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Old 11-05-2014, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Cumberland
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Originally Posted by phlinak View Post
You mean the roads don't get fixed, the schools don't get built, and the other amenities associated with a good quality of life aren't done........for FREE!!!

You mean that you have to........pay taxes!!!

BOO HOO!!!!!

The horror..........the horror.......

The wisdom and willingness of Marylanders to invest in their schools, universities, roads, transportation, and other infrastructure is one of the reasons that Maryland has always been considered a good place to work, play, and raise a family.

Lately, a more short-sighted, self-centered, and self-serving electorate has been hijacking the governor's mansion, as illustrated last night.

This mindset is one of the reasons that many of us choose not to return to Maryland.

You ilk are going to destroy a once great state.

Mark my words.
"The sky is falling! The sky is falling!"

You do know what happened at the end of the Chicken Little morality tale right? The histrionic bird and buddies he whips into a froth are pegged by Foxy Loxy who sees their naivety and uses it to trick them into being his dinner.

Well, you are Chicken Little, and Foxy Loxy is whatever politican with a D by his/her name that realizes all they need to do is play into your self-created hysteria for an easy vote. Maryland didn't fall for it this time, it seems you still did.
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Old 11-06-2014, 04:31 AM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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"The sky is falling! The sky is falling!"

You do know what happened at the end of the Chicken Little morality tale right?
The histrionic bird and buddies he whips into a froth are pegged...
Good analogy.
But you got the antagonist backward.
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Old 11-06-2014, 07:07 AM
 
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So, how does that crow taste?
Why would I eat a crow? People who don't live in backwoods areas don't normally eat varmints or random birds they see around. You shouldn't either, you could get brain wasting diseases from tainted fowl.
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Old 11-06-2014, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Cumberland
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Why would I eat a crow? People who don't live in backwoods areas don't normally eat varmints or random birds they see around. You shouldn't either, you could get brain wasting diseases from tainted fowl.
Crows aren't fowl, they are passerines, more specifically corvids. I am guessing biology isn't your strength either....or idioms.
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Old 11-06-2014, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Alaska
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"The sky is falling! The sky is falling!"

You do know what happened at the end of the Chicken Little morality tale right? The histrionic bird and buddies he whips into a froth are pegged by Foxy Loxy who sees their naivety and uses it to trick them into being his dinner.

Well, you are Chicken Little, and Foxy Loxy is whatever politican with a D by his/her name that realizes all they need to do is play into your self-created hysteria for an easy vote. Maryland didn't fall for it this time, it seems you still did.
Those who don't learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat their mistakes:

Remember Bob Ehrlich

Enough said.
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Old 11-06-2014, 10:58 AM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Those who don't learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat their mistakes:

Remember Bob Ehrlich

Enough said.
I do remember.

I remember a balanced State budget without multiple tax increases.

I remember when two married teachers weren't considered the "undeserving rich" who deserved to pay higher State income taxes.

I remember a fully funded and solvent State Retirement System.

I remember the State covering the teacher pension contributions for the Counties as had been done since the 1920's.

I remember when 1/3 of my pension contribution didn't go to balance the General Fund.

I remember fully funded Highway User Revenue moneys going to the localities.

I remember fully funded State Aid for Police going to the localities.

I remember the ease of getting state funding for projects when you went before the Board of Public Works.

I remember the Flush Tax being a grant program and not a bonding mechanism.

I remember when Project Open Space money was actually available for open space projects.

I remember when the Legislature claimed that authorizing casinos to fund the Thornton Bridge to Excellence was called a "tax on the poor" and so couldn't be done.
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Old 11-10-2014, 09:06 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Tell you what. You pay for only your roads outside of the metro areas and the metro areas will pay for their roads only.

Guess who will run out of money first.
I now live in West Virginia and we pay for our own roads, and part of our federal gas tax money is redistributed toward mass transit in the DC area, Baltimore City, New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Atlanta and elsewhere in America. Now they are talking about high speed rail in California that will cost billions while there are highways in West Virginia waiting for upgrades and construction like Corridor H (which will connect central WV with Interstate 81 in Virginia close to Front Royal) and the Coalfields Expressway which is critical to the economy in southern WV.

The DC area is the main cause of Maryland's ridiculously high taxes. The Purple Line should be funded exclusively by local taxes in Montgomery and PG Counties and the District. I used to live in Baltimore County and oppose the Red Line there which costs tax money and will only have a negative impact on suburban communities and bring more crime and drugs out from the city like what happened in Timonium, Cockeysville, and Owings Mills and especially Linthicum ever since the Light Rail and Baltimore Metro were built. I read that in Linthicum when the light rail stations were closed for a few months for some reason the crime rate dropped temporarily.
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Old 11-11-2014, 08:44 AM
 
Location: It's in the name!
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The Purple Line should be funded exclusively by local taxes in Montgomery and PG Counties and the District.
The Purple Line doesn't run in the district. Maryland and DC will flip red before DC funds a Maryland project. Also, a large part of the congestion on 495 and 95 are form people outside of the DC area. People from Anne Arundel, Howard and Baltimore counties travel on the northern half of the Beltway. Shouldn't they help pay to alleviate that congestion as well?
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Old 11-11-2014, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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I now live in West Virginia and we pay for our own roads, and part of our federal gas tax money is redistributed toward mass transit in the DC area, Baltimore City, New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Atlanta and elsewhere in America. Now they are talking about high speed rail in California that will cost billions while there are highways in West Virginia waiting for upgrades and construction like Corridor H (which will connect central WV with Interstate 81 in Virginia close to Front Royal) and the Coalfields Expressway which is critical to the economy in southern WV.

The DC area is the main cause of Maryland's ridiculously high taxes. The Purple Line should be funded exclusively by local taxes in Montgomery and PG Counties and the District. I used to live in Baltimore County and oppose the Red Line there which costs tax money and will only have a negative impact on suburban communities and bring more crime and drugs out from the city like what happened in Timonium, Cockeysville, and Owings Mills and especially Linthicum ever since the Light Rail and Baltimore Metro were built. I read that in Linthicum when the light rail stations were closed for a few months for some reason the crime rate dropped temporarily.
If you live in a rural area, chances are your infrastructure is heavily subsidized by those living in urban and suburban areas. There is simply not enough tax money gnerated in places like Western Maryland and Western Virginia or any other state outside of metro areas to fund everything for so little people. So if you want to go out and try to fund your own roads, bridges, schools, water treatment, social services etc with money generated by your own counties and no longer have to deal with the urban and suburban counties that need things like light rail, go for it and good luck.
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Old 11-11-2014, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Cumberland
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If you live in a rural area, chances are your infrastructure is heavily subsidized by those living in urban and suburban areas. There is simply not enough tax money gnerated in places like Western Maryland and Western Virginia or any other state outside of metro areas to fund everything for so little people. So if you want to go out and try to fund your own roads, bridges, schools, water treatment, social services etc with money generated by your own counties and no longer have to deal with the urban and suburban counties that need things like light rail, go for it and good luck.
Money for infrastructure = good
State stonewalling any attempts at developing my depopulating area through one-size-fits all growth restrictions = bad

I would gladly give you guys back the money in exchange for the ability to determine policies that work and make sense if our part of the world. Since we are forced to be part of the same state, I say we take the chance a GOP governor gives us and find way to meet in the middle.

btw, Tom lives in West Virginia, I am sure he sees horrible infrastructure each and every day, yet seems happy with where he lives. Money and shiny projects aren't everything in determining quality of life. Sometimes mountains, trees, and a bit of freedom from onerous regulation are enough.
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