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Old 03-20-2013, 01:23 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Based on that hypothetical map, Wilmington and the Philly suburbs would be part of Maryland, and then we would have THREE urban areas requiring higher taxes for mass transit and social programs while that part of West Virginia has relatively little population in comparison, and we wouldn't have the tax free shopping in Delaware.

But I think Pennsylvania is one of the more balanced states in terms of both urban, suburban, and rural interests having an equal say. For example while Philadelphia and Pittsburgh have a liberal elite, they haven't been able to pass that many stringent regulations against farmers, coal mining, and natural gas companies in the rest of the state. PA also still has the death penalty and is tougher on illegal immigration than we are.

The Hampstead Bypass isn't much. I've driven it many times. That is a small piece of construction compared to what will cost to build the Baltimore REd Line and the Washington Purple Line. And the Route 50 upgrades on the Eastern Shore most likely were not done to help local residents......more likely it was due to the clamoring by the wealthy residents of Montgomery and Howard Counties and northwest Baltimore County who wanted to get to their Ocean City and Delaware condos and vacation homes quicker.
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:01 AM
 
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Based on that hypothetical map, Wilmington and the Philly suburbs would be part of Maryland, and then we would have THREE urban areas requiring higher taxes for mass transit and social programs while that part of West Virginia has relatively little population in comparison, and we wouldn't have the tax free shopping in Delaware.

But I think Pennsylvania is one of the more balanced states in terms of both urban, suburban, and rural interests having an equal say. For example while Philadelphia and Pittsburgh have a liberal elite, they haven't been able to pass that many stringent regulations against farmers, coal mining, and natural gas companies in the rest of the state. PA also still has the death penalty and is tougher on illegal immigration than we are.

The Hampstead Bypass isn't much. I've driven it many times. That is a small piece of construction compared to what will cost to build the Baltimore REd Line and the Washington Purple Line. And the Route 50 upgrades on the Eastern Shore most likely were not done to help local residents......more likely it was due to the clamoring by the wealthy residents of Montgomery and Howard Counties and northwest Baltimore County who wanted to get to their Ocean City and Delaware condos and vacation homes quicker.
Trust me a liberal urban elite is better than a corrupt good boy elite.

Illegal immigrant don't go to WV. There are no jobs outside of Morgantoen.
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Old 03-20-2013, 10:17 AM
 
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I agree with most of your post, and that the capital region of Maryland (always includes MoCo and PG County, sometimes includes Frederick and Howard counties depending on definition) is probably the most influential part of the state.

Honestly though, it does seem like you have some "personal issues" against the rest of Maryland as well. While I have no qualms with Capital/Central Maryland being the most influential part of the state (as I live there myself), you have to respect the fact that not all of the state thinks the same way as you do.

LOL..Not really a personal issue....I was just responding to Tom Lennox Comment on Montgomery County being the prime problems for whats going on in Maryland
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Old 03-20-2013, 10:33 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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As someone who lives in MoCo, I like the fact that it is considered "elite" by some. That's one of the reasons I moved to this county, besides it being a nice place to live overall. If it wasn't, then I would most likely have moved to another county that was considered "elite." lol.

Oh, and I do like those mountains in western Maryland too. We gotta keep those in the state.
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Old 03-20-2013, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Cumberland
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As someone who lives in MoCo, I like the fact that it is considered "elite" by some. That's one of the reasons I moved to this county, besides it being a nice place to live overall. If it wasn't, then I would most likely have moved to another county that was considered "elite." lol.

Oh, and I do like those mountains in western Maryland too. We gotta keep those in the state.
Glad you like the mountains and want to keep them. Are you willing to work with the people that live in the mountains to help us regain population and the prosperity we once had?
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Old 03-20-2013, 11:20 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Glad you like the mountains and want to keep them. Are you willing to work with the people that live in the mountains to help us regain population and the prosperity we once had?
The same is true of the Eastern Shore and the coastal and aquatic lands and islands that y'all love so much (at least some of you......others of you just snub your nose at Easton and Cambridge as you drive aggressively to Ocean City or that liberal haven Rehoboth Beach in your Prius). Even in Ocean City a lot of the businesses seem to be run by people who are not from there and they bring in seasonal jobs like college kids on summer vacation to work in the hotels and restaurants and that doesn't really benefit the local communities. Then the tax revenue is siphoned off to Baltimore and the DC region, including all the alcohol taxes paid by tourists which mostly goes to Baltimore City and PG County. Bmore City thinks if they remodel the schools people will choose to go there vs sell drugs on the streets like generation and generation before them?
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Old 03-20-2013, 11:23 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Montgomery County IS the source of a lot of the problems we have. It is the reason the tolls were increased because they needed the ICC. They are the ones who are leading or participating the push toward death penalty repeal, tax increases of all sorts, more gun restrictions illegal immigration, the wind farms, and the opposition to farming and natural gas.

If Baltimore City and MoCo want gun control laws why can't they just pass them locally? Why can't a plastic bag tax in MoCo be enough why do they have to force it on the rest of the state? Why can't they build their own wind power facilities and fund it with local taxes? And I wonder how the new wind farm bill will hurt Ocean City if the view is destroyed and some people decide to go to other beaches in other states?
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Old 03-20-2013, 11:28 AM
 
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The same is true of the Eastern Shore and the coastal and aquatic lands and islands that y'all love so much (at least some of you......others of you just snub your nose at Easton and Cambridge as you drive aggressively to Ocean City or that liberal
Yet you're the one calling for road projects that will benefit them.
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Old 03-20-2013, 11:33 AM
 
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Montgomery County IS the source of a lot of the problems we have. It is the reason the tolls were increased because they needed the ICC. They are the ones who are leading or participating the push toward death penalty repeal, tax increases of all sorts, more gun restrictions illegal immigration, the wind farms, and the opposition to farming and natural gas.

If Baltimore City and MoCo want gun control laws why can't they just pass them locally? Why can't a plastic bag tax in MoCo be enough why do they have to force it on the rest of the state? Why can't they build their own wind power facilities and fund it with local taxes? And I wonder how the new wind farm bill will hurt Ocean City if the view is destroyed and some people decide to go to other beaches in other states?
If Ehrlich left it alone, there would be no ICC. I don't see how perserving land for agriculture use is opposition to farming. The toll increase only went up an extra dollar, not that big of a deal. Take it or leave it.
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Old 03-21-2013, 08:47 AM
 
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Are we sure Tom is not just trolling us? This is parody right??
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