Everyone that Lives in Montgomery County!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Germantown, Bethesda: mortgage, buying, construction)

[$mk8795]

There is a planned County Vote this Tuesday that will determine the fate of Widening I-270 from Gaithersburg to Frederick. From Gaithersburg to Germantown I-270 is planned to be widen up to 12 Lanes and the remainder up to Frederick will be 8 Lanes. It is very Important for the County Government Approves the Project because it Will be a Commuting Nightmare if I-270 doesn't get widen plus the simple FACT that I-270 runs into I-495 for Virginia in which Virginia is widening I-495 to 12 Lanes.

One Major Issue that can cause the I-270 Widening Project to not get approval is that the Special Interest Groups that oppose any Maryland Highway Projects are posting e-mail links(to Montgomery County Lawmakers) on their Blogs/Message Forums in a agenda to get people to sign a petition to oppose the I-270 Widening.

If you support I-270 Widening please call or send e-mails to Nancy Floreen((240) 777-7959) At-Large Member of the County Council at Welcome to the Montgomery County Maryland Website and Roger Berliner((240) 777-7828) District Member of the County Council at Welcome to the Montgomery County Maryland Website

Again their vote is this Tuesday please send e-mails of your support before Tuesday Morning.

Thanks!

[trying2moveup]

Though I love Frederick, was up there today and miss it dearly after 8 years, I am SO GLAD THAT I WILL NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS IMPENDING - though perhaps, no, necessary - NIGHTMARE. My heart goes out to all that do. :-(

[cpterp]

Originally Posted by $mk8795

There is a planned County Vote this Tuesday that will determine the fate of Widening I-270 from Gaithersburg to Frederick. From Gaithersburg to Germantown I-270 is planned to be widen up to 12 Lanes and the remainder up to Frederick will be 8 Lanes. It is very Important for the County Government Approves the Project because it Will be a Commuting Nightmare if I-270 doesn't get widen plus the simple FACT that I-270 runs into I-495 for Virginia in which Virginia is widening I-495 to 12 Lanes.

One Major Issue that can cause the I-270 Widening Project to not get approval is that the Special Interest Groups that oppose any Maryland Highway Projects are posting e-mail links(to Montgomery County Lawmakers) on their Blogs/Message Forums in a agenda to get people to sign a petition to oppose the I-270 Widening.

If you support I-270 Widening please call or send e-mails to Nancy Floreen((240) 777-7959) At-Large Member of the County Council at Welcome to the Montgomery County Maryland Website and Roger Berliner((240) 777-7828) District Member of the County Council at Welcome to the Montgomery County Maryland Website

Again their vote is this Tuesday please send e-mails of your support before Tuesday Morning.

Thanks!

I live in Germantown, and I don't think widening I-270 is the best solution to the problem. Sure it alleviates traffic in the short term, at a high cost to taxpayers, but 10 years from now the congestion problem will return. What the county (and state) needs to do is speed up planning, engineering, and construction of the Corridor Cities Transitway from Shady Grove to Clarksburg. MARC service needs to be improved to.

[sobo16]

I agree with cpterp. In addition to being a costly, short-term solution, building wider highways only encourages people to live further and further from work, eventually increasing traffic in the long run.

Providing more rapid transit options would be the best solution.

[danwxman]

Originally Posted by sobo16

I agree with cpterp. In addition to being a costly, short-term solution, building wider highways only encourages people to live further and further from work, eventually increasing traffic in the long run.

Providing more rapid transit options would be the best solution.

Very well said. I think they should add one additional lane and make it for carpooling/buses only and extend rail to Frederick then eventually Hagerstown.

[$mk8795]

Originally Posted by cpterp

I live in Germantown, and I don't think widