What Have You Personally Witnessed/Experienced To Make You Shun PG County?? (Baltimore: crime, credit card)

[ChocLot]

[quote=fishfister;2665967]

I find those that want to tear down the county and start over again - as seen on other threads - to be the most disturbing things I have seen. The majority of them are black.

I agree with you on this. I'm AA, so I LOVE seeing the Black race progress, however, I abhor the elitist attitude that many take. Once reaching a certain level of economic success, the general attitude is to separate from the "undesirables". I find it quite sad...of course, that has been a phenomenon since our history in this country. (Ex: those attempting to "pass" and abandoning their Black families, the superiority exhibited by lighter-complexioned Blacks, etc).

Crime? You can go to KC or Denver and see the same crime - maybe not at the same percentage rates but I place that blame on the state and county governments.

I agree. And also the parents. I truly believe that they're 95% of the problem.
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[emsgoof]

Originally Posted by ChocLot

I don't discredit your experiences, but the tone of your reply is a bit off-putting and nothing (because your EMS call which is likely to occur in any area where's there's a victim that's been shot [if that was the case]), suggests harm to your physical well-being.

No, it had NOTHING to do with a shooting in the area. We're not stupid, we take actions to protect ourselves. If the call is for a shooting, we don't even leave the station until the police have the scene under control. It was a "sick person" call. PG is the only area I've worked where we had kevlar vests on the ambulances. That was only one call, I have been shot at at least a dozen times. Never has it been for a violent crime call.
Blame the parents all you want, but again, I've never experienced this anywhere else in my 11 years of emergency service work - not Baltimore City (which I despise), DC, ANYWHERE. So yes, to me it is indicative of Prince George's County.
Yes, all of my EMS calls were PERSONALLY experienced. After a few thousand, with only a very small percentage being "drug related", I can safely say that most of the injuries people do to each other are simply because they are on the same level as animals, with no respect for other people. Again, I've only ever experienced that large an amount of that type of behavior in Prince Georges County.

And don't come on and immediately try to put a disclaimer on your statement. You WERE trying to discredit my PERSONAL EXPERIENCE because it doesn't agree with your utopian views of PeeGee County.

[ChocLot]

Originally Posted by emsgoof

No, it had NOTHING to do with a shooting in the area. We're not stupid, we take actions to protect ourselves. If the call is for a shooting, we don't even leave the station until the police have the scene under control. It was a "sick person" call. PG is the only area I've worked where we had kevlar vests on the ambulances. That was only one call, I have been shot at at least a dozen times. Never has it been for a violent crime call.
Blame the parents all you want, but again, I've never experienced this anywhere else in my 11 years of emergency service work - not Baltimore City (which I despise), DC, ANYWHERE. So yes, to me it is indicative of Prince George's County.
Yes, all of my EMS calls were PERSONALLY experienced. After a few thousand, with only a very small percentage being "drug related", I can safely say that most of the injuries people do to each other are simply because they are on the same level as animals, with no respect for other people. Again, I've only ever experienced that large an amount of that type of behavior in Prince Georges County.

And don't come on and immediately try to put a disclaimer on your statement. You WERE trying to discredit my PERSONAL EXPERIENCE because it doesn't agree with your utopian views of PeeGee County.

In your profession, I wouldn't consider your experiences out of the ordinary. You work in an atmosphere that can often times involve violent crime. (Really, who needs an EMS unless they're injured, hurt, sick, etc?). So, just like police officers, firemen, etc, you work in a profession where there is the possibility of harm. Again, I don't blame the county. Your experiences WOULD seem out of the ordinary IF they didn't involve your profession.

ps. Your deliberate butchering of the county's name speaks of your maturity. Perhaps your attitude plays a part in your life experiences?

[jessy0780]

Originally Posted by kjg1963

Jessy, I would never dismiss your experiences and then tell you how wonderful PG is. I myself have just never lived those things here. However, I would never live in the area that you do. In the early 90's I lived in Riverdale Heights. The area wasn't too bad at that time, but once I had kids I knew I did not want to live in Riverdale, New Carrollton, or Hyattsville. There are definitely good and bad areas of PG. For self preservation, I try to live in the better areas.

