Do people in Maryland consider themselves North, Southern, or in Between? (Baltimore: rent, job market)

[mom2boys37]

Originally Posted by UAbear

Maryland is southern. This is from a Historical view during the civil war. The sates in red were a part of the confederacy. The states that are striped were southern but were forced to be with the Union. Maryland fought for both.

Now this is a modern view of the south. The striped states are southern border states. The ones in red are considered south. The ones in black are consistently known as being the south, or the deep south or, Dixie. Notice how Virginia AND Maryland are BOTH southern states. Just because Maryland is on the border does not mean it is Northern. Now some would exclude Texas and Oklahoma from the southeast but this pretty much sums it up on the south.

here is another map showing the regions of the united states. See how Maryland is in the South Atlantic region, not what well-informed Virginians would call "The Northern Corridor" That is silly crap, and Virginia just wants to be rude and exclude Maryland from the south, even though they are well entitled to it. What ever happened to southern hospitality? Virginia.

Here is another map, for some reason Louisania is not included. And yet again Maryland is included

Here is yet another map of the south with Maryland still included

anyway to finish up, I was born in Georgia and lived there until I was 13, then I moved to Alabama because of my father's work, after that I lived in Louisiania until I was 18. I moved to Maryland after college and I noticed after living here for 8 years that it really does have the culture of any other southern state. I've been to Virginia. It is exactly like Maryland. There is very little difference.

Northern Virginia and Maryland are identical, but get into like Danville and such and you will see a whole diffn't Virginia.

[UAbear]

Nickluva are you from Virginia, because its seems as if you are trying to demote Maryland to bring up the status of Virginia. Now would you want me to critize about how Virginia is in the north because, I've lived way further south than you, and you can't make the argument that Virginia is more southern than Alabama, or Louisania, or Georgia.

[UAbear]

Locals from North Carolina would think differently about southern Virginia, as do Virginians do to Marylanders. Local Carolinians would not consider Virginia the same as the North Carolina. Nor would people from Tennessee. They want to have there own identity. Maryland can still be in the south and have its own identity, as with Virginia. It doesn't have to be one or the other. I'm not saying, "If a state wants to be southern then its southern." No you need to have some kinda argument behide it, or else why would there be this huge debate about if Maryland is southern or not. For all you who are against the idea, open up and think about it. You don't see states like Ohio or Wisconsin trying to say they are southern. No they are used to that they are a part of the Mid-West. So stop rejecting Maryland as if it is some school-boy with no friends and just accept that Maryland is a southern state.

[mom2boys37]

Originally Posted by UAbear

I would think locals from North Carolina would think differently about southern Virginia, as do Virginians do to Marylanders. Local Carolinians would not consider Virginia the same as the North Carolina. Nor would people from Tennessee. They want to have there own identity. Maryland can still be in the south and have its own identity, as with Virginia. It doesn't have to be one or the other. I'm not saying, "If a state wants to be southern then its southern." No you need to have some kinda argument behide it, or else why would there be this huge debate about if Maryland is southern or not. For all you who are against the idea, open up and think about it. You don't see states like Ohio or Wisconsin trying to say they are southern. No they are used to that they are a part of the Mid-West. So stop rejecting Maryland as if it is some school-boy with no friends and just accept that Maryland is a southern state.

NEVER!!!!!! and i have NEVER thought of it that way and i have been here all my life, not a transplant, born and raised unfortunately. and my brother used to live in Danville and trust me people from TN didn't have any qualms w/ people from that part of VA

[nickluva]

Originally Posted by UAbear

Maryland is southern. This is from a Historical view during the civil war. The sates in red were a part of the confederacy. The states that are striped were southern but were forced to be with the Union. Maryland fought for both.


Now this is a modern view of the south. The striped states are southern border states. The ones in red are considered south. The ones in black are consistently known as being the south, or the deep south or, Dixie. Notice how Virginia AND Maryland are BOTH southern states. Just because Maryland is on the border does not mean it is Northern. Now some would exclude Texas and Oklahoma from the southeast but this pretty much sums it up on the south.


here is another map showing the regions of the united states. See how Maryland is in the South Atlantic region, not what well-informed Virginians would call "The Northern Corridor" That is silly crap, and Virginia just wants to be rude and exclude Maryland from the south, even though they are well entitled to it. What ever happened to southern hospitality? Virginia.


