Prince George's County (Baltimore, Bowie, Fort Washington: lawyer, relocate, property taxes)

[lscalder]

Originally Posted by truthhurts

Turborg, you know i have nothing against either Fish or Iscalder. It is not a personal thing. I just think they have extreme view either way. They tend to not stick to the facts.

I'm not trying to put her down. I'm saying she is successful, but i'll stress a 23 that makes 150k a year is much different than a 33 year old that makes 150k a year.

I think as she gets older she'll also realize a mother that is 23 years of age is much different than a mother that is 33 years of age.

However, with Fish i'm not sure how old he is, but he's just so bitter and rightfully so, but he would rather lump us all in one basket and paint us red and call it a day. However, it is just not that simple. What one family experiences in a county with almost 1 million people is going to be totally different than what another family experiences and he cannot seem to get himself pas that reality.

It's like just because you live in a crime infested hell hole does not mean every last person in the county lives in a crime infested hell hole. Example Homeland is a wealthy upscale affluent neighborhood in the city of Baltimore, that has no crime and no real homicide rate, but if you go 3 blocks down the street there's a murder a minute.

In closing every now and then i find myself agreeing with some of what they say, but overall they are far too extreme and militant for me.

I guess next i'll have to start a thread to explain what i mean by militant.

Big props on the Dr. Sowell post. I only wish more minorities went against the status quo and utilized their right to free choose and free thought. The only way to attain true progress is through free thought and challenging old ideas with new one's. The problem is it has become a business and there's too much to loose for those maintaing the old ideas, but knowing that there are conservatives and moderates like you and I that just happen to be miniorities is showing there is change coming. If true change had arrived in PGC Micheal Steele would be representing the state in Congress.

Truth: You love to point fingers at others. You love name calling and to let you know age have nothing to do with success. Age have nothing to do with maturity. Their are plenty of mothers and fathers of all race who are 33yrs old or older and who are some of the worst mothers and fathers. It seems to me you hate been black. I think you wish you were born pale.

At 23 I think I am doing wonderful. I stated my own Practice management company which means doctor pay an 23 yr old to analize their financial documents to improve their cash flows. I also hire for doctors for these practices as well. I market their practice to grown their business and my fee is anywhere from 5%-15% of their monthly gross revenue. Age have nothing to do with been business minded. Age have nothing to do with making money. Age or color can never stop me from my goal of retiring at 30yrs old. Judge me all you want I know my purpose in live and I know what I want out of life. I can careless what group you think I belong in. We all get judged in life, so while you are judging me someone is judging you as well. I am in the medical industry and I have seen plenty of successful black men and women. Age is one thing that I have stop alot of people from been successful because people believe at 23yrs old one should not think about life but to party until you are 40yrs old and then start a business. People think at 23 yrs old I should not live in a 6,00 square feet home. I am 23 but I only have one friend who is my age. My other friends are late 30's-50 yrs old and they come to be for business ideas or advice.

Truthhurts: I do believe that you are one of those wish thinkers. You come off as one of those people who sit and say man I wish I had this or had that. You remind of someone I know who is smart,this guy reads 30-40 books per year sometimes more. He leads different book clubs. At one point he did an interview to lead Oprah book club but he is so judgemental. He judge everyone around him. He reads,have a degree as a matter of fact almost eveyone in his family have a degree, one of his brother is the higest ranking librarian in one of the western states. One of his sister is either the director or producer for the Today show. All of his brothers and Sisters have some high position job except him. He is smart in reading/books and think he knows it all but is clueless about life and how to develope himself. When he did come to my house and see my house he was amaze but yet I would of thought this person would have way more then me becasue of his family back ground( all college educated),His college degree and the fact that he read 30 plus books a year, also he think he knows it all just like you but when you see his life its really sad. He put on a front for those who do not know him, He hide behind the people he knows who are high rank people but only if they know his life is a piece of you know what. I think you are him. You remind me of this person for some reason. You come off as smart but I think you have no clue at all. You come off as one of those know it all about other peoples life but with your life you know nothing at all. You know the saying, the ones who think they know it all are always the one who knows nothing at all.You come off as one of those People who are so quick to judge others for what they do not have because you do not have nothing either. I do my self do not like to name call, I do not like to judge because I feel bless and I do not want my blessing taken away from me. If someone have issues its either I help them or not blast them.People like you are the ones who have issues with themselves because if you were truly happy you would not be other the forum judging people. People who are content with their lifes are the one who are last to judge people. You are always the first one to judge. In my opinion degree is worthless now a days. Just because you have a degree does not make you smart or educated. All you have to do is read to be smart. I have seen plenty of people with degrees who are stuggling to pay their bills or to buy food to feed their children. While you might have a high school drop out who is doing well in life. So a degree do not at all impress me and it seems thats the only thing you have in life because you mention in other postings you do not want to tout about the the city or county you live in to make others feel you are bragging but yet you are trouting about you are the fouth generation to have a degree.

