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Old 05-19-2012, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Edgemere, Maryland
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Thank you for your last sentence though. So if Baltimore, the largest city in Maryland, is Mid-Atlantic, how can the whole state be considered southern?
The state's not, the state is presently Mid-Atlantic when considering population concentration and cultural identity. I'm debating this also in another thread. Clearly TODAY the state is Mid-Atlantic. Historically Southern. That said - Southern Maryland and the lower Eastern Shore are still Southern. There's not much to debate there. Baltimore as a whole, the DC suburbs, Northern/ Western Maryland, all seem to lean more Northern or at least Rust Belt, generic suburbia, and Appalachian respectively.
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Edgemere, Maryland
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The weather in either Charlotte or Raleigh is very similar to parts of Maryland. Especially in the winter. Both areas are well known for being right on the dividing line for winter storms with both areas getting ice storms pretty regularly.

Here's a temperature graph right from CityData's own pages for Salisbury.



Here's Charlotte



And finally, here's Raleigh.



They look pretty similar to me.

This is true, and only goes to re-inforce common knowledge that the Lower Eastern Shore and Southern Maryland are still Southern, both geographically speaking and culturally. They both retain Southern climate, flora and fauna, along with history and present day culture. I will give the other poster the benefit of the doubt and say that I can see both cases being made for Baltimore. It depends enormously on which part of Baltimore you are talking about. When taking the region, Towson could be a city in Connecticut, whereas it's not so hard to see some Southern traits (culturally and climate) in the Eastern suburbs (Dundalk, Edgemere, Essex, Middle River, Bowleys Quarters [named after Daniel Bowley's slave quarters in the area]).
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Old 05-19-2012, 11:51 AM
 
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I have and I think many others agreed with the fact that most of the Eastern Shore can be considered Southern. And that is one of the few areas that has a Southernish climate. But I thought many were still debating that ALL of Maryland can still be considered Southern.
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Old 05-19-2012, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Edgemere, Maryland
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I have and I think many others agreed with the fact that most of the Eastern Shore can be considered Southern. And that is one of the few areas that has a Southernish climate. But I thought many were still debating that ALL of Maryland can still be considered Southern.
Who is? I'm not sure what planet someone would have to live on to consider Montgomery County or Towson, Timonium, Reisterstown, Catonsville, etc, etc. Southern...
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Old 05-19-2012, 01:20 PM
 
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andrew_s for one...
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Old 05-19-2012, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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Western Maryland is more like Eastern PA and Eastern Maryland is more like Western NC, so once again it looks like we're moving into the grey area here.
Ehh.. I'm not so sure I follow you with this one. Compared to Western Maryland, places like Gettysburg and Philly are an absolute sauna in the summer. We also get significantly colder and more precipitous winters.

Similarly, I don't see how Western NC, with its four seasons, can compare to the Eastern Shore which barely ever gets any snow.
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Old 05-19-2012, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Edgemere, Maryland
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Ehh.. I'm not so sure I follow you with this one. Compared to Western Maryland, places like Gettysburg and Philly are an absolute sauna in the summer. We also get significantly colder and more precipitous winters.

Similarly, I don't see how Western NC, with its four seasons, can compare to the Eastern Shore which barely ever gets any snow.
Yeah... I'd have to agree with you. Western MD is more like Western PA and the Eastern Shore is more like coastal NC.
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:16 PM
 
Location: PG County, MD
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Ehh.. I'm not so sure I follow you with this one. Compared to Western Maryland, places like Gettysburg and Philly are an absolute sauna in the summer. We also get significantly colder and more precipitous winters.

Similarly, I don't see how Western NC, with its four seasons, can compare to the Eastern Shore which barely ever gets any snow.
Yeah, I don't even follow myself there. I was probably using a climate map and got mixed up or something.
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Old 05-20-2012, 09:37 PM
 
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As a Pennsylvanian, I've never considered Maryland "Southern"... and I never will.
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Old 05-20-2012, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Edgemere, Maryland
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As a Pennsylvanian, I've never considered Maryland "Southern"... and I never will.
That would be fair for the state as a whole, I'd say, but, If you've ever been to the lower Eastern Shore or Southern Maryland and think they are Northern... I'm not sure on which planet that conclusion could be reached.
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