Here is another map, for some reason Louisania is not included. And yet again Maryland is included

Here is yet another map of the south with Maryland still included

anyway to finish up, I was born in Georgia and lived there until I was 13, then I moved to Alabama because of my father's work, after that I lived in Louisiania until I was 18. I moved to Maryland after college and I noticed after living here for 8 years that it really does have the culture of any other southern state. I've been to Virginia. It is exactly like Maryland. There is very little difference.

I had an earlier post on here you would fit in the category of People who try so hard to be southern when Maryland isn't really southern. Why try so hard?? Maryland is mixed but for most part it's northern but it has it's southern parts and Virginia is not exactly like Maryland but it has alot in common with it

[UAbear]

OK nickluva prove that Maryland northern. You can't use NYC cause that is a melting pot of all cultures, Chinese, Indian, Virginian, Marylander, what ever you want NYC has it, so you can't run to NYC this time. As for Marylanders trying to be southern, they don't try it how they were raised up. You look at them like fools, but look at yourself, putting in as much effort to shut Maryland out. Do I see a flash of northern rudeness? And about Virginia, explain how it's south and all it's twang. Remember i lived in the deep south and we would consider you THE SAME as Maryland. Go ahead and boast all you want about how you have it and Maryland doesn't, but I warn you, all your confidence is going to your head. You have to remember the facts. Virginia is not and will not be a part of the solid south. Everyone says southern Virginia is alot different than Maryland, guess what it's not. As for transportation, there are no major routes from the Northeast to Virginia. Wanna know why, cause Virginia ain't advanced enough to make a major city. Maryland has 2 big cities, DC and B'MORE. Virginia has Richmond? Louisania has New Orleans, Georgia has Atlanta, Tennessee has Memphis, and Nashville. How come Virginia can't develope a large city? Now both as with every state in our great nation, they have their rural ways of living, along with their dialect. So Virginia does not overcome Maryland in that sense. Yes as unfortunate as it is Maryland is Liberal. I myself is a conservative. As for weather BOTH Maryland and Virginia and even Kentucky, Tennessee, or North Carolina get snowfall. Remember that blizzard back in around (I can't remember exactly) but between 01-03, Maryland had a all-time record that year of like 28 inches. Guess what same with Virginia. Ain't that a shocker. As for Agriculture what does southern Virginia has that Maryland doesn't? Tell you what I'll hold off the rest until you respond

[Maxchus]

I guess my view of it will have to be that it's in-between everywhere in this part of the country, not just the north and south. It's the also nexus of all realities in the east and east coast of the U.S.! Semi-seriously.

[Katiana]

Cotton is grown in every region of america so that is false

This is in fact untrue. Here is a quote from the Wikipedia article about cotton:

Successful cultivation of cotton requires a long frost-free period, plenty of sunshine, and a moderate rainfall, usually from 600 to 1200mm (24 to 48 inches).

The area of the United States known as the South Plains is the largest contiguous cotton-growing region in the world.

The South Plains is a region in West Texas comprising the area north of the Caprock Escarpment on the Llano Estacado, and extending north into the Texas Panhandle, centered at Lubbock. While prominent in the area of petroleum production, the South Plains is mainly an agricultural region, producing a great percentage of the nation's cotton and possessing numerous large cattle ranches.

[DITC]

Maryland is the south, although its very developed in the DC and Baltimore suburbs. The south really starts below Trenton and I-195 in New Jersey. There is a huge split along this line in everything (more so than the Mason-Dixon), from accents to pace of life to styles of dress. There is a rodeo in South Jersey and I have met NJ natives who fly the confederate flag. MD, PA, DE, and Southern NJ natives are very similar people, hence the Mid-Atlantic grouping.

New England and NY metro, however, are totally different areas.

