point from the same study that's not so flattering.
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Old 11-29-2014, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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It looks remarkably similar to this one:

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Old 11-29-2014, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Prince George's County, Maryland
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It looks remarkably similar to this one:
Colorado and the Southwest states.....? Never mind some of the Midwestern and Mid-Atlantic states, but I'm trying to figure out the Southwest, Colorado, and Kansas lol. Texas and to some extent Oklahoma I can understand though. Some of those respondents are pretty funny....And I wonder if that survey took into account any Southern transplants living outside of the South.

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Old 11-30-2014, 12:01 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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Colorado and the Southwest states.....? Never mind some of the Midwestern and Mid-Atlantic states, but I'm trying to figure out the Southwest, Colorado, and Kansas lol. Texas and to some extent Oklahoma I can understand though.
FWIW Colorado had only 1% of the vote (it is in the article where the map is located). Which states are in the south?

Remember though that Kansas was a "border state" in the truest sense of the word, and many argue that the Civil War began over "Bloody Kansas". Kansas was split between pro-slavery and anti-slavery factions who battled it out for control over the state in a much more significant way than anything that ever occurred in MD or DE and especially Oh, Il, and IN.
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Old 11-30-2014, 12:27 AM
 
Location: Prince George's County, Maryland
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FWIW Colorado had only 1% of the vote (it is in the article where the map is located). Which states are in the south?

Remember though that Kansas was a "border state" in the truest sense of the word, and many argue that the Civil War began over "Bloody Kansas". Kansas was split between pro-slavery and anti-slavery factions who battled it out for control over the state in a much more significant way than anything that ever occurred in MD or DE and especially Oh, Il, and IN.
Oh I gotcha. I forgot about Kansas' role in the Civil War, Missouri was the same way also.
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Old 11-30-2014, 01:32 PM
 
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Where is the map for the percentage of respondents who say "their community is in the South." That figure for Maryland was 40%, which was significantly higher than any Midwestern or Southwestern state. This is the classic case of "cherrypicking": choosing one data point from a study that you find flattering but then hiding a data point from the same study that's not so flattering.
Kind of like what you do. 40 percent is still the minority.
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Old 11-30-2014, 01:36 PM
 
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Regardless of how many consider West Virginia no southern the fact is that demographically politically culturally and linguistically the lower two thirds of the state leans Southern. The entire state of Oklahoma is Southern for the same reasons as is the vast majority of Texas.
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Old 11-30-2014, 03:52 PM
 
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Where is the map for the percentage of respondents who say "their community is in the South." That figure for Maryland was 40%, which was significantly higher than any Midwestern or Southwestern state. This is the classic case of "cherrypicking": choosing one data point from a study that you find flattering but then hiding a data point from the same study that's not so flattering.
What I find confusing is that people who didn't consider themselves Southerners still had a 40% chance of admitting that at least they lived in the South.
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Old 11-30-2014, 04:31 PM
 
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What I find confusing is that people who didn't consider themselves Southerners still had a 40% chance of admitting that at least they lived in the South.
Unbelievable. You really are a troll. Saw both your posts. I was referring to Italian Americans not Italians. Baltimore has a population of 19.98 percent Italian American. No Southern city has percentages that high. So no you don't win any argument. You try and bend linguistics politics culture even industry to make it Southern but you just can't. If Baltimore is Southern then so is Chicago because I believe it's Italian American percentage isn't much higher than Baltimore. Baltimore is the lower Northeast in terms of speech patterns, backed by the University of Pennsylvania's dialect map, industry, architecture, politics, etc. you haven't proved me wrong on anything but go ahead and think you have. So long troll.
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