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View Poll Results: Who are you voting for governor?
Hogan 22 59.46%
Jealous 9 24.32%
Undecided but will vote 3 8.11%
Don't plan on voting 3 8.11%
Voters: 37. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-27-2018, 07:50 PM
 
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I admittedly don't know much about Ben Jealous, other than he use to be with the NAACP. I wonder how people on the fence will feel about him.
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Old 06-27-2018, 08:02 PM
 
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“Former NAACP chief Ben Jealous won Maryland’s Democratic primary for governor Tuesday, promising to deliver a progressive agenda that makes college free, legalizes marijuana and raises the state’s minimum wage to $15 an hour.”

Ben Jealous wins Maryland Democratic primary race for governor - Baltimore Sun
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Old 06-27-2018, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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“Former NAACP chief Ben Jealous won Maryland’s Democratic primary for governor Tuesday, promising to deliver a progressive agenda that makes college free, legalizes marijuana and raises the state’s minimum wage to $15 an hour.”

Ben Jealous wins Maryland Democratic primary race for governor - Baltimore Sun
This sentence tells me all I need to know to explain why I'm voting for Hogan. There are plenty of other reasons, but this is sufficient unto itself.
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Old 06-27-2018, 08:42 PM
 
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It'll be interesting to see. In a normal year, Hogan would be a clear favorite - even in Maryland. The question is whether he's sufficiently convinced people to ignore the "R" next to his name when a gigantic percentage of Marylanders find Donald J. Trump repugnant. I'm in that boat with a lot of moderates; I think Hogan deserves reelection, but I'm not sure if I'm able to bring myself to pull the lever for any Republican considering the national party has become synonymous with moral decay.
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Old 06-28-2018, 08:50 AM
 
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Typical of the Socialist/Communist party of America, The Democrats! So how is this clown going to pay for all of this? Medicare for everybody, Gov supplying raising the state min wage to 15 hour etc ???? He would be a better fit in Cuba or Venezuela! Hogan all the way! I can't see Hogan losing, and why do people call them progressives? They're the exact opposite of that. Like stated before, they're Socialists and closet Communists, just like Obama!
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Old 06-28-2018, 09:11 AM
 
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“former naacp chief ben jealous won maryland’s democratic primary for governor tuesday, promising to deliver a progressive agenda that makes college free, legalizes marijuana and raises the state’s minimum wage to $15 an hour.”

ben jealous wins maryland democratic primary race for governor - baltimore sun
think about this. Politicians can say anything they want and they are not held accountable. It all sounds too good to be true. How is he going to do all he says he is going to do ? By when ? At what cost to the middle class (the individuals who have to work for a living). What other politicians have to agree with what he is doing ? And so on.
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Old 06-28-2018, 09:19 AM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Typical of the Socialist/Communist party of America, The Democrats! So how is this clown going to pay for all of this? Medicare for everybody, Gov supplying raising the state min wage to 15 hour etc ???? He would be a better fit in Cuba or Venezuela! Hogan all the way! I can't see Hogan losing, and why do people call them progressives? They're the exact opposite of that. Like stated before, they're Socialists and closet Communists, just like Obama!
Hogan can and very well might lose because of this:

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It'll be interesting to see. In a normal year, Hogan would be a clear favorite - even in Maryland. The question is whether he's sufficiently convinced people to ignore the "R" next to his name when a gigantic percentage of Marylanders find Donald J. Trump repugnant. I'm in that boat with a lot of moderates; I think Hogan deserves reelection, but I'm not sure if I'm able to bring myself to pull the lever for any Republican considering the national party has become synonymous with moral decay.

The exact playbook O'Malley used against Ehrlich, and Cardin used against Steele for the Senate. Tie the opposition to an unpopular in the State President.

Not really about policy because, to be quite honest, about 95% of Jealous' platform will be DOA when it hits the Legislature even with Democrats in the majority.
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Old 06-28-2018, 09:33 AM
 
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It'll be interesting to see. In a normal year, Hogan would be a clear favorite - even in Maryland. The question is whether he's sufficiently convinced people to ignore the "R" next to his name when a gigantic percentage of Marylanders find Donald J. Trump repugnant. I'm in that boat with a lot of moderates; I think Hogan deserves reelection, but I'm not sure if I'm able to bring myself to pull the lever for any Republican considering the national party has become synonymous with moral decay.
I'm in the same boat. With a few exceptions, I think he's done a great job being a moderating influence in the state's power balance. He also breaks with Trump on every issue that's worth breaking from his administration on. However, his party is taking our country (and presumed leader of said party) to a place that it will be hard to recover from. While I approved of Hogan's performance as governor, I'm not sure I can endorse his governorship with a vote due to his party associations.

Ben Jealous's platform is also something that Hogan will probably get done (or already has done) on his own if he wins another term. Hogan signed a bill already for free Community College starting in 2019, legalized marijuana is likely to gain a push from the Trump administration (as recently signaled) around reelection which will clear the way for state legalization regardless or whether Hogan wins, and Hogan will likely meet the state legislator halfway to get either a staggered minimum wage increase to $15 or a few dollars up from where it is now.

I'm a democrat and support a progressive agenda, but not an the expense of economic development, transportation improvements, and controlled tax burden. Ben Jealous needs to come to a center a bit to even have a chance, and I don't think he's interested in doing so.
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Old 06-28-2018, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Cumberland
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I'm voting for Hogan.........but I suspect you all already knew that.

The only other thing I will add is that if you are strongly anti-Trump, it helps to vote for moderate GOP candidates if you support their policies. If moderates of either party can't win, they will disappear from the political landscape, and we are all left with only the radicals. I think this is a national trend, look at what happened in New York on Tuesday. I hope it doesn't play out in Maryland, but it isn't really up to me.

I know it isn't an easy decision. I think I have expressed questions on this board about how I could personally ever vote for a Democrat based on where they are headed as a national party, but I am forcing myself to keep Cardin in consideration. No, he doesn't need my vote and I am about the polar opposite of him politically, but he excels in constitute service, and shows up in Western Maryland a lot and stumps hard for us despite not getting many votes here. I admire that.
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Old 06-28-2018, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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think about this. Politicians can say anything they want and they are not held accountable. It all sounds too good to be true. How is he going to do all he says he is going to do ? By when ? At what cost to the middle class (the individuals who have to work for a living). What other politicians have to agree with what he is doing ? And so on.
According to today's Baltimore Sun, here's how he will pay for it all:

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His ambitious proposals, he said, will be funded with hundreds of millions of dollars in cuts from the prison system once he ends "mass incarceration."
In other words, he's going to release a bunch of criminals back into our midst.

Mr. Jealous isn't merely misguided; he's downright dangerous. I hope that enough Marylanders have the good sense to make sure he doesn't get anywhere near Annapolis.
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