It does make me really sad, I'll always think of New Carrollton as my hometown, and it's gotten so bad that many people from my old neighborhood are moving away. My family and some of the older families in the neighborhood are still there, and I hate the thought of everyone moving away now that the kids are all older, and the area has gotten iffy. My grandparents bought that house in 1963, they're one of the oldest families on the street. It's their home, I don't think they can imagine living anywhere else, I hope things start looking up soon.

[jessy0780]

Originally Posted by SectumSempra

I grew up in Fort Washington and felt very safe. But oh yeah.. Ft Wash is one of the safer areas of PG County..... howveer I went to high school with the kids from the worser areas (Oxon Hill for example). But in any case, I was in these areas all the time (family and friends in all these areas) and never experienced anything bad. I've never seen any robberies, drug deals, etc. The only incident i can recall was someone breaking into our house and taking my mom's jewelry out of her jewelry box. But guess what? They caught the burglar.... and the burlgar was WHITE. So for yall wanting to get all racist, crime isn't a "black thing."

Currently I live in New Carrollton, and while I have heard several times that New Carrollton is rough, I have yet to see, hear or personally experience anything bad. I walk to the grocery store down the street and have often walked to the New Carrollton Metro station at night during the summer and have not experienced any probems whatsoever. And yes there are several whites where I live and they don't complain at all....

I'm glad to hear that and I hope it continues to go well for you in NC.

[fishfister]

A lot of crime could be prevented if people would intervene and call the cops on those they know are the criminal element.
What does that mean?? Criminals run their mouths to someone because they want to share the rush of the excitement of the crime with another - usually a girlfriend or friend. They can't contain it forever.

I lived in Texas years ago and I called the cops or alerted neighbors to crimes that I saw taking place. One time I was approached by a fellow who told me I almost got his younger brother arrested when I reported someone vandalizing my neighbor's car across the street. I told him I could do worse next time.
The local gangs there ran around spray painting people's houses who lived on the corners of blocks to mark their territory. I had a secret wish to be sitting in a chair with a shotgun at one of those houses during that time.
Any criminal that attempts anything here is going to be sorry unless I am dead. I have no tolerance for B&E or property damage.

How many times have you seen juvenile delinquents accused of heinous crimes and their families defend them by saying they are good boys/girls who would never do such acts?

Somebody knows who the perpetrator is in every crime but won't come forth. Protecting that person(s) is not helping the suspect or the community. That action further enables the criminal aspect by giving the criminal a safety net to fall into when arrested and let go because of some loop in the court system.
Sure, it may be your's or your neighbor's relatives but, crime can only be stopped if it is reported. Allow it to continue and you are the same as the criminal.

Blame your neighbors or yourself when the perpetrators are known and family/friends don't give them up.

[Tom Lennox 70]

Jessy....wow if seems like EVERYTHING happened to you. My experiences....I lived in PG County for 4 years when going to school in College Park. I lived on the campus.

- My wallet was stolen from the gym on campus.

- My credit card was stolen from the counter of the Wawa's in College Park one night after I left the bars. Granted I was drunk but that doesn't make it right for whoever stole my card to do it.

- My mom was in an accident in Langley Park on University Blvd (MD 193). The other driver was an illegal without insurance. While our insurance company paid for it b/c the cops said the illegal was at fault, they never found the illegal.

- My mom used to have an illegal co-worker who boasted about how he and his friends always went to PG General Hospital for free treatment. Thanks to the illegals the hospital I believe was privatized.

- Whenever I drive through Langley Park or parts of Greenbelt, there are so many illegals, I feel like I am in Tijuana or San Salvador, and a bad part of Tijuana to be exact.

- My friend was robbed at gunpoint in College Park on campus just outside Alleghany Hall.

- I get crime reports in the email all the time when I was a student. There are regular carjackings and armed robberies on campus, and drug-related shootings near the campus.

- My friend from Hyattsville todl me a story once about how criminals stole a tow truck, then used the tow truck to steal cars from somewhere in Hyattsville.

- The crowd that gets on the Green Line trains is the most ghetto (this definition also includes illegals) of all the Metro lines and the Green Line serves PG County on both ends. The Orange line toward New Carrollton adn the Blue LIne toward Largo is also very ghetto and I have seen fights and arguments there. To be fair though, the Silver Spring and Wheaton end of the Metro Red Line is also very ghetto but not quite as ghetto.

