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[ebo202]

Kalkalasch, you said a mouthful. I admit you have some really good points, but Fairfaxian makes a good one too... Not all black people are thugged-out punk a$$es. Betcha' $100 bucks those black people hate the thugged-out idiots just as much as the rest of the world.

Oh real quick... I'd like to clarify that thugged-out punk-a$$es come in all shapes and colors, and they are ALL completely useless jack$$es, put on this earth to suck up unemployment, welfare, sell drugs, buy rims, get their $100,000 car repo'ed from their Section 8 apartment, then breed fatherless bastard children that will grow up into more thugs. That's the true G-Code. Sad because these idiots simply don't understand that rap videos don't actually portray real life!

[kalkalasch]

What in the world? Rap videos aren't real life? What is it then? What do I make of the fish-eye lens and the endless flickering of images depicting luxury items and scantly clad women? Mind you, people watch that **** with open mouths and intense attention.

Anyways, I think a good point was made: it's really this ghetto glorifying prison culture we're talking about and criticizing. It's a pity that this same culture somehow is made into 'all black people' culture, cause it isn't. Not every black person is a homie, thank God. The hood influence is deep though. Even those who are semi-poor or well off are eager to present themselves as part of the struggle against 'da man' and give into that nonsense. Example: I was looking at the MySpace pages of the homies that broke into Mr. Sean Taylor's home. These clowns have two pages of pcitrues each that depict them fanning themselves with money while flipping the bird in the back yard or drive way of a nice looking middle class home. Other pictures feature them inside of that very home, with a thermostat, a plant and an orderly household to be seen in the background. My point: they are not from the hood yet they wish they were thanks to the brainwashing provided by Black Entertainment, 50 cent, Pimp-C, Young Joc, Jay Z and the rest of those worthless poop stains who call themselves artists.

Given, being a bad ass was always cool, when did it become fashionable to contribute to a collective ostracizing of your racial group from polite society?

We should all, not just whiny moms, but all unite against this garbage because its ruining our generation.

[kalkalasch]

Originally Posted by liliblu

As a Alumni of UMD, College Park who happens to be Black, I am offended by your post. What statistics do you have that show that most of the Black students on campus are athletes?

When you ask why athletes are given scholarships which athletes are you referring to. Basketball Players? Football players? lacrosse players? Cheerleaders? Baseball players? Field Hockey players? Golf or Softball players?
Basketball and Football make the school money. The least the schools can do is cover tuition, room, and board for the athletes that play the game. Think of the money that is raised selling tickets, hats, jerseys, and t-shirts. Let's not forget broadcasting rights and corporations paying to put the company name on a sports arena. Does Comcast Center ring a bell?

Basketball and Football players earn colleges more money than the school spends on their education. The money brought in from these two sports often finances activities,programs, and scholarships for other students. If being "good looking" brought the school more money that would probably give them scholarships too.

I'd love to back my estimate with a hard statistic, yet such don't exist. The basketball and football teams are obviously 90% black, this can bee seen via their web page. Just take a walk around campus and tell me how many black kids you see wearing the Under Armour backpacks with the number on them.

Race isn't the point here. The point here is the unfair creation of this privilege based on athletic ability, which at their level, is all talent and God-given. Giving you a scholarship based on something you're born with is unfair because your talents are obviously aren't chosen. So the bottom like is that student athletes shouldn't be given free tuition just because of an arbitrary talent the school can exploit for funding. Maybe if they valued academics over sports they'd have less expenses, meaning no need for such perverse manipulation towards profitability. This is a public institution. I don't understand why there are such strong corporate ties here. I also don't understand why there is a competition among public school to recruit students. The United States is the only country that has such a ridiculous, business like model of public higher learning..

Nobody's getting a scholarship for having certain color hair, a trait just as randomly chosen by nature as your athletic ability in any sport.

[lscalder]