Truthhurts: I have no issue with you posting coments about me not been ranking in the same income category as Jay-z because I do not want to. Jay-z sold drugs to get to where he is today. He used the drug money that he got from selling drugs to mothers,grandmothers,fathers som eof them might over dose on the product Jay-z sold them. I do no tin no way shap eor form associate my self with blood money. I respect those who are hard working people who made an honest living to get to where they are today are the one sI respect not those who used blood money. Blood money only last a while not forever. That example of Jay-z I question you, are you really what you pretent to be online. People who live your lifestyle have plenty of hard work individuals as example not a former drug dealer.

[liliblu]

Originally Posted by TuborgP

I think Sowell is a credible economist, I do however feel his status in someways has been elevated because he is a Black Conservative. He does have merit as being part of legitimate range of economic thought. I would concur with your statement that Clarence's problem arose because he did not sexually harass Anita Hill. I am not sure your exact interpretation but I will concur with your statement. I consider myself to be a fiscal moderate/conservative and a social moderate. I certainly rank Colin Powell and Obama way ahead of Jackson and Sharpton.

Did you read what I wrote or did you see what you wanted to see? That quote was Sowells not mine. Just in case you needed clarification and no I don't agree with him.

[TuborgP]

Thomas Sowell Quotes

For all to agree or disagree with. However regardless of concurrence enlightment will follow.

[kjg1963]

"At 23 I think I am doing wonderful. I stated my own Practice management company which means doctor pay an 23 yr old to analize their financial documents to improve their cash flows. I also hire for doctors for these practices as well. I market their practice to grown their business and my fee is anywhere from 5%-15% of their monthly gross revenue. Age have nothing to do with been business minded. Age have nothing to do with making money. Age or color can never stop me from my goal of retiring at 30yrs old. Judge me all you want I know my purpose in live and I know what I want out of life. I can careless what group you think I belong in. We all get judged in life, so while you are judging me someone is judging you as well. I am in the medical industry and I have seen plenty of successful black men and women."

Hmmm, I remember reading quite recently from you that you were going to start up a medical billing business and were currently in mortgages. Interesting how your start up business has grown into you telling the medical community how to run their practices. This is the first that you've mentioned are now a management firm. You are constantly telling us how successful you are. Thought you would've shoved this information down our throats already. Seems to me you spend too much time on here to be performing all these miracles.

[TuborgP]

Originally Posted by kjg1963

"At 23 I think I am doing wonderful. I stated my own Practice management company which means doctor pay an 23 yr old to analize their financial documents to improve their cash flows. I also hire for doctors for these practices as well. I market their practice to grown their business and my fee is anywhere from 5%-15% of their monthly gross revenue. Age have nothing to do with been business minded. Age have nothing to do with making money. Age or color can never stop me from my goal of retiring at 30yrs old. Judge me all you want I know my purpose in live and I know what I want out of life. I can careless what group you think I belong in. We all get judged in life, so while you are judging me someone is judging you as well. I am in the medical industry and I have seen plenty of successful black men and women."

Hmmm, I remember reading quite recently from you that you were going to start up a medical billing business and were currently in mortgages. Interesting how your start up business has grown into you telling the medical community how to run their practices. This is the first that you've mentioned are now a management firm. You are constantly telling us how successful you are. Thought you would've shoved this information down our throats already. Seems to me you spend too much time on here to be performing all these miracles.

Read the last post in the Is crime that bad thread. It is new as of a few moments ago.

[fishfister]

Originally Posted by truthhurts

Turborg, you know i have nothing against either Fish or Iscalder. It is not a personal thing. I just think they have extreme view either way. They tend to not stick to the facts.

I'm not trying to put her down. I'm saying she is successful, but i'll stress a 23 that makes 150k a year is much different than a 33 year old that makes 150k a year.

I think as she gets older she'll also realize a mother that is 23 years of age is much different than a mother that is 33 years of age.

However, with Fish i'm not sure how old he is, but he's just so bitter and in some cases rightfully so, but he would rather lump us all in one basket and paint us red and call it a day. However, it is just not that simple. What one family experiences in a county with almost 1 million people is going to be totally different than what another family experiences and he cannot seem to get himself pas that reality.

It's like just because you live in a crime infested hell hole does not mean every last person in the county lives in a crime infested hell hole. Example Homeland is a wealthy upscale affluent neighborhood in the city of Baltimore, that has no crime and no real homicide rate, but if you go 3 blocks down the street there's a murder a minute.

