Why Did You Move Out Of Maryland.... (Baltimore, Frederick: mortgage, attorney)

[CJtheman07]

Originally Posted by mom2boys37

Ok, lets start this topic. Since I'm always the negative person or so people state, I would like to see how many others are fed up w/ the way Maryland has come and why they left. No positive here, just the negative as the other post only wanted positive posts.

I hate Maryland because--

Over priced for what it is
Bad Traffic
Stupid Governor
Snobby people

hmmm...I can keep going but I will keep it at this until others respond. The best thing. NO sugar coating. If you have articles that would be wonderful too.

I hate the suburban brats that are taking over. I was forced out because of jacked-up prices during 04/05, but now i plan to move back. Right now im in Pennsylvania, and if you thought MD was snobby, you'd hate it up here. 99% of kids in the suburbs of PA are spoiled. I lived in Havre de Grace, and was forced out because of that dammed suburb Bulle Rock. Then I moved to Canton. What do ya know? Forced outta there because of rich yuppies too!

[mdtoaz]

Originally Posted by CJtheman07

I lived in Havre de Grace, and was forced out because of that dammed suburb Bulle Rock.

The fact that HdeG is now "yuppie" just cracks me up. I graduated from Havre de Grace High in 1990, and the town was anything but upscale. Even then, though, you could see the direction the town was trying to take - they had finished building Log Pond and had started on Canvasback Cove (I think that's what it's called).

Same thing with Port Deposit - I always thought it had it's own quaint charm, but when it got right down to it, PD was considered the armit of NE Maryland. Now, it's brand new condos and marinas.

Maryland has changed drastically over the years. I grew up in Darlington, which still remains fairly untouched by developers, but it's only a matter of time. It's a shame. Harford County used to be full of big fields and horse farms, now it's Mc Mansions and house farms.

[MD2NC]

I've grown up in Montgomery county my whole life. Well after having kids and finding out that all we can afford is a small townhouse here, we decided to pack up and move to Charlotte. Found a better paying job, looking for a bigger house and love it here. People are so much more helpful and friendly than in MD and the weather is great. I couldn't have made a better decision for me and my family.

[evilhomer1]

The positives:
- There are lots of jobs out here. Note that the federal gov't jobs are NOT "recession proof", but they are a decent buffer. A downturn of collected revenues translates directly into a downturn of hiring in the federal sector.
- You can make a lot of money if you get a clearance and an advanced degree. I tripled my salary from Michigan to move out here, and I didn't take the highest offer I received.
- If you're relatively young, there's a ton of stuff to do at night. I'm 30 and don't see myself running out of places to visit.
- The weather here isn't all that bad. It snows what, 3 - 4 times per year and that snow melts within a week? The summers are humid but it's not nearly as bad as say Florida or Georgia.

The negatives:
- The people. Hands down this is my biggest complaint. Daily I will encounter no less than 5 idiots on the area freeways over my 15 mile commute. People driving 5 under in the left lane, tailgaters, people who drive 30 over in the right lane, people who haven't figured out how to merge, people who don't know what a stop sign is for. Then there's the attitude. I'm important, I'm rich, my kids are more important than you, I have an important job, I drive a fancy car. That about sums it up.
- Expensive. When a starter house in Howard County is "priced nicely" at $450k, there is a problem. When I see my power bill costing more than my brothers car payment (it's a nice car and I live in an apartment), there's a problem. When my rent is double what my parents pay on their Florida mortgage, there's a problem.
- governance and laws of this state. While I will try to adopt the laws of wherever I live, I find the laws of this state to be difficult to stomach. State AND local income tax will run you around 7 - 8%. Yes, that's on top of your 25 - 33% federal hit. Your money will be promptly handed out on social programs and flooded into the area schools, regardless of merit. So if you're single and childless, the state gov't will cause you a surplus of grey hair. Firearm laws. Baltimore is one of the most dangerous cities in America, yet you can't arm yourself.

