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Old 06-08-2018, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Cumberland
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I agree, I don't think it ever will. Its much like a lot of PA, lost in time, and too remote in a lot of cases. Its nice looking and has recreation, but that's about it.
I love living here. It is a great community with a lot of advantages that include recreation, and scenic beauty but also extend to a lack of congestion and traffic, cheap housing prices and lower cost of living, walkable towns, and a sense of identity that comes from being a community where people have lived, worked, worshiped, and played together for generations.

What you see as "lost in time" is actually people with deep historical connections each other, and the land they live on. This is a very different mentality that what you find in most of Maryland.

I am hopeful the job situation improves here, but with CSX laying off so much of their workforce, it looks like we will sink a big deeper on this issue before it gets better.
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Old 06-08-2018, 08:46 AM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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I am hopeful the job situation improves here, but...
I read recently that the old Kelly Springfield plant will be used to grow marijuana.
What 'growth' exists or is likely to come seems to offer very limited employment.
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Old 06-08-2018, 08:56 AM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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I love living here. It is a great community with a lot of advantages that include recreation, and scenic beauty but also extend to a lack of congestion and traffic, cheap housing prices and lower cost of living, walkable towns, and a sense of identity that comes from being a community where people have lived, worked, worshiped, and played together for generations.

What you see as "lost in time" is actually people with deep historical connections each other, and the land they live on. This is a very different mentality that what you find in most of Maryland.

I am hopeful the job situation improves here, but with CSX laying off so much of their workforce, it looks like we will sink a big deeper on this issue before it gets better.
What you have generally with people, in my experience, who talk about "lost in time" are primarily urbanists who have limited experience with rural/small town areas.

You see this constantly when people talk about mass transit, commuting, walkable areas, shopping, restaurant and coffee shoppe experiences, etc. and don't seem to understand that low population rural areas, no matter the SES, can't usually support those things.

https://www.keepcalvertcountry.com/

A group I was a member of 30+ years ago before I became a member of the "Establishment". It went away for about 20 years but recently was rejuvenated by a new generation.

https://www.keepcalvertcountry.com/

There are some inside baseball political things about it that I, from a position outside looking in, by choice since they did contact me when it was starting again, find hilarious.
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Old 06-08-2018, 08:58 AM
 
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I love living here. It is a great community with a lot of advantages that include recreation, and scenic beauty but also extend to a lack of congestion and traffic, cheap housing prices and lower cost of living, walkable towns, and a sense of identity that comes from being a community where people have lived, worked, worshiped, and played together for generations.

What you see as "lost in time" is actually people with deep historical connections each other, and the land they live on. This is a very different mentality that what you find in most of Maryland.

I am hopeful the job situation improves here, but with CSX laying off so much of their workforce, it looks like we will sink a big deeper on this issue before it gets better.


No, No, not a slam on it. I like it out there myself, and do like the lost in time theme of it, but for working etc ..... I don't see it. Where you at? I like Garret County at DCL. I still can't get a vibe on where you go for healthcare if you're a senior though. I know they have a hospital and that but how good is it? specialist etc ...
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Old 06-08-2018, 09:01 AM
 
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What you have generally with people, in my experience, who talk about "lost in time" are primarily urbanists who have limited experience with rural/small town areas.

You see this constantly when people talk about mass transit, commuting, walkable areas, shopping, restaurant and coffee shoppe experiences, etc. and don't seem to understand that low population rural areas, no matter the SES, can't usually support those things.

https://www.keepcalvertcountry.com/

A group I was a member of 30+ years ago before I became a member of the "Establishment". It went away for about 20 years but recently was rejuvenated by a new generation.

https://www.keepcalvertcountry.com/

There are some inside baseball political things about it that I, from a position outside looking in, by choice since they did contact me when it was starting again, find hilarious.


I like that keepcalvertcountry, hope they do that with south Anne Arundel.
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Old 06-08-2018, 09:10 AM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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I like that keepcalvertcountry, hope they do that with south Anne Arundel.
Southern Anne Arundel was designated a rural tier quite awhile ago. Much of the land is in Ag or Forest Preservation.

You will see some growth around places like Galesville (no more waterfront being made) but what really constrains development is lack of central water and sewer. And that was dealt with when Counties had to adopt sewer tiers a few years ago.
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Old 06-08-2018, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Cumberland
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I read recently that the old Kelly Springfield plant will be used to grow marijuana.
What 'growth' exists or is likely to come seems to offer very limited employment.
Agreed. The days of hoping a few big employers show up and employ 100s of people are gone. The recovery will be small business, telecommuting, niche industry, and stuff I am sure I can not predict.

We probably aren't going to be a community of 90k unless/until high speed transit makes living here/working there viable. We have a shot at being a stable community of 65k or so though. It is really tough sledding right now though. CSX just laid off 100 workers. We all expect more layoffs are coming.
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Old 06-08-2018, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Cumberland
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No, No, not a slam on it. I like it out there myself, and do like the lost in time theme of it, but for working etc ..... I don't see it. Where you at? I like Garret County at DCL. I still can't get a vibe on where you go for healthcare if you're a senior though. I know they have a hospital and that but how good is it? specialist etc ...
Ok, I remembered your slams against PA and WV, both of which are far more like my community than the rest of Maryland, and wasn't sure what you meant.

I live in Cumberland, prefer not to say where I work. I make a good living for the area, but my income would not go far most places downstate.

Deep Creek folks generally look west to Morgantown for their commercial and medical needs, although some in Garrett County come to Cumberland. Ruby Memorial and other WVU affiliated health care options are outstanding by any standards I have seen measured. Cumberland has a new hospital, probably 10 years old now, and decent health care for a community our size. Not great, but fine for routine stuff.
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Old 06-14-2018, 11:35 PM
 
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It's funny that I never hear Baltimore County mentioned. The wealth in the northern third of the county, and parts of Towson/Lutherville/Hunt Valley/Pikesville, etc. is quite impressive.
You mean Cockeysville........but I always find this funny. The east side of the County is what drags it down. All of Dulaney Valley is choice. West Towson, North, and West Cockeysville (Hunt Valley is a made up name, always has been) Lutherville, and Timonium. Loch Raven......
And check the population numbers. You will be surprised how many people live in Cockeysville.

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Old 06-14-2018, 11:54 PM
 
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From MAR 2018, MD is ranked number ten out of all the US states for best GDP/GDP growth and DC is ranked number one (number one being the best in the USA) not bad!

Every US state economy ranked from worst to best - Business Insider
My Father's wife is from Nebraska just outside Omaha. She came to Maryland in the late 70's, and has said many times no thanks to returning. Although my Father, and her do visit her family there.

I will have to leave Maryland eventually. Just to damn expensive. And I really don't want to. But I will have to.
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