In closing every now and then i find myself agreeing with some of what they say, but overall they are far too extreme and militant for me.

I guess next i'll have to start a thread to explain what i mean by militant.

FACTS - if what your statistics are is "supposedly" the way things should be and are, you are thrown off. Statistics lead to a lot of erroneous findings because there is always an unknown factor to skew the outcome.
How do the statistics predict your lifespan? Look out for the truck that runs the traffic light.

Militant - Militant - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

Are you a milquetoast? How would you fare on a debate team? Is one who feels strongly about subject matter, is familiar with it to be confident when speaking about it and has the conviction to do so a MILITANT? I think not. You are militant yourself with your numerous lists of numbers you know nothing of. Yes, you know nothing of them save for the fact they are numbers.
As far as my age, suffice it to say I am old enough to be you or Iscalder's parent. I am nonpartisan as far as politics is concerned because the correct name on the voting ballot has nothing to do with a political party. Bitter? You must take my observations as a scary bedtime story. You come across as quite bitter when several of us eschew your "facts". You do not live here, read the local news concerning the county council/chamber of commerce or see the crime that takes place. You are removed and guess at it.
As far as an extreme point of view, give an example.

My young foil, Iscalder, may have a salary near what she touts however, I know of too many that inflate those figures to come across as impressive. A lot of them have had to surrender their houses. I agree that her current cavalier attitude is different now than it will be in the future. I predict it may intensify in her search of hauteur.

I have no want to lump anyone all in one basket to paint red and call it a day. What is the point? I don't even understand what that implies.
This county is more united than a lot would think and we know most of it stinks. All we have to do is take a ride in any of 4 directions to another county or state and realize we have been given the same old crap for years.
I've said it before, it is not a racial or class matter. It is a political matter that none in the county takes seriously enough to express in the voting booths. Blacks can't vote for a black candidate for the sole reason he/she is - that is like giving your check book away to a relative.
On the same token, whites cannot so either. The county is majority black - I think there are more than a few competent black residents that can do the job as well, if not better, than white. She might be female as women are in the majority.

Where do you read the implication that we claim our areas are "crime infested hell-holes"? Rather, we live in a county that is home to many that are far too opportunistic. Our policing officials are hampered by the state and there are no deterrents. The teen black males in my neighborhood act as if they are thugs in rap videos. I know their parents cannot endorse that but they need be a bit more proactive. The white kids are rednecks that act like rap kids.
I live in a large neighborhood near Crossland HS. Anyone on here familiar with the area?

Please stop with the "wealthy upscale neighborhood" barrage. PGC nor the rest of the state of MD is going to morph into "old money country club estate territory". It just ain't gonna happen because it isn't to begin with.
Further developments (breaking up large tracts of farmland) will do more harm than good.

[lscalder]

Originally Posted by kjg1963

"At 23 I think I am doing wonderful. I stated my own Practice management company which means doctor pay an 23 yr old to analize their financial documents to improve their cash flows. I also hire for doctors for these practices as well. I market their practice to grown their business and my fee is anywhere from 5%-15% of their monthly gross revenue. Age have nothing to do with been business minded. Age have nothing to do with making money. Age or color can never stop me from my goal of retiring at 30yrs old. Judge me all you want I know my purpose in live and I know what I want out of life. I can careless what group you think I belong in. We all get judged in life, so while you are judging me someone is judging you as well. I am in the medical industry and I have seen plenty of successful black men and women."

Hmmm, I remember reading quite recently from you that you were going to start up a medical billing business and were currently in mortgages. Interesting how your start up business has grown into you telling the medical community how to run their practices. This is the first that you've mentioned are now a management firm. You are constantly telling us how successful you are. Thought you would've shoved this information down our throats already. Seems to me you spend too much time on here to be performing all these miracles.

Its a Medical Billing and Practice Management company. We do more then Medical billing but that is one of our services that we offer to doctors who are one person practice. I do have people who work for me and I find this forum a place to go to when I need a breather. I stil do loans only if its an referral.

[kjg1963]

Originally Posted by lscalder

Its a Medical Billing and Practice Management company. We do more then Medical billing but that is one of our services that we offer to doctors who are one person practice. I do have people who work for me and I find this forum a place to go to when I need a breather. I stil do loans only if its an referral.

Thank you for the clarification. Usually you mention your business. You had never mentioned the management side of it. You are to be commended for having the drive to start your own businesses. Best of luck in your new endeavor.

[md_boy]

I think PG County has it positives and negatives. I think how you look at the county depends on a lot, and I do mean a lot, of factors. I'm a black male who is 29 y/o and was born and raised in PG County. I went to a HBCU in DC, and I first generation American (my parents are from the Caribbean), so how I view the county is totally different then how others may view it. Growing up, PG County was ok. I honestly think that I would have preferred to be raised in lower Montgomery County because I think that that area was more in line with my values growing up. I went to Largo high school and I barely keep in touch with any of my friends (unless they grew up in my neighborhood).