All in all, this is a great place to get your start out of college. Live in a small apartment with friends, go out occasionally, drive a cheap used car, get your employer to pay for your masters degree or PhD, and SAVE YOUR MONEY. Honestly, I'll be out of here within 10 years and officially retired because I'm saving over 65% of my after-tax income. Since skilled labor is relatively tight out here, your employer is likely to foot at least some of the bill for your next college degree. So this state is great if you use it as a stop-over on your way to a more pleasant place to live. This state is awful if you fall into the east coast lifestyle and end up trapped here.

[md to nc]

Tuborg - It depends on the county you live in and then the town you live in as well. Union county is about $.40 per $100 and $.13 per $100 for Indian Trail. Then there is the property tax on our cars which is about $99 to $200 depending on the year and book value of your car. After is all equates though it is equal to the one property tax you pay in MD plus the new sewer tax in Carroll County and their piggy back tax of 1%. It all washes out the same either way in my eyes. The only difference is my mortgage in MD was $3500 and now it is $1900 and my house is about 800 sq feet more.

[Maxchus]

I want to move out of, not only Maryland, but this entire region. Most of the reasons have been stated already by so many people in thread. But, another couple of reasons to leave are: Maryland has no real identity of it's own and it's population is very transient. That leads to having a populace that is very cold, distant and nearly cutthroat. Having to live in such close proximity to too many people, especially those types of people, is extremely alienating. Before long more than an entire third of this state will be one unbroken, densely packed urban mass; with few people having any common ground or even a good reason to get along.

[Maxchus]

Originally Posted by nickluva

Maryland maybe sucks to you and terp but you two seem like the type who enjoy having your next door neighbors live two miles away from you. If that's the case maybe you two should escape give one of those places that you two keep bringing up a try I bet that you'll appreicate MD even more. I live here in Arizona, a state that both of you have put in a positive light. I'm here because my wife grew up out here and I wanted to try something new but I don't really like it out here. There's no culture out here, Phoenix is nothing more than a big ol "suburb". The major political figures are flat out biggots with the exception of the govenor and they have some backwards state laws out here. Terp would love it here because they love to go after illegals. I can't wait til I sell my house this year and move back to MD where I belong.

So...where is all this culture that you're talking about in Maryland?

[Tom Lennox 70]

Originally Posted by Maxchus

I want to move out of, not only Maryland, but this entire region. Most of the reasons have been stated already by so many people in thread. But, another couple of reasons to leave are: Maryland has no real identity of it's own and it's population is very transient. That leads to having a populace that is very cold, distant and nearly cutthroat. Having to live in such close proximity to too many people, especially those types of people, is extremely alienating. Before long more than an entire third of this state will be one unbroken, densely packed urban mass; with few people having any common ground or even a good reason to get along.

NOt exactly transient, I think its mostly people up north moving here. But the way how in parts of Maryland, at least Montgomery and Howard, everyone's from somewhere else, its like it feels like everywhere but yet nowhere. We're not the only place like that though. Look at Florida, Georgia, Nevada, Arizona, California....most of the western states and some parts of the South.

Maryland does have some kind of identity centered around Baltimore, Annapolis, and the Chesapeake Bay. Howard and Montgomery are a whole different story.

[Maxchus]

Originally Posted by Terrapin2212

Maryland does have some kind of identity centered around Baltimore, Annapolis, and the Chesapeake Bay. Howard and Montgomery are a whole different story.

Baltimore isn't exactly an identity I want to be a part of and the old culture/identity of the Chesapeake is dying off to some degree.

[nickluva]

Originally Posted by Maxchus

So...where is all this culture that you're talking about in Maryland?

There's plenty of culture in Maryland and in the mid-atlantic region are you kidding me? Annapolis, Baltimore and D.C.(some mistakenly think has no culture) have more culture than 2/3rd's of the whole nation by themselves. You're telling me that the Eastern Shore and Western Maryland don't have their own way of life??? Despite of the large transient population Maryland has various cultures. Plenty of outlets like world class museums, plenty of colleges, DC and Baltimore have their own music scenes(go-go and club). Maybe you need to get out of the region more and you'll see that most places can't stack up to this area in terms of culture