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Old 09-04-2014, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Glen Burnie, MD
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Well Dave, welcome....so you're just now strongly considering it....well damn, what would it take for you to actually DO it. How out of hand does this state have to get for people to stop putting liberal Dems in power in this state? It's BEEN crazy.

Thanks you for at least considering another choice.
The last two elections I voted against EVERY incumbent...EVERY one....and that was BEFORE The "rain tax."
Politicians need to know if you don't do what we like -- you're OUT!
The problem I've personally found is that the voters are just so disengaged these days. Take a look at the primary, which boasted a voter turnout of a whopping 22 percent. 20 years ago, turnout was 40 percent, almost double last election's turnout.

Let's look at some of O'malley's "accomplishments"

- The "rain tax". We're now so greedy we have to tax the rain now. At least we're not Washington state or Oregon (thank goodness )
- Businesses have had enough of being taxed to death and are now fleeing the state, taking jobs and the money they do have with them.
-Toll increases. Since he's been in office, the tunnel/Key bridge tolls have doubled from $2 to $4. Politicians know this avoids the stigma of a tax. It's a "toll", NOT a "tax".
- Public transportation fare increases, registration updates (My registration is due by the end of the month, and it's up to $135!!!!! ), and countless other fees and taxes too numerous to list.

A few months ago I saw someone walking around the historic part of Ellicott City wearing a shirt that said "Owe Malley, taxin' and relaxin'". That is so true!

I wish more voters were engaged in the current races and as fed up with the current administration as I am. I subscribe to the quote "If you don't vote, you get the government you deserve".
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Old 09-04-2014, 09:42 PM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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...the primary, which boasted a voter turnout of a whopping 22 percent.
A better turnout would have worked against Brown and against Hogan too.
The machine has a grip on BOTH parties.

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- The "rain tax".
Is about a FEDERAL mandate. NOT Maryland.
We have the same basic thing here in NC too ($50/yr on the water bill).
Get over it.

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I wish more voters were engaged in the current races...
It still won't get your R' elected.
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Old 09-04-2014, 10:26 PM
 
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- The "rain tax".
Is about a FEDERAL mandate. NOT Maryland.
We have the same basic thing here in NC too ($50/yr on the water bill).
Get over it.
Are you saying there's no other way to have met that mandate?
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Old 09-05-2014, 06:31 AM
 
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Are you saying there's no other way to have met that mandate?
you can remove impervious surfaces from your property

The complaining about the rain tax is pretty silly.

I'm not much of a fan of Brown, but he is better than the alternative unfortunately.

I think most people's complaints about Democrats & MD in general is really more based on the high cost of living (which is mostly fueled by high housing costs, and high salaries, not taxes) and the problems caused by the incredible growth of the area in the last 40 years. (traffic, overcrowding, etc).

The reality is tolls are pretty much in line with other states in the region, taxes are on the high side, but not extreme or anything. The various fees are pretty much the same as other places.
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Old 09-05-2014, 07:11 AM
 
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Anthony Brown failed miserably at the one big task he was given as Lt. Governor (Obamacare implementation). Do Maryland Democrats and liberals not care that the guy is obviously incompetent at leading and managing?
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Old 09-05-2014, 07:31 AM
 
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Anthony Brown failed miserably at the one big task he was given as Lt. Governor (Obamacare implementation). Do Maryland Democrats and liberals not care that the guy is obviously incompetent at leading and managing?
Maryland Democrats and Liberals do not think any part of Obamacare was a failure.

The majority in Maryland is very pro illegal, pro welfare state, pro affirmative action, pro tax & spend, and pro anything else that is a hallmark of Liberalism.

Massachusetts got nothing on Maryland.
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Old 09-05-2014, 07:53 AM
 
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I'm new to the area. Don't blindly follow any party, but like someone said earlier Brown seems to be the lesser of two evils.

My early sense about this state (I've been here all of six months) is that most voters (even the more liberal ones) would consider voting for the GOP candidate, but he/she would have to be a viable one. For all of the hair-pulling and gnashing of teeth folks do over the never-ending "tax & spend" behavior of liberal candidates who seem to constantly overreach in their quest to support every social service on the books, many of the folks I talk to aren't willing to go to the opposite extreme and support a candidate who may be too beholden to business interests and intrusive social policies. Something in the middle would be awesome, but where are the candidates who champion some sort of middle ground?

I can't help but believe that many MD voters have paid a great deal of attention to the way things have played out politically across the Potomac over the last few years or so, and they have come to the conclusion that while having their pockets pillaged on a constant basis is not an ideal situation, the political alternative could be a lot worse.
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Old 09-05-2014, 07:53 AM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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Anthony Brown failed miserably at the one big task he was given as Lt. Governor...
You make that sound as though he had any actual authority to balance that 'responsibility'
He was put up as a stalking horse / sacrificial lamb.
Get over it.

That he allowed this to happen to him (and his career) is the indictment...
not that the program was poorly considered and un-manageable no matter who had the job.
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Old 09-05-2014, 08:11 AM
 
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Good grief WHY do people just rollover for tax and spend politicians?

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Quote: Originally Posted by rdflk
Are you saying there's no other way to have met that mandate?
you can remove impervious surfaces from your property
ay jayy
Does the mandate actually say TAX or CHARGE people for water runoff? (No it doens't)
Or is that the way lawmakers CHOSE to address the issue? (this would be a 'yes.'

Note:
Maryland doesn’t need a ‘rain tax’ to protect the Chesapeake Bay


http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...abb_story.html

In the Aug. 12 editorial “Blame, blame, go away,” the argument that the Maryland “rain tax” is mandated by the federal government and Maryland is incorrect. The Environmental Protection Agency mandate requires action (not a tax) by all six Chesapeake Bay watershed states to reduce certain target pollutants.
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Old 09-05-2014, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa?
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The Dems in control of Maryland automatically think that any solution to any problem means more revenue is needed from the people, in order to throw money at the problem. Then there's the Dems that gin up problems that never existed in the first place. Sometimes they are one in the same.
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