Murders,thugs,killers,drive by shooting have been around for centuries. Rap music made national attention in the early 90's. In these Black and white Western Movies you will see white cowboys riding on horses killing the Indians which was the invention of what it is now riding in cars doing a drive by. Murders have been a round for centuries so have thugs remember watching those old western cowboy movies. I only saw White murders and thugs killing people now we have a whole new generations of all races on Tv doing what the Westerns did. I do not believe that rap music started this whole gangster lifestyle. I think it started from the Cowboys,Italian mob then the blacks wanted a peice of the pie so blacks go into it. Money is the source of the problem. I also think these movies which stars out favorite movie stars such as Al Pacino,Julia roberts who played a postitue and made it look cool to be a postitute. I hate that movie just because it glorifies postitution. Danny Devito,Tom cruise, Jack Nicholson,Marlon Brando rest in Peace. The all did either gangster Movies or movies wher it shoes them killing people,committing a crime,robbing banks,committing suicide and these young people want to be just like them so they either shoot up the entire mall,kill their families or friends or commit suicide. I do listen to rap music but not all some are violent but the ones that are violent do not get BET's air time but still young folks buy the album which is known as Underground which I do hate and have never purchase. I do not purchase violent movies or violent music regardless of the color of the actor or artist. the top selling rap album of 2007 was Kanye West which I do like because he is very positive and his rap music have a meaning my favorite is Jesus walks. He raps about Jesus which was one of his biggest rap songs and video. I think alot of the other rappers are catching on because some no longer raps and say the N word. I do hate rap songs such as "I'm so Hood" or "I pop Bottles" . America loves fame, little children ages 7 and up are walking around in tiny clothes because they want to show off their bellies. Children look up to Britneyy Spears,Paris Hilton,Lindsey,Nicky Hilton and others who do not wear under wears, sleep with every guy in Hollywood, act stupid and dumb like that is so cool and party every single night as if thats what life is about then they walk around naked in these tiny clothes looking like walking sticks.Its not only rap music, its the entire HollyWood. I think America needs better role models regardless of color or sex.

[liliblu]

Originally Posted by kalkalasch

I'd love to back my estimate with a hard statistic, yet such don't exist. The basketball and football teams are obviously 90% black, this can bee seen via their web page. Just take a walk around campus and tell me how many black kids you see wearing the Under Armour backpacks with the number on them.

Race isn't the point here. The point here is the unfair creation of this privilege based on athletic ability, which at their level, is all talent and God-given. Giving you a scholarship based on something you're born with is unfair because your talents are obviously aren't chosen. So the bottom like is that student athletes shouldn't be given free tuition just because of an arbitrary talent the school can exploit for funding. Maybe if they valued academics over sports they'd have less expenses, meaning no need for such perverse manipulation towards profitability. This is a public institution. I don't understand why there are such strong corporate ties here. I also don't understand why there is a competition among public school to recruit students. The United States is the only country that has such a ridiculous, business like model of public higher learning..

Nobody's getting a scholarship for having certain color hair, a trait just as randomly chosen by nature as your athletic ability in any sport.

I am really getting sick of you. You have a narrow minded view of the world and refuse to see past your own prejudice. You did not read a word I wrote. I did a little research and found out a few things about the make up of Maryland's campus.

Student Enrollment Demographics
How many students enroll at University of Maryland: College Park?

Men Women Total
Non Resident Alien 1,873 1,324 3,197
Black Non-Hispanic 1,566 2,198 3,764
Hispanic 778 898 1,676
Asian / Pacific Islander 2,099 1,977 4,076
American Indian /Alaskan Native 44 60 104
White Non-Hispanic 10,223 9,376 19,599
Race Unknown 1,270 1,247 2,517
Total 17,853 17,080 34,933

Are you saying that all 3,197 black students are athletes?

[liliblu]

Let's also deal with this problem you have with athletic scholarships. As I mentioned in a previous post Football and Basketball are $$money$$ makers for colleges. In 1996 the ACC schools (nine at the time) each received $4.5 million. That money came from television rights, money collected as the basketball teams advanced in the NCAA tournament, and from football bowl games. $25 million came from basketball alone. The rest came from product sales and football. In 2002 Maryland and the rest of the ACC schools received $9.7 million from basketball and football. If red heads made a school $9.7 million in a given year, they would receive scholarships as well.

Click this link to see how college athletics helps the entire student body.

"ACC schools can pull resources, programs" : News-Record.com : Greensboro, North Carolina (broken link)
Sports: The Cincinnati Post (broken link)

Finally, just because a person is born with a ability to play a certain sport, does not mean they will excel at it. Playing at the college level requires hard work and discipline. Sports can unite a school. The student body may come different walks of life but you can all rally around your team. Academics are just a part of the college experience. It should also be a time of personal growth.

[ebo202]

Never thought I'd say it, but that was a good post Iscalder.

I do however, agree with Kalkalash about the rap thing. No, not all rap is bad. A lot of it is really GREAT stuff. Unfortunately, what WE listen to and what the impressionable kids listen to is worlds apart. When WPGC or WKYS plays "I was gettin some head, I was gettin some head" and You see a 13 year old girl mouthing the words at the bus stop, there's something seriously wrong here. The same thing happens with these fake punk thugs, growing up in comfortable suburbia but look up to clowns who promote thug lifestyle.

