White Flight in Bowie?! (Columbia, Bethesda: 2009, car insurance, to buy)

[TuborgP]

Ok if PG is so affluent is there the normal correlation between wealth and school performance. Being so wealthy as is being claimed should make them one of the top districts in America since performance so correlates with wealth in public schools. Yes? No?

[live_strong28]

Originally Posted by TuborgP

Just wondering. If PG is so affluent why do they need so much Thornton money for the schools? Where does PG rank in per capita poverty compared to other Maryland counties and Northern Virginia? Is there affluence reasonably distributed or are there enclaves of wealth or poverty and if so which is larger?

The majority of PG's wealth is either based on entrepreneurship, professionals (lawyers and doctors) in county that serve PG residents, and/or dual incomes from government jobs. The enclave of wealth is located in the Bowie area. Most of the areas inside the beltway are low income with high crime.

Approximately 65% of the people who live in PG Cty have to leave the county for work. The hospital system is the worst due to the high demand of services from residents who have no health insurance/are in poverty.

PG derives most of its budget money from the backs of its citizens. Relatively speaking, there are few white collar jobs in PG, and there are no major corporations that call PG its home base despite how plentiful land is and how accessible a majority of the area is to the subway.

Because of this, that is why the property taxes are so high, and both the County government and school leaders are known for incompetence and cronyism.

[cool rob]

Originally Posted by live_strong28

The majority of PG's wealth is either based on entrepreneurship, professionals (lawyers and doctors) in county that serve PG residents, and/or dual incomes from government jobs. The enclave of wealth is located in the Bowie area. Most of the areas inside the beltway are low income with high crime.

Approximately 65% of the people who live in PG Cty have to leave the county for work. The hospital system is the worst due to the high demand of services from residents who have no health insurance/are in poverty.

PG derives most of its budget money from the backs of its citizens. Relatively speaking, there are few white collar jobs in PG, and there are no major corporations that call PG its home base despite how plentiful land is and how accessible a majority of the area is to the subway.

Because of this, that is why the property taxes are so high, and both the County government and school leaders are known for incompetence and cronyism.

You really need to get a life. truth. Your personal vendetta against Prince George's County at first was amusing, but now it is sad. Please seek professional help, life can be so much better

[live_strong28]

Originally Posted by cool rob

You really need to get a life. truth. Your personal vendetta against Prince George's County at first was amusing, but now it is sad. Please seek professional help, life can be so much better

If you can't handle the facts, then that's your issue.

If you choose to bury your head in the sand, again, that's your choice.

[live_strong28]

No matter who posts the data, it doesn't change the fact that the data is correct.

If people can't handle the truth, they should move out of PG.

Find some other area with better schools, better jobs, less crime, better governance, etc.

[bowian]

Originally Posted by live_strong28

No matter who posts the data, it doesn't change the fact that the data is correct.

If people can't handle the truth, they should move out of PG.

Find some other area with better schools, better jobs, less crime, better governance, etc.

Why are you so vested in insisting that we listen to "the truth?" People are telling you they are not interested. So, then, who are you trying to convince now?

There are people who, despite all that you have to say, want to live in PG and do live in PG. And will continue to live in PG. Maybe that is a truth that YOU cannot handle. Therefore, you hide behind your data and your first amendment rights. Folks live where they live, and most of the time they want to be there. Be happy whereever you live, and stop obsessing over PG's "woes."

[live_strong28]

Originally Posted by bowian

Why are you so vested in insisting that we listen to "the truth?" People are telling you they are not interested. So, then, who are you trying to convince now?

There are people who, despite all that you have to say, want to live in PG and do live in PG. And will continue to live in PG. Maybe that is a truth that YOU cannot handle. Therefore, you hide behind your data and your first amendment rights. Folks live where they live, and most of the time they want to be there. Be happy whereever you live, and stop obsessing over PG's "woes."

Sorry, you got it all wrong. I'm not initiating debates. I'm responding to innaccurate information posted on this blog.

You have people like Iscalder making posts that Bowie is just as aflluent as other areas in the WMA, until I posted data that pretty much squashed her argument. Then, she got personal with me.

She's the type that can't handle the truth.

If people like to live in PG, fine. PG and its people can stay in their own little world, but when you have people spreading ignorance that PG is just as good as any other county in the WMA, well guess what? They be wrong. Flat wrong.

[cpterp]

PG isn't as bad as some make it out to be. Yeah, the county on a whole doesn't stack up against Montgomery, Howard, Charles, or Calvert (the latter two which have benefitted immesenly from wealthy former PG residents moving to their respective counties) as well as the counties across the river. That said there are specific enclaves of PG County that are very nice, and very affluent and the county is the wealthiest minority-majority county in the nation. Fort Washington, Largo, Bowie, Mitchellville, Lanham-Seabrook are just a few of the wealthy enclaves located in the county. Northern PG County is also very liveable in places such as Beltsville, Greenbelt, Laurel, and College Park. There are also some excellent schools in the county. A thread I posted earlier noted that 6 PGC schools made Newsweek's list of top American High Schools.

[live_strong28]

Originally Posted by cpterp

PG isn't as bad as some make it out to be. Yeah, the county on a whole doesn't stack up against Montgomery, Howard, Charles, or Calvert (the latter two which have benefitted immesenly from wealthy former PG residents moving to their respective counties) as well as the counties across the river. That said there are specific enclaves of PG County that are very nice, and very affluent and the county is the wealthiest minority-majority county in the nation. Fort Washington, Largo, Bowie, Mitchellville, Lanham-Seabrook are just a few of the wealthy enclaves located in the county. Northern PG County is also very liveable in places such as Beltsville, Greenbelt, Laurel, and College Park. There are also some excellent schools in the county. A thread I posted earlier noted that 6 PGC schools made Newsweek's list of top American High Schools.

A lot of the former residents of people who fled to Charles and Calvert were also lower income. They fled because they couldn't pay the ridiculous PG taxes anymore and were looking for more affordable housing and better schools and a better life for their family with less crime. A negative resulted in that crime has picked up in Charles County also during this influx of PG residents.

The question about these "wealthy" enclaves in PG is why the schools are still average and the median housing prices are still very low comparatively speaking to other "affluent" areas in other counties. Don't believe the Newsweek rankings because they are based on a very flawed Jay Mathews ranking methodology that only factors in the # of AP's taken divided by the # of seniors....nevermind if they pass or flunk. None of the SAT scores from the top PG schools can compare to those in the affluent areas of FFX and MC and HC.

The median price of a home in "affluent" Bowie will run you in the high $300's to low $400's. At that price range, you will find zero SFH's in McLean, Great Falls, Potomac, Bethesda, or Chevy Chase. You wouldn't even be able to buy 1/3 of a comparable house in those areas with $400k.

[RaisedWell]

Originally Posted by TuborgP

Ok if PG is so affluent is there the normal correlation between wealth and school performance. Being so wealthy as is being claimed should make them one of the top districts in America since performance so correlates with wealth in public schools. Yes? No?

The county is not that wealthy. There are some really affluent neighborhoods that are primarily African American and that's it. There are still plenty of poor people here. I'm one of them.

Also as a teacher in the school system here I can tell you that many of our students here are from the District of Columbia. I call my area "SE extended". When all the white people moved into the District and started all the gentrification going on, where do you think all the black people moved. They didn't just disappear into the air.

If you look at the DC forum you will see hundreds of posts regarding gentrified neighborhoods that were once all-black and ghetto. (Petworth, Columbia Heights, H-Street NE, Shaw, U Street, LeDroit Park) It's so strange to see these neighborhoods now and how they've changed.