[Northeast_Corridor]

Originally Posted by UAbear

OK nickluva prove that Maryland northern. You can't use NYC cause that is a melting pot of all cultures, Chinese, Indian, Virginian, Marylander, what ever you want NYC has it, so you can't run to NYC this time. As for Marylanders trying to be southern, they don't try it how they were raised up. You look at them like fools, but look at yourself, putting in as much effort to shut Maryland out. Do I see a flash of northern rudeness? And about Virginia, explain how it's south and all it's twang. Remember i lived in the deep south and we would consider you THE SAME as Maryland. Go ahead and boast all you want about how you have it and Maryland doesn't, but I warn you, all your confidence is going to your head. You have to remember the facts. Virginia is not and will not be a part of the solid south. Everyone says southern Virginia is alot different than Maryland, guess what it's not. As for transportation, there are no major routes from the Northeast to Virginia. Wanna know why, cause Virginia ain't advanced enough to make a major city. Maryland has 2 big cities, DC and B'MORE. Virginia has Richmond? Louisania has New Orleans, Georgia has Atlanta, Tennessee has Memphis, and Nashville. How come Virginia can't develope a large city? Now both as with every state in our great nation, they have their rural ways of living, along with their dialect. So Virginia does not overcome Maryland in that sense. Yes as unfortunate as it is Maryland is Liberal. I myself is a conservative. As for weather BOTH Maryland and Virginia and even Kentucky, Tennessee, or North Carolina get snowfall. Remember that blizzard back in around (I can't remember exactly) but between 01-03, Maryland had a all-time record that year of like 28 inches. Guess what same with Virginia. Ain't that a shocker. As for Agriculture what does southern Virginia has that Maryland doesn't? Tell you what I'll hold off the rest until you respond

OK nickluva prove that Maryland northern. You can't use NYC cause that is a melting pot of all cultures, Chinese, Indian, Virginian, Marylander, what ever you want NYC has it, so you can't run to NYC this time. As for Marylanders trying to be southern, they don't try it how they were raised up

Are you serious?? Marylanders raised as southern?? That is false,Md is a politically liberal state,that is not religious struck whatsoever,were the weather is identical of that of its northeastern cities above it,.No Marylander was raised southern living in Maryland.The maps you posted are in correlation with the Mason Dixon Line.The Mason Dixon is a line has major contradiction toward it,today the Northeastern Corridor places Maryland as northern.Transportation routes group Maryland as north,who recognizes Maryland as the south,but the wannabe southerners there who pride the Mason Dixon?? No one.Even in urban culture the references to Dc/Md are northern.

And about Virginia, explain how it's south and all it's twang. Remember i lived in the deep south and we would consider you THE SAME as Maryland

No they would not.This is false by a longshot,Southern Virginians consider Maryland northern and are notorious for grouping it with Pennysylvania and South Jersey,the dialects are far different from most of Maryland and Southern Virginia and audios to prove this were posted.

You have to remember the facts. Virginia is not and will not be a part of the solid south. Everyone says southern Virginia is alot different than Maryland, guess what it's not. As for transportation, there are no major routes from the Northeast to Virginia. Wanna know why, cause Virginia ain't advanced enough to make a major city

Yes it is,by a longshot.With the exception of extreme southern Maryland,the rest of the state is far different,politically,weather wise,mentality wise,religion is common in the south.Religion is not strict in Maryland.People in most of the state have northern dialects,the southern influences are due to migration.Please refrain from making it seem you know what you speak of because you do not and i have a plethora of links,facts,references that you could never discredit.As for the weather,the Blizzard of 96 was a nor'easter that traveled up the northeast and pounded Maryland on northward with far more snow than those southern areas you mentioned.Also with that the annual average snowfall is much lower than areas within the Northeastern Corridor.Those southern states do not receive normal snowfall like Maryland on up has potential too.They are notorious for ice storms in the south.Marylands temperature and climate is remotely similar to New York City with temperatures being the same or just a few degrees apart with the same humidity levels that are not nearly as extreme in the summer as it is in the southern states you mentioned.You spewed alot of false information in attempt to group Maryland as southern.The whole culture among its location and what it is considered today by the masses is Northeastern/Mid-Atlantic.As for Agriculture oh man,must you go there??