[fishfister]

Originally Posted by kalkalasch

The way things are looking now, with the 'African-American heritage month' and 'Kwanzaa' and other such none sense events that make us look in the other direction from the way things are, situation's only getting worse. What exactly is the African American heritage? Slavery? Why can't we admit it? Too painful?

The black heritage IS slavery and Kwanzaa is a moronic holiday. Once this is fully acknowledged in public, we're half a step in the right direction. The next step would be ostracizing rap music and its respective 'artists'. The third step would be instituting army like discipline in majority black public schools that allows for the turnaround of this entire mess created in the last 30 years. Blacks didn't always live this way. We lived in tight communities and wore nice clothes, valued education and did not mandatorily have a cousin in prison.

Wow, a breath of realism!
I respect your POV totally young man. You mentioned you were from the south and with that comes a different set of values/morals than what pervades in the north. I was talking to the brother of one of my neighbors and he told me that I had to be less sensitive to what I was concerning race. He is from Atlanta and removed from the constant PC browbeating that goes on here in the DC metro area. I thanked him for being real, unlike the air that we breathe day to day here.
That said, I echo your comments concerning African-America heritage month and Kwanzaa. It used to be Black history month(isn't it still?). I don't use the term African American because it doesn't make sense unless one is directly from a country such as Kenya or Zaire and once one becomes American that is your nationality.
I am referred to as white. I have far more heritage than that and I am 3rd generation in this country on my father's side and 2nd on my mother's. Those nationalities aren't allowed when describing me because I am simply white. If black history month recalls slavery, why honor it?
I don't really like the capitalistic holiday that is now Christmas and don't do most of it any longer. I see Kwanzaa as being yet another consumer driven holiday directed at blacks to buy special Kwanzaa items.
Why?

[truthhurts]

Ok I’ll chime in here as I too agree with a lot of what is said, but also disagree with a lot of the blatant gross generalities thrown around.

First, blacks are not a monolithic group of people as the media and militant blacks would like you to believe. In fact there are plenty of blacks that enjoy skiing, republican party, snowboarding, skating, indie rock, pop, and all kinds of other thing, that the white liberal media in connection with the black militants have deemed not black enough.

The whole black power movement of the 1970's was one of the most dangerous destructive forces to wreck havoc on the black community. The fall of the black community started shortly before 1965 and was exacerbated by "illegal drug cartels," relaxed government laws on criminals, more social welfare, and a decline in the black nuclear family.

Anyway, as far as athletes are concerned again anyone that says all athletes on a college campus are black is a total fool. The only majority black sport on a few college campuses is Basketball and even when you look at all of the 110 teams that Play Div 1 basketball whites would still be the majority of players. Most Div-1 football teams are predominately white. Now obviously most of the top athletes on these teams are predominately black.

Think about this there are more than 15+ different collegiate sports teams on most Div-1 campuses and U of M is no different.

Basketball
Football
Lax
Golf
W-Lax
M-Soccer
W-Soccer
W-Basketball
M-Hockey
W-Hockey
M-Crew
W-Crew
M- Rowing
W- Rowing
W-Field Hockey
W- Volleyball
M-W Track and Field
M- Baseball
W-Softball
M- Tennis
W- Tennis
M- Swimming
W- Swimming

We are talking more than 500 or so athletes that receive scholarships to play sports at most Div-1 Major programs and the majority of them are overwhelmingly white. Out of that say 500-600 kids I’d guess maybe at most 120 of them are black (60 on the football team, 8 on the men’s bball, 8 on the women’s bball, 2 M's soccer, 1 lax, etc. The rest of the 450 children receiving free-rides are white and their basically doing it on the skill of the black athletes that play football and basketball.

Okay last argument is the guy that said that someone is inherently born with a talent is beyond one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. No one is born with any "God given" talent. Now you can argue that some are taller than others, which will give them an advantage, some are naturally faster than other, which may give them an advantage, but no on is born with a basketball or football in their hand. All of these Div-1 athletes had to work their a$$ of to get those scholarships and be consider the top athletes out of high school. To say what you said is extremely small minded its basically like saying all Asians are born smarter than whites and blacks, because they have "god given" smarts. No, Asians are not born smarter than whites and blacks, they simply focus a lot more of their time on education and place a greater emphasis on education than both whites and blacks, so because of this difference they tend to excel at higher levels than both whites and blacks. Seriously let me make a sports reference, because this guy is white he can play hockey better than a black or because this guy is black he is therefore a better basketball player than this white guy. These arguments are beyond stupid. Hell if you put a skating rink instead of a basketball court and provide equipment and coaching to little black inner city kids they would dominate hockey as they would spend most of their time like (Russians and Canadians) skating on the ice and not doing their homework. It just common sense people.

[Sam I Am]

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