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06-27-2009, 09:36 PM
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I doubt it.
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LOL!
Utica, NY has about 58,475 in total population as of 2007.
In DC, ~650,000 people travel into DC on a daily basis to work from MD and VA to add to a DC population of 588,292.
The WMA is a busy big city. Utica is not.
Utica is small beans, which is easier to manage during inclimate weather.
Also, the daily high temperature for Utica during the summer is maxed out at 80F during late June.
In DC, the average is easily 10F higher and it can easily hit 95+ humidity, not to mention the poor air quality due to the # of vehicles on the road.
http://www.city-data.com/city/Utica-New-York.html
http://www.city-data.com/city/Washin...-Columbia.html
Don't doubt it...if you do your research, you will believe it. 
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06-28-2009, 07:14 AM
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The snow doesn't stick which is the biggest difference. It's rare to have a snowfall stay on the ground more than a few days. Southern Maryland gets a few tornados now and then, and there are also tropical storms that dump rain along the Eastern Shore and SOMD. If you live on the water you'll experience this quite a bit more than the rest of Maryland.
DC can be quite hot and humid--lots of asphalt and concrete down there which radiates the heat during the icky Summer months. You get a lot of 'pop thunderstorms'--hot and sticky all day, and then about 4:00 PM 'boom' you have 1 hour of monster storms, then it's normal again. Day after day...
Though not scientific, it appears there are 3 'belts' of weather in Maryland. SoMD and the Eastern Shore get whatever was along the Virginia Coast moving north and east. The main belt travels over the DC area and then into Montgomery county and over toward Annapolis/Baltimore. The Western part of the state is in it's own world of weather given the mountains.
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06-28-2009, 01:49 PM
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Utica, NY doesn't have nearly the population density nor the traffic congestion that MD has. If it did, then you'd see the same thing. Also, upstate NY doesn't have the ice storms that this mid-atlantic region has.
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I have to somewhat disagree... I am from Western ,NY and my grandparents were from Utica.. spent many Thanksgivings and Xmas time there.... You are correct,not nearly as congested as MD (where I lived for the past 10 years-just recently relocated again). However,they DO experience very severe ice storms,maybe not as frequently as the Mid-Atlantic,they do.
I remember the March 1990 Ice storm very well,FOURTEEN days of no electricity,inches and inces of ice everywhere. We had no heat of course for all of this time and it was freezing-still snowing after the storm.
So,yes the Mid-Atlantic may have to deal with more frequent icing,of which they are usually ill prepared to do so and most of the time with any type of ice/snow in that area ,everything shuts down so you don't really have to worry about needing to go anywhere anyway's (unless of course there is an emergency).
Western/Central NY are much more prepared for the severe weather then anywhere in MD but I would take the winters in MD any day over the ones in Western NY 
Even the winters in Northern MD don't compare to a mild winter in upstate NY.
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06-28-2009, 01:51 PM
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I doubt it.
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They are correct.Not even a comparison.
The population in Utica ,Watertown and all of the other surroundings up there can't come close to the populations of the DC/VA/MD metro areas...
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06-28-2009, 02:24 PM
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It depends on where in MD you live. But I live in Anne Arundel County and we don't get too much severe weather. There's a bad snow storm every few years or so, but we mostly just get light flurries. People around here tend to flip out at the slightest bit of snow, though. Anne Arundel County Schools are closed pretty much whenever any kind of freezing rain touches the ground. But if you're coming from upstate NY, you've probably seen much worse.
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06-28-2009, 06:47 PM
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Western/Central NY are much more prepared for the severe weather then anywhere in MD but I would take the winters in MD any day over the ones in Western NY 
Even the winters in Northern MD don't compare to a mild winter in upstate NY.
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Yes, they are much more prepared because they have much more snow. That makes sense for their local gov. to invest in more snow equipment/personnel.
In the WMA, we have a lot more roads with many more cars on them and people with a lot of long, bad commutes. All that adds to trouble during inclimate weather if it were to happen.
That is why it's ridiculous for people up north to snub their noses at us down here the way some react because they have no concept of how things are much more complicated down here.
Obama made fun of us when schools closed because of a little snow/ice. Let's see how he fares come August when it's 98F outside with high humidity.
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06-28-2009, 07:04 PM
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I'd much rather have 6 inches of snow on the road than 1/4 inch of ice, which does happen here a lot. Also, many people just don't have the sense to stay home/off the roads until they're cleared so the snow changes to ice after a few cars drive on it. The weather/traffic people on TV and radio don't help mtters by telling people to leave early and get a head start on traffic.
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06-28-2009, 08:07 PM
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I'd much rather have 6 inches of snow on the road than 1/4 inch of ice, which does happen here a lot. Also, many people just don't have the sense to stay home/off the roads until they're cleared so the snow changes to ice after a few cars drive on it. The weather/traffic people on TV and radio don't help mtters by telling people to leave early and get a head start on traffic.
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Because of the population density here compared to Utica, there are just that many more people who have to ferry their kids here and there for after school activities, or to pick them up, after work. Life in the WMA is probably a lot more complicated/involved than in little tiny Utica where the median income for a family is about $33.8k.
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06-28-2009, 08:25 PM
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Because of the population density here compared to Utica, there are just that many more people who have to ferry their kids here and there for after school activities, or to pick them up, after work. Life in the WMA is probably a lot more complicated/involved than in little tiny Utica where the median income for a family is about $33.8k.
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Yeah, maybe for the kids but schools and even the Feds are shut down in bad weather so there shouldn't be that much ferrying to do. Even after Isabel in 2003 we had problems with sightseers getting in the way of cleanup where I live.
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06-28-2009, 08:29 PM
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?? Since when did lower median family income equate to less complicated involved lives? Why would people in Utica not have to drive to work, school, etc. just like people in Maryland? I think the simple truth is if places in Upstate NY closed because of winter weather they would be closed 5 months out of the year.
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