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Old 04-25-2013, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Maryland not Murlin
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I can only speak for myself. I own a handgun for home defense. Much better IMO, than a bulky rifle.

That being said I really enjoy shooting the AR-15 at the range. Yes, target shooting is a hobby, it is fun, it lets off steam. Safety first always, but for many people shooting is recreation.

So, about the AR-15. You don't need to reload often. It is easy to shoot. It is easy to handle. It is accurate. For instance, my first time shooting with one was using no scope, standing, and aiming at an 8.5X11 piece of paper at 75 yards. I got 3 out of 5 rounds on the paper. Not great, but good for my newbie standards. I enjoyed it. I could easily see why people who target shoot often would want one.
Sure, and I agree. However the "pro-gun" voice, at least as demonstrated here on City-Data, seems to not be saying this but more on the line of The boogie man is watching me.

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I'm positive O'malley would love to seize all corporate and small business taxes, and I can't help but not to like the guy for some some reason, I see him as a good person but I just believe he's too far to the left with his politics and he wouldn't mind turning MD never mind the US into a Socialist country.
Maryland is not becoming Socialist: it remains a capitalist State, and always will be. A small minority own the factories, offices, land etc, and the overwhelming majority have to work for wages in order to live. Production takes place for the sake of profit, and there is massive inequality in terms of wealth and power. Unemployment, homelessness, violence - all part of Capitalism.

Socialism in contrast is a moneyless, classless, world society based on common ownership of the means of production and production for use.

When Marx spoke of abolition of private property, he meant private property in the means of production, which means doing away with a situation where a tiny set of millionaires and billionaires own factories etc., and live very nicely off rent, interest and profit. The US has plenty of ultra-rich "owners".

We have been practicing small-scale Socialism for many, many, years as it is. Our public libraries, public schools (non-college), police, fire departments, Coast Guard, Charm City Circulator, Postal Service, (city) snow plows, national park service, and a host of others are practiced forms Socialism that most do not consider to be so. If we were truly a Capitalist State, let alone society, everything would be privately owned, including Government. That would never happen in Maryland, just like being near-complete Socialists will never happen, either.

As for Universal Health Care; States still have individual rights as demonstrated by the few that legalized marijuana and same-sex marriage. Marijuana is still illegal according to Federal law, and the Federal Government does not recognize same-sex marriages. In all honesty, what would Obama do if one State refused to participate in Obamacare? Nothing. The Federal Government does not have the power. To my knowledge, Alabama, Georgia, Texas, Wyoming, Florida, Luisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Pennsylvania I believe,and a few others (13 total) have flat refused to participate, and more are on the fence.
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Old 04-25-2013, 02:47 PM
 
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Sure, and I agree. However the "pro-gun" voice, at least as demonstrated here on City-Data, seems to not be saying this but more on the line of The boogie man is watching me.
What are you talking about? I've been using the same argument in like, every thread that comes up with gun control in it.
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Old 04-25-2013, 07:19 PM
 
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Sure, and I agree. However the "pro-gun" voice, at least as demonstrated here on City-Data, seems to not be saying this but more on the line of The boogie man is watching me.



Maryland is not becoming Socialist: it remains a capitalist State, and always will be. A small minority own the factories, offices, land etc, and the overwhelming majority have to work for wages in order to live. Production takes place for the sake of profit, and there is massive inequality in terms of wealth and power. Unemployment, homelessness, violence - all part of Capitalism.

Socialism in contrast is a moneyless, classless, world society based on common ownership of the means of production and production for use.

When Marx spoke of abolition of private property, he meant private property in the means of production, which means doing away with a situation where a tiny set of millionaires and billionaires own factories etc., and live very nicely off rent, interest and profit. The US has plenty of ultra-rich "owners".

We have been practicing small-scale Socialism for many, many, years as it is. Our public libraries, public schools (non-college), police, fire departments, Coast Guard, Charm City Circulator, Postal Service, (city) snow plows, national park service, and a host of others are practiced forms Socialism that most do not consider to be so. If we were truly a Capitalist State, let alone society, everything would be privately owned, including Government. That would never happen in Maryland, just like being near-complete Socialists will never happen, either.

As for Universal Health Care; States still have individual rights as demonstrated by the few that legalized marijuana and same-sex marriage. Marijuana is still illegal according to Federal law, and the Federal Government does not recognize same-sex marriages. In all honesty, what would Obama do if one State refused to participate in Obamacare? Nothing. The Federal Government does not have the power. To my knowledge, Alabama, Georgia, Texas, Wyoming, Florida, Luisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Pennsylvania I believe,and a few others (13 total) have flat refused to participate, and more are on the fence.
When I say Socialism, I'm saying O'Malley wouldn't mind turning MD into a socialist state, it's obvious with his business practice that he doesn't care one lick about business and would prefer the federal government to have even more employees in the state as opposed to businesses. I have no major problems with the guy aside that he doesn't like business and that's what truly makes me believe he would want to turn MD socialisit. I haven't seen one thing, not one that O'Malley makes it seem as if he wants the upper-middle class or the wealthy to thrive, instead he'd rather play Robin Hood. Now am I saying I don't support wealth redistribution? No, I believe wealth needs to be redistributed and that's great for a economy, but O'Malley isn't doing it the 'capitalists' way. He believes that he can tax his way out of problems, and the more revenues he gets the more he decides to spend.