I think the biggest challenge that PG County faces has to deal with cultural and moral values. The county has a lot of kids with direction and don’t believe in education. I think that until young parents really step up and hold themselves accountable for their children’s actions, then the county will continue to struggle with its image. Teenagers and young adults are the root cause of the crime and violence in PG, but even outside of violence, there are a lot of non-threatening youth that don’t have any ambition or guidance in school. You have a lot of young parents worrying about making money to pay for a mortgage that eats up 75% of their check each month, rather than living in something more affordable and taking care of their family. I think that PG County has a lot of first generation blacks that have a good salary but no real wealth. And to no-fault of their own, blacks as a whole (and especially young blacks, me included) are just realizing what a lot of our white counterparts have none for a long time. Our parents’ ambitions and values are totally different from ours, and though they might have told us to get an education and go to college, they never told us (or better yet showed us) how to develop wealth…

I think that how you look at the County depends on which part of the county you are interested in moving into and your age group and living situation. I can really only speak for myself, but in terms of affordable housing and decent neighborhoods I think that if you are single or married without kids (or toddlers) then the county has a lot to offer if you opt to move outside on the capital beltway. First, the school system in PG is a joke and will continue to be one until more parents get involved. So if you have a school-aged child, then I wouldn’t move to PG County, unless I lived in Bowie, Glen Dale or Mitchellville and maybe Upper Marlboro (not sure how Wise HS is). But the downside of that is that those areas are more established and thus more expensive to afford for a lot of people. If you can afford it, then those are some of the better neighborhoods in terms of less violence, education, and amenities (even though they hardly compare to the middles class of neighboring counties). I would feel safe living there, though safe doesn’t mean being unaware to your surroundings.

Upper Marlboro, to me, is the next Mitchellville/Bowie. It has some really nice communities and a very professional younger crowd. The biggest thing the area lacks is amenities. There are no amenities in the area. However, the retail/commercial industry is starting to develop so I think amenities will come. Just to note, when I talk of Upper Marlboro, I am speaking more of the 20772 area code and not so much of the 20774 area code. Specifically, I am speaking of Largo, or any area surrounding Largo High School/ PG Community College. That area has been bad since I can remember; not so much as in murder, but as far as residential break-ins and car-thefts... A lot of kids skip school from Largo High School, which has an extremely high truancy rate

Laurel is another good alternative, but I personally don't like it because there is only one way truly in and out of that area if you work in DC and B/W parkway is horrible going to an from DC during rush hour. Outside of rush-hour, Laurel is probably on of the quickest ways to get to the business district in DC. And if you work going towards Baltimore then it is a good area to live in. Also, the closest metro is Greenbelt and that isn't close enough for my likings. Other than those personal dislikes, certain parts of Laurel are really nice.


But PG definitely has a lot of room for commercial and residential development and I think the county government is starting to really follow the examples of its neighboring counties (i.e. Montgomery, Anne Arundel, and Howard Counties). PG definitely does not have the amenities that our surrounding counties have, but they will come in the near future. Under county executive Jack Johnson (hate him or love him), the middle to upper income PG is becoming a better place to live and cheaper alternative to other counties. Amenities and services are growing and felony crime is not as commonplace as it is within the inner-beltway communities. However the lower income areas in PG are in dire need of change (a lot of lower income people were pushed out of DC into border communities in PG). There is nothing wrong with being lower income and there are a lot of good people who may not have the money to live in other areas, but the biggest problem in those areas are the young black males who would rather sale drugs and commit crimes as opposed to simply living within their means and bettering themselves, their families and communities…

To put a long story short, I think PG County desperately needs diversification. The outer beltway areas are nice if you are young and without kids, but the inner areas in whole (outside of Cheverly and some places in College Park) is still a huge work-in-progress. PG County should be proud that is a wealthy majority black county, but at the end of the day that means nothing when corporate America sees the county as second class. Too much of one thing is never good, whether it be white, black, asian, or Hispanic. With diversity brings change and PG County desperately needs change in its demographic make-up. PG County because it is relatively cheap compared to other surrounding areas and has some really good areas and has a very very good professional young network. I also think that as the county becomes more diverse, more opportunities will start developing for the county. But if I was older with a family, I wouldn’t live in PG, unless it was in one of the abovementioned areas.

[mamc]

I live in Laurel and love it... Depending on your job, Laurel is a great option. I know many people who have moved here from out of state and feel very happy with their decision. I don't think its as "unsafe" as many other areas.