Proof that Maryland is NORTHERN??? (Baltimore: live in, military, vs.)

[InchingWest]

Originally Posted by ialmostforgot

Thanks for your response!!! I really wanted some honest proof instead of someone just "wanting" Baltimore to be northern.

Most native born Marylanders will tell you something similar to what Goldenage1 posted.

Baltimore is just like a Northern city. Carroll through Cecil counties resemble the Pennsylvania countryside with smallish towns between farms and forests. Our 4 westernmost counties are culturally linked to West Virginia.

Southern Maryland south of Annapolis and outside the DC burbs has a lot in common with Virginia & North Carolina. The Eastern Shore is a lot like Delaware, although the extreme south of the ES has some Virginia characteristics.

Central Maryland has it's own character and is a mix of everything with a little bit of horse country mixed in.

There is a distinct difference (to many astute natives) between being located north of or south of the Fall Line. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_line North and west of it tended to be more industrial. South and east of it is called "the tidewater" and was traditionally linked with the plantation South. Affinities and sympathies inside of Maryland for either side of the Civil War largely followed the Fall Line.

[tcave360]

Originally Posted by InchingWest

Most native born Marylanders will tell you something similar to what Goldenage1 posted.

Baltimore is just like a Northern city. Carroll through Cecil counties resemble the Pennsylvania countryside with smallish towns between farms and forests. Our 4 westernmost counties are culturally linked to West Virginia.

Southern Maryland south of Annapolis and outside the DC burbs has a lot in common with Virginia & North Carolina. The Eastern Shore is a lot like Delaware, although the extreme south of the ES has some Virginia characteristics.

Central Maryland has it's own character and is a mix of everything with a little bit of horse country mixed in.

There is a distinct difference (to many astute natives) between being located north of or south of the Fall Line. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_line North and west of it tended to be more industrial. South and east of it is called "the tidewater" and was traditionally linked with the plantation South. Affinities and sympathies inside of Maryland for either side of the Civil War largely followed the Fall Line.

Solid post

[hobbesdj]

Originally Posted by JackParow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZzUD0jx0iY

I hear the distant thunder-hum,
Maryland!The Old Line's bugle, fife, and drum,
Maryland!She is not dead, nor deaf, nor dumb-Huzza!
she spurns the Northern scum!
She breathes! she burns! she'll come! she'll come!
Maryland! My Maryland!

Originally Posted by Infinite_heights77

*That is funny!!! This says a lot about the mindset of folks in this area during that particular time in history which has been passed down throughout the ages.

That song was written by a guy in Louisiana, which is conveniently forgotten by wanna-be southerners in Maryland.

[westsideboy]

Originally Posted by hobbesdj

That song was written by a guy in Louisiana, which is conveniently forgotten by wanna-be southerners in Maryland.

Randall was born in Baltimore, a Marylander by birth who wrote the song after his friend from Randallstown was killed in the Baltimore Riot......you know....when native Marylanders from Baltimore attacked Northern troops coming into the city.

The song quotes another Maryland native, John Wilkes Booth, you know.....the guy that supported the Southern cause so much he killed the President?

[U146]

Originally Posted by InchingWest

Most native born Marylanders will tell you something similar to what Goldenage1 posted.

Baltimore is just like a Northern city. Carroll through Cecil counties resemble the Pennsylvania countryside with smallish towns between farms and forests. Our 4 westernmost counties are culturally linked to West Virginia.

Southern Maryland south of Annapolis and outside the DC burbs has a lot in common with Virginia & North Carolina. The Eastern Shore is a lot like Delaware, although the extreme south of the ES has some Virginia characteristics.

Central Maryland has it's own character and is a mix of everything with a little bit of horse country mixed in.

There is a distinct difference (to many astute natives) between being located north of or south of the Fall Line. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_line North and west of it tended to be more industrial. South and east of it is called "the tidewater" and was traditionally linked with the plantation South. Affinities and sympathies inside of Maryland for either side of the Civil War largely followed the Fall Line.

Maryland's western most counties have the most in common with Southwest Pennsylvania and Northern West Virginia, neither regions happen to be Southern. Baltimore is a Northern city by modern standards. Central Maryland has Southern influences but is still more mid-Atlantic/Northeast then Southern. The only parts of Maryland which are truly Southern are Southern Maryland and the Eastern shore.

[U146]

Originally Posted by westsideboy

Randall was born in Baltimore, a Marylander by birth who wrote the song after his friend from Randallstown was killed in the Baltimore Riot......you know....when native Marylanders from Baltimore attacked Northern troops coming into the city.

The song quotes another Maryland native, John Wilkes Booth, you know.....the guy that supported the Southern cause so much he killed the President?

Maryland was a conflicted state during the Civil War. Not all Baltimoreans supported the Confederacy. Maryland supplied many more troops to the Union then to the Confederacy.

[westsideboy]

Originally Posted by U146

Maryland was a conflicted state during the Civil War. Not all Baltimoreans supported the Confederacy. Maryland supplied many more troops to the Union then to the Confederacy.

I supplied the information to counter the false claim that the writer of our state anthem wasn't from Maryland. Nothing more, nothing less.

[ameme234]

Northern Southern Mid Atlantic.

[hobbesdj]

Originally Posted by westsideboy

Randall was born in Baltimore, a Marylander by birth who wrote the song after his friend from Randallstown was killed in the Baltimore Riot......you know....when native Marylanders from Baltimore attacked Northern troops coming into the city.

The song quotes another Maryland native, John Wilkes Booth, you know.....the guy that supported the Southern cause so much he killed the President?

He was in Louisiana when he wrote this, as he relocated there. Nothing that I said was incorrect. Notice I didn't say that he was born and raised in Louisiana.

Originally Posted by U146

Maryland was a conflicted state during the Civil War. Not all Baltimoreans supported the Confederacy. Maryland supplied many more troops to the Union then to the Confederacy.

True, and in fact, the vast majority of Baltimore voters voted to end slavery in 1864, helping to make Maryland the last state to do so by popular vote. Hardly the trait of a pro-Confederate group, as the southern states only abolished slavery due to the force of the US army. By democratically voting to end slavery, Marylanders are up there with all of those evil "Yankee" states that some try so desperately to distance themselves from.

[westsideboy]

Originally Posted by hobbesdj

He was in Louisiana when he wrote this, as he relocated there. Nothing that I said was incorrect. Notice I didn't say that he was born and raised in Louisiana.



True, and in fact, the vast majority of Baltimore voters voted to end slavery in 1864, helping to make Maryland the last state to do so by popular vote. Hardly the trait of a pro-Confederate group, as the southern states only abolished slavery due to the force of the US army. By democratically voting to end slavery, Marylanders are up there with all of those evil "Yankee" states that some try so desperately to distance themselves from.

You know very well what the intent of your post was; to distance that song from the state of Maryland and its residents. You failed.

The good thing is that cheap attempts to deflect away historic truths are easily refuted. Our state song was written by a Marylander motivated by a dead friend of his who was a Marylander killed by union troops in Maryland.