I've never dislike a politican as much as I have disliked O'Malley, he's letting our neighbor to the south suck up all the wealth and jobs while we continue to increase taxation, increase govt presence, and make more regulations, I mean little children can't even sell a simply cup of lemonade under O'Malley; of course it's probably not his rule that you can't have a lemonade stand but nonetheless I'm sure he would approve of legislation banning street vendors unless they have a permit. All he has to do is lower corporate tax to prove to me that he likes business rather than deciding to let VA continue beating MD on the business side of things.
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Old 04-30-2013, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Germantown, MD
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"So, it looks like Maryland has become a pretty liberal state all of a sudden?"

All of a sudden? Lol. Maryland has been liberal for decades, just not the radical, Northern California brand of liberal we're seeing now (although Montgomery County has been that way for a loong time). O'Malley has merely been a catalyst for the conversion. I'm not complaining at all. I'd rather live in a far-left state like Maryland or Massachusetts than a ultra-conservative state like Alabama or Texas.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:25 AM
 
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The gun control bill is just feel-good legislation IMO, I doubt you'll see a significant reduction in murders because of it.
Correction, the gun control bill is just feel-good unconstitutional legislation that treats law-abiding gun owners like criminals. We do not require fingerprints to drive a car, which is a privilege, not an enumerated right. However, the new law requires one to submit to fingerprinting for handgun purchases, which is effectively an unwarranted search. I seriously doubt that the left-wing loonies who inhabit The People's Republic of Montgomery County and P.G. County would stand for a state law that required all women who wanted to undergo an abortion to undergo a background check and fingerprinting. A gun purchase does not guarantee the loss of life--abortions always end in the loss of life!

The gun control law illustrates the disconnect between the D.C. Suburbs and "Real Maryland." This law was forced upon Maryland residents by left-wing loonies in Montgomery County (Jamie Raskin and company). The gas tax was forced upon Maryland residents by the left-wing loonies in Montgomery County. We all have pay for their Metro extensions through the increased gas tax just like we had to pay for the ICC through increased tolls on other roads and bridges. Most of the people who live in Montgomery County are economic transients who do not have deep historical ties to the state. Few would put up with someone attempting to change their home states/countries on the level that they are changing Maryland. If anyone ever wondered why native Marylanders despise the residents of the D.C. Suburbs, especially Montgomery County, here's your sign.
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Old 05-07-2013, 12:10 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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I wonder if Maryland is even more liberal than California in some ways. For example, California voters defeated gay marriage in a referendum, and also upheld the death penalty in a referendum. We shall see how the people of Maryland vote in 2014 on the death penalty. Its also very telling that illegal aliens get in-state tuition here.......they do in California too, but at least in California you can explain it partially with racial politics and Hispanics voting in favor of illegal immigration out of racial solidarity. Here there are less illegals (at least for now) but there is STILL the illegal alien Dream Act and illegal alien licenses. All the other conservative states with a Dream Act like Texas and Kansas and Nebraska all have a large illegal alien population that is racially motivated. Here there is that too but even more so there are radical homegrown liberals in places like Montgomery and Howard.

Maryland is controlled by Montgomery COunty, but they have their house slaves in Baltimore City and PG to help them in the general assembly. There are some things that Baltimore City should be able to stand with the rest of Maryland on vs with MoCo like gay marriage and the gas tax but its insider politics.
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Old 05-07-2013, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Maryland not Murlin
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I wonder if Maryland is even more liberal than California in some ways. For example, California voters defeated gay marriage in a referendum, and also upheld the death penalty in a referendum. We shall see how the people of Maryland vote in 2014 on the death penalty. Its also very telling that illegal aliens get in-state tuition here.......they do in California too, but at least in California you can explain it partially with racial politics and Hispanics voting in favor of illegal immigration out of racial solidarity. Here there are less illegals (at least for now) but there is STILL the illegal alien Dream Act and illegal alien licenses. All the other conservative states with a Dream Act like Texas and Kansas and Nebraska all have a large illegal alien population that is racially motivated. Here there is that too but even more so there are radical homegrown liberals in places like Montgomery and Howard.

Maryland is controlled by Montgomery COunty, but they have their house slaves in Baltimore City and PG to help them in the general assembly. There are some things that Baltimore City should be able to stand with the rest of Maryland on vs with MoCo like gay marriage and the gas tax but its insider politics.
I was born and raised in California, lived there for 2/3s of my life so far, and go back at least once per year. Believe me when I tell you this: California is not that Liberal, don't believe the media that seems to only focus on one small aspect of the State. Keep in mind that at least half of California's Governors are Republican and since 1967 when the poster child for the GOP won, Reagan, only three Democrats were elected as Governor...and all three only lasted one term with the exception of Gray Davis who was elected into a second term mostly out of apathy...no one really liked the guy- which was evident when he lost the recall (popular vote by the people of California) shortly into his second term. Maryland is definitely more Liberal.

Also, most of the Hispanics in California are from Mexico; and there is tension between those who were born in America and those who immigrated. The Mexican-Americans tend to see Mexican immigrants as "hicks" of sorts and the Mexican immigrants see the American-born as having lost their identity. Growing up in California, I had many Mexican (American) friends and most struggled with a dual identity of their heritage and of being American. California has large immigrant populations from all over the world, not just south of the border. And most Hispanics have a tendency for Conservative politics because of their Catholic faith. Granted, I am painting the picture here with a broad brush; there are always exceptions and outliers.
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