- MS-13, the most violent gang in the US, has a heavy presence in College Park.

- Cops have shown up in my dorm building asking if a suspected drug dealer had been there trying to sell weed.

[Tom Lennox 70]

I've heard the nicer areas of PGC are Accokeek, the areas by Charles and Anne Arundel Counties, Laurel, and Bowie.

[lscalder]

Originally Posted by Terrapin2212

Jessy....wow if seems like EVERYTHING happened to you. My experiences....I lived in PG County for 4 years when going to school in College Park. I lived on the campus.

- My wallet was stolen from the gym on campus.

- My credit card was stolen from the counter of the Wawa's in College Park one night after I left the bars. Granted I was drunk but that doesn't make it right for whoever stole my card to do it.

- My mom was in an accident in Langley Park on University Blvd (MD 193). The other driver was an illegal without insurance. While our insurance company paid for it b/c the cops said the illegal was at fault, they never found the illegal.

- My mom used to have an illegal co-worker who boasted about how he and his friends always went to PG General Hospital for free treatment. Thanks to the illegals the hospital I believe was privatized.

- Whenever I drive through Langley Park or parts of Greenbelt, there are so many illegals, I feel like I am in Tijuana or San Salvador, and a bad part of Tijuana to be exact.

- My friend was robbed at gunpoint in College Park on campus just outside Alleghany Hall.

- I get crime reports in the email all the time when I was a student. There are regular carjackings and armed robberies on campus, and drug-related shootings near the campus.

- My friend from Hyattsville todl me a story once about how criminals stole a tow truck, then used the tow truck to steal cars from somewhere in Hyattsville.

- The crowd that gets on the Green Line trains is the most ghetto (this definition also includes illegals) of all the Metro lines and the Green Line serves PG County on both ends. The Orange line toward New Carrollton adn the Blue LIne toward Largo is also very ghetto and I have seen fights and arguments there. To be fair though, the Silver Spring and Wheaton end of the Metro Red Line is also very ghetto but not quite as ghetto.

- MS-13, the most violent gang in the US, has a heavy presence in College Park.

- Cops have shown up in my dorm building asking if a suspected drug dealer had been there trying to sell weed.

Thats why its not good to get drunk. If you leave your wallet any where it will get stolen. You left it in a bar, where people come and go. No MS13 are mostly in Montgomery and VA. Illegals are everywhere maybe you need to tell these wealthy people who live in million dollar homes to stop hiring illegals then maybe they will stop coming to America. Your wallet was stolen from a gym and you think it was Pg county's fault. Illegals goign to hospitals for treatment is an American issue this is happening all over America not only Pg county.

These events can happen anywhere.

I no longer go to City Place Mall in Montgomery county. I saw a man jump to his death from the 5th floor.

[Alanboy395]

Originally Posted by lscalder

Thats why its not good to get drunk. If you leave your wallet any where it will get stolen. You left it in a bar, where people come and go. No MS13 are mostly in Montgomery and VA. Illegals are everywhere maybe you need to tell these wealthy people who live in million dollar homes to stop hiring illegals then maybe they will stop coming to America. Your wallet was stolen from a gym and you think it was Pg county's fault. Illegals goign to hospitals for treatment is an American issue this is happening all over America not only Pg county.

These events can happen anywhere.

I no longer go to City Place Mall in Montgomery county. I saw a man jump to his death from the 5th floor.

I can testify for the illegals and the MS-13 being in VA. If you haven't, you should see all the graffiti when you get off south 395 to 236 E. Ever since Alexandria became a sanctuary city it seems like the cops are responding to calls in my neighborhood more and more.

Also in 04 my wallet got stolen off a school bus in Alexandria. The bus was mostly hispanic riders, BUT i'll bet my paycheck it would had happened if the bus was mostly white, AA, indian, african, etc. In America, NEVER leave your wallet out, IT WILL be stolen.

I dont blame you for being mad at PG b/c of the unacceptable crime you've seen firsthand, but believe me PG ISN'T the only place in the DC area that has trouble with crime and illegals.