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Old 09-08-2013, 07:36 PM
 
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Western Maryland secessionists seek to sever ties with the liberal Free State - The Washington Post

Apparently there are secession movements throughout the US. With regard to Maryland. you'd think the residents of Eastern Shore would have greater grievances against Annapolis though.
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Old 09-08-2013, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Cumberland
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Western Maryland is Allegany and Garrett Counties, and any native out my way will tell you the same. Our two counties are a region apart. We are in the meat of the Appalachian mountains, we are geographically isolated from the rest of the state (Hagerstown is closer in distance to Rockville than it is to Cumberland) and suffer from population stagnation/decline and income levels that resemble WV and SW PA.

None of these traits are found in Washington, Frederick, or Carroll Counties. Washington and Frederick Counties have some mountainous areas, but are dominated by large fertile valleys (Carroll county has no mountains, it is rolling farm country.) These same GOP Central Maryland counties are growing in population and have income levels about average for the state as they are commutable locations.

I don't want to be outvoted by NIMBY exurbanites anymore than I want to be outvoted by closer-in suburbanites. They can both do us a favor though and stop misusing our moniker.

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Old 09-08-2013, 09:03 PM
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Jefferson - The 51st State - Northern California / Southern Oregon - A State of Mind

YREKA, Calif. (AP) Sep 5, 2013 — Supervisors in a far Northern California county where residents are fed up with what they see as a lack of representation at the state capitol and overregulation have voted in favor of separating from the state.

The Siskiyou County Board of Supervisors voted 4-1 on Tuesday for a declaration of secession...
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Old 09-08-2013, 09:31 PM
 
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Just the proposed state name itself "Jefferson" is enough for me to LOL!!!
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Old 09-09-2013, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Maryland not Murlin
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Western Maryland secessionists seek to sever ties with the liberal Free State - The Washington Post

Apparently there are secession movements throughout the US. With regard to Maryland. you'd think the residents of Eastern Shore would have greater grievances against Annapolis though.
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Jefferson - The 51st State - Northern California / Southern Oregon - A State of Mind

YREKA, Calif. (AP) Sep 5, 2013 — Supervisors in a far Northern California county where residents are fed up with what they see as a lack of representation at the state capitol and overregulation have voted in favor of separating from the state.

The Siskiyou County Board of Supervisors voted 4-1 on Tuesday for a declaration of secession...
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I did not read either link, but NJ2MDdude is right; every State has had, or continues to have, a secessionists movement. Some instances make sense, such as California, Texas, New England (Maine in particular) leaving to become their own thing as these States for the most part are culturally different than the "U.S." as a whole, and, can support themselves on their own. Yet, others, in particular parts of States that wish to leave, do not really make much sense outside of "we're just different". The logistics of Western Maryland becoming its own thing simply will not work, but the Eastern Shore could probably pull it off.

As for California, even though I was born in SoCal, I grew up-or more importantly-came of age in NorCal. Like many other native Californians who live in NorCal, I fully support a Northern-Southern Californian split. I love that part of California and Oregon, and agree they are more closely tied politically (Conservative politics despite everyone in the rest of the U.S. believing that California and Oregon are some sorts of hardcore Lefty enclaves as a whole ), but I would stop at the California/Oregon border and extend the southern boundary to around San Louis Obispo. Besides, Oregon-in particular Portland, still holds resentment towards Northern California even though NorCal has sided with Oregon since almost day one.
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Old 09-09-2013, 07:30 AM
 
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With regard to Maryland. you'd think the residents of Eastern Shore would have greater grievances against Annapolis though.
The Eastern Shore had an active secessionist movement about 45 years ago. I remember hearing a TV news interview with a secessionist spokesman. The news guy asked "What are you going to call your new state?" to which the reply was "We're going to call it Maryland -- let the other part scratch around for a new name."
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Old 09-09-2013, 07:38 AM
 
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Given Maryland's exorbitant taxes, business unfriendly environment, and never ending enactment of Nannie laws --- "Free State" is a sad joke.
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Old 09-09-2013, 09:37 AM
 
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The Sentinel

Here is the Sentinel article about the western marylanders who want to secede
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Old 09-09-2013, 11:01 AM
 
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The Eastern Shore had an active secessionist movement about 45 years ago. I remember hearing a TV news interview with a secessionist spokesman. The news guy asked "What are you going to call your new state?" to which the reply was "We're going to call it Maryland -- let the other part scratch around for a new name."
Culturally I believe MD Eastern Shore and southern DE are one entity divided by an artificial line. I read somewhere that before the Bay Bridge was constructed, the MD Eastern Shore was more connected to Wilmington and Philadelphia than Baltimore and DC. There's a lot of potential down there. I'm surprised the economies of Cambridge and Salisbury aren't more developed. I think if there was one large state university there, to counter UMCP, than the economic outlook would improve substantially. Like wise in western MD.
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Old 09-09-2013, 11:27 AM
 
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It will never happen.
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