Do people in Maryland consider themselves North, Southern, or in Between? (Bethesda: buses, cabin)

[MD_IS_NORTH]

Originally Posted by kjg1963

I can't figure out why there is all this debate. If you live in Maryland (and were born and raised here) then I think we as individuals get to decide if we want to be southern or if we want to be northern. Because of our geographic location, its more a mindset not a circumstance of location. We are in the middle geographically, and if I want to be southern, I'll be southern. If I want to be northern, then I'll be northern. Accents have nothing to do with it. Sweet tea does not make us who we are. By the way, I grew up 3 miles outside of DC and drank iced tea with lots of suger. We just didn't call it sweet tea.

This does not make sense,thats like being black telling someone you deserve to consider yourself white,i mean you can consider yourself asian all you want,however the reality is its not true.

Maryland similarities to the south are greatly outweighed by the similarities to its northern brothers and sisters,from politics,attitude,religion is huge in the south,it is not in MD as it is in the south.Even the way many areas in the south operate during funeral is totally different from the north.In MD they never bring the casket up to the family members to say goodbyes,they never placed there hats behind there backs and stand and show respect,some of them fools want to run you over and try to curse you out,being aware your in a funeral home,you literally have to curse them out for them to get the big picture before a police officer approaches.That is city,city,city.The weather is similar to NYC,the same snowstorms hit all cities within the northeastern corridor.You are part of the northeastern corridor,MD IS NORTH,CONSIDERED NORTH BY MOST,will always be considered north because even historically its credibility as a southern state was never concrete.

[mom2boys37]

Originally Posted by vanyali

As if no Southern "gentleman" ever takes a Trophy wife. Please. There are more BMW's and trophy wives in my very Southern neighborhood than I ever saw in New York. Someone around here actually drives around a Silver Seraph Rolls Royce. I've seen it at least three times now. I used to think it was a Bentley, but then I looked it up, and it's a frigging Rolls Royce. And someone else has a gold Jaguar. Gold! Ran over my neighbor's cat with it, right in front of her kids. Didn't even apologize. He lives down the street. I'd say of the couples I've seen around here, probably half are made up of an old rich guy and a young thin woman always dressed in jogging clothes and a pony tail. Usually very blond. I'm in North Carolina.

I had a front porch ("stoop") in New York, and everyone sat out and chatted with the neighbors as they walked by. Here, even the few people who have porches don't sit on them, and even if they did, they're not going to chat with YOU or anyone else passing by, because they're too far away from the sidewalk for that to be practical.

New York brownstones are waaaaay prettier than 99% of anything you'll find in the South outside of some touristy or rotting ghetto downtown area in some old city in the middle of nowhere with nothing going on other than tourism and shipping (Charleston, Savannah).

And by the way, sweet tea in an abomination.

Sweet Tea and Bojangles..nothing better

[MD_IS_NORTH]

Originally Posted by Terrapin2212

I really REALLY agree with you on this one. I'm a 23 year old Asian American male who moved to Maryland from Louisiana at age 7. I don't have a southern accent but I do say "ya'll". On AIM with friends I would say things like "ain't" and "reckon" but I don't have a southern accent though I wish I had one. To me, a southern or "country" is part of the mix that makes me feel more American (this is important to me as someone born to immigrant parents). This mix also includes voting Republican, going to church, listening to country music and being a NASCAR. Bascially the South epitomizes the Real America. I think that if I can be at home in a CMT video, there's no question about assimilation anymore.

But I am very southern in my mindset and perhaps tastes. I was raised with the right values. I am a conservative Republican who believes in moral values (I am pro-life and support abstinence education, against gay marriage), a strong military. I am a patriot who respects the U.S. military and the men and women who serve.

I proudly display the American flag from my window and the Support Our Troops sticker behind my car. WHen I graduate from pharmacy or dental school and can buy my own car (my mom helped pay partially for my car now) I want it to be a FOrd or Chevy pickup truck that I can drive to football tailgates and barbecues. I listen to country music all the time. Its about the only genre I listen to.

I am down to Earth and do not like snotty, arrogant people like the people from the north. One day I also want to own a powerboat to take to lakes with friends and my ideal wife is a small-town girl from the south or the midwest. I really want to learn how to hunt and I support the second amendment unlike a lot of "northern" Marylanders. The fact that Hillary Clinton is a northeast liberal alone is a legitimate reason for me to not vote for her. I refuse to vote for Barack because he's liberal.

And to this day, I refuse to listen to the Dixie Chicks. I know where I stand. If you dont' agree with me, that's too damn bad.

Snotty,arrogant people exist everywere,sure in the north attitudes are alot more barbaric,hostile,rude.That is due to the enviroments and these cities (DC/BMORE/PHILLY/NYC)energies being fast,these cities operate faster.However lets not generalize,some of the most ruthless snotty arrogance a-holes are in the south and we have a name for them

REDNECKS!

When we northerners say redneck,we mean racist southern white male.

[MD_IS_NORTH]

Originally Posted by kjg1963

Sweet tea does not make us who we are. By the way, I grew up 3 miles outside of DC and drank iced tea with lots of suger. We just didn't call it sweet tea.

JUST THE MERE FACT THAT YOU SAID THIS,TELLS ME YOU'SE CITY!!!!!!!! LOL


You cannot compare traditional sweet southern tea which usually sits in the sun to that crap they serve you at DANNYS FAST FOOD place in MD lolol.lol

[MD_IS_NORTH]

The major Mid-Atlantic cities display differences in speech that have their roots in the original settlement of the colonies. These differences have often radiated out from the original points of settlement and colored the speech of surrounding areas.
The most important common characteristic is the complex distribution of two forms of short a: the lax a in bat, and the tense a in bad, which sounds very much like the ai in air . Some dialects lax all short a's, others tense all short a 's (See Buffalo below). But in the coastal Mid-Atlantic areas of New York City, New Jersey, Philadelphia, and Baltimore, both types of short a exist, with complex rules governing which words are tense and which are lax. These rules do, however, differ from city to city: ash, for example, is lax in Philadelphia but tense in New York. Also common to the metropolitan areas of the Northeast is the pronunciation of soft th as d : dis (this), dem (them), etc.

The urban dialects also have grammatical peculiarities. One of these is the use of a distinct pronoun for the second person plural, the equivalent of the Southern y'all. In New York City, New Jersey, Philadelphia and Baltimore, the form is youse, a simple pluralization of you . This form is also heard in more rural areas in Southeastern Pennsylvania, and may have originated there. In Pittsburgh, the form is y'uns , a contraction for you ones. On the Delmarva peninsula, the second person plural is mongst-ye, a relic.

[DC's Finest]

All of these posters that are trying to prove that Maryland is southern should stop it. Are you serious? Can you honestly walk out of the subway in downtown Bethesda and say "Gee this is the south"? Even NOVA is not considered the south anymore. Let kill this whole accent thing right now. Have any of you ever been to the southside of Chicago? AA's in Chicago have a distinctive accent with a southern twist. They say "my antie" for aunt; What you "wont" for want; I'm "fitina go." I can go on and on. But they are definitely not southern. The culture of Maryland is definitely Mid Atlantic/Northeast. Google the Northeast corridor and come back and tell me what you find. Maryland is also a very progressive, liberal leaning blue state, just like PA, NY, CT, RI, and MA. What states in the south are blue? VA? NC? SC? GA? FL? TX? MS? LA? The answer is none of the above! Accents and food don't define a state. The people do. The characteristics of TODAY'S MARYLAND are more in line with the Northeast than the South.

[tenken627]

I'm sorry MD_IS_NORTH, you might make good points, but I can't really read it because everything you type is in bold and capital letters.

Can you please type in regular font and take your finger away from the cap locks?

[kjg1963]

Originally Posted by MD_IS_NORTH

JUST THE MERE FACT THAT YOU SAID THIS,TELLS ME YOU'SE CITY!!!!!!!! LOL


You cannot compare traditional sweet southern tea which usually sits in the sun to that crap they serve you at DANNYS FAST FOOD place in MD lolol.lol

I never said I was north or south because, to be honest, I don't care one way or the other. If Maryland could be easily compartimentalized into north or south, we wouldn't have this thread, now would we? If the question is being asked if we are north or south, don't you think that means that there is an issue and it is not clear even to native Marylanders. I was just trying to say some people in Maryland prefer to identify as Southern and some prefer Northern. You don't need to bite our heads off because we don't see your opinion as the gospel truth.

Nope, never had Dannys tea (don't even know where a Danny's is). Home brewed, in a glass jar, in the sun, in the backyard. My mother used to make it. I didn't compare crappy fast food tea to anything. I'm glad you made the ASSUMPTION that you knew where I got my tea so you could call me out on it.

[MD_IS_NORTH]

Originally Posted by kjg1963

I never said I was north or south because, to be honest, I don't care one way or the other. If Maryland could be easily compartimentalized into north or south, we wouldn't have this thread, now would we? If the question is being asked if we are north or south, don't you think that means that there is an issue and it is not clear even to native Marylanders. I was just trying to say some people in Maryland prefer to identify as Southern and some prefer Northern. You don't need to bite our heads off because we don't see your opinion as the gospel truth.

Nope, never had Dannys tea (don't even know where a Danny's is). Home brewed, in a glass jar, in the sun, in the backyard. My mother used to make it. I didn't compare crappy fast food tea to anything. I'm glad you made the ASSUMPTION that you knew where I got my tea so you could call me out on it.

HUh?? Maybe you havent been calculating the post but the average poster here,even the ones from other areas have said the state is northern or mid atlantic,followed by those who said it could be either toward those who stated southern(minority).This is a small porportion of evidence that the average person usually considers Maryland north based on the following messages i and a few others posted before which are part of social norms in our society today.How often do you see a thread that questions Mds geographical location? Not often at all,i myself have done the search many times,that is because the mindset is usually based on it being north,you have many residents who are extremely ignorant to what a mason-dixon line is,yet because of Marylands position on the map,they consider it North or inbetween.This thread is simply a debate between some realist,some with stereotypical mentalities and the native Marylanders who have ties to the south,whether it be roots,family or the influence that was brought along with its migration from southern areas.These individuals are trying to keep up with the traditional conservative mindset based off the Mason-dixon which never had credibility.Furthermore the culture as DC'S FINEST stated is much more northeastern than southeastern.These debates are not to common nationwide because people usually see it as northern

As for the sweet tea comment,pardon my assumption,however the reality is southern sweet traditional lemon tea is not common throughout the Northeastern corridor cities,unless in southern family owned restaurants such as Sylvias in Harlem,Nyc.

[MD_IS_NORTH]

Originally Posted by tenken627

I'm sorry MD_IS_NORTH, you might make good points, but I can't really read it because everything you type is in bold and capital letters.

Can you please type in regular font and take your finger away from the cap locks?

Sorry,i see this is becoming an issue,will try to remember to leave the bold letters off.