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Old 02-08-2011, 09:13 AM
 
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Either way I would be proud to be a Yankee...don't we all know that people from the north aka a Yankee are the only Americans who can truely claim not to have ever lost a war??? BAM!!!
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Old 02-08-2011, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Cumberland
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Vietnam?
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Old 02-10-2011, 01:20 PM
 
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First the US never declared war on Vietnam, we were there as "advisors" which led to unecessary loss of lives. Vietnam is not considered a war for this reason, just like we went into Haiti, Panama, Iraq, Somolia and Bosnia...we did not declare war on these counties. Also we pulled our troops out of the Vietnam War which was being fought between north and south vietnam...we didn't lose it. Big difference, pick up a history book

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Old 02-10-2011, 02:38 PM
 
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To say that the Vietnam conflict was not a war is fantastically pedantic. The USA had about 500,000 troops there, aircraft carriers, patrol boats, B-52s doing saturation bombing, helicopter gunships, napalm, agent orange, artillery, flame throwers, and just about everything else in the arsenal except nuclear weapons. There were massive numbers of American casualties, and even more massive numbers of casualties inflicted on the Viet Cong, South Vietnamese troops, North Vietnamese regular troops, and civilians in both North and South. Prisoners of war were taken by all sides, and summary executions frequently happened. If this doesn't qualify as a war, then the definition of war is screwy. The Vietnam conflict is indeed "considered" to be a war by any useful definition applied by any reasonable person.
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Old 02-10-2011, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Greenville, NC
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Vietnam is not considered a war for this reason, just like we went into Haiti, Panama, Iraq, Somolia and Bosnia...we did not declare war on these counties. Also we pulled our troops out of the Vietnam War which was being fought between north and south vietnam...we didn't lose it. Big difference, pick up a history book
There are very, very few people that don't believe we lost the Vietnam war. Declared or not, it meets almost every definition of a war. The only exclusion is that it was not declared but that is not required to be a war.

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war noun, often attributive \ˈwȯr\
Definition of WAR
1a (1) : a state of usually open and declared armed hostile conflict between states or nations (2) : a period of such armed conflict (3) : state of war b : the art or science of warfare c (1) obsolete : weapons and equipment for war (2) archaic : soldiers armed and equipped for war
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Old 02-10-2011, 04:08 PM
 
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I can literally see on the Weather Channel where the non-geographically specific forecasts starts, but my local information begins then I see the regional forecast with the four PA cities. It also shows a "Getaway Forecast" for Niagara Falls, NY, the Delaware Water Gap, PA, and Atlantic City, NJ. Once again, someone at the Weather Channel assumes that all Western Marylanders go on weekend excursions to the North, and not South to Virginia Beach, the Outer Banks, or the Cumberland Gap. Curious.
Which DirecTV local forecast you see should be based on your zip code, so I don't know why they'd give a Marylander the PA forecast. Seems like they should give you a DC/Baltimore one. I'd be curious as to exactly where the line between different "local on the 8s" lies- I imagine you're just barely on the Pennsylvania side of it.

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Hagerstown has its own NBC affiliate WHAG, but I do not receive it from DirecTV.
I believe the issue is that DirecTV can't get a good signal from WHAG at wherever they have the antenna to receive the DC and Baltimore stations (probably somewhere between DC and Baltimore). Because of this, they are not required to carry WHAG unless WHAG can transmit the signal to them some other way (fiber, etc.) at WHAG's expense.

Interestingly, Verizon FIOS customers anywhere in the DC market (including the Virginia suburbs) do get WHAG, so Verizon must get their signals from a different place than DirecTV.

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My satellite subscription may be the reason for getting Pennsylvania info on the Weather Channel but Washington D.C. network affiliates. I am always curious as to why we received only D.C. affiliates on DirecTV and none from Baltimore even though D.C. and Baltimore are equidistant from Washington County.
The reason you get DC only is that Washington County has been assigned to the Washington, DC Designated Market Area (DMA). DirecTV has the option of giving you channels from other markets (e.g. Baltimore) that are "significantly viewed" by other people in your county, but is under no requirement to.

Now, as to how Washington County got lumped in with DC instead of Baltimore, that's a good question. These things should be based on historical viewing patterns as well as commuting patterns, which would appear to favor DC.

My guess is that, back when antennas were the only way to get TV, more people had antennas pointed at DC than Baltimore. DC had more VHF stations (4) than Baltimore (3), and if you look at the terrain between Washington County and DC, it is slightly flatter than the terrain between Washington County and Baltimore, which may have made DC reception easier. From personal experience, I know it's easier to get the DC radio stations in Washington County than the Baltimore ones.
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Old 02-10-2011, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Cumberland
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First the US never declared war on Vietnam, we were there as "advisors" which led to unecessary loss of lives. Vietnam is not considered a war for this reason, just like we went into Haiti, Panama, Iraq, Somolia and Bosnia...we did not declare war on these counties. Also we pulled our troops out of the Vietnam War which was being fought between north and south vietnam...we didn't lose it. Big difference, pick up a history book
Actually, I have a BA in History and pick up lots of history books just for fun. I would add more to this conversation, but Hamish and Richard Martin said it as well I as could have. Thanks guys for picking up my slack.
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Old 02-11-2011, 11:31 PM
 
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I agree. I am originally from MD. Miss those crab cakes! I live in the Raleigh, NC area and most people don't seem to consider MD a southern state. It is below the Mason-Dixon line and is considered a southern state, but not so much in NC.
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Old 02-12-2011, 11:54 PM
 
Location: Durham, NC
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I agree. I am originally from MD. Miss those crab cakes! I live in the Raleigh, NC area and most people don't seem to consider MD a southern state. It is below the Mason-Dixon line and is considered a southern state, but not so much in NC.
Same here. I live in Cary. I'd say that about 99% of people in NC don't think of MD as a southern state. I don't see why it's such a big deal anyway. And yeah I miss crab cakes too. The Edgewater Restaurant makes the best.
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Old 02-13-2011, 06:33 AM
 
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But aren't like 50% of the people in Cary from states farther north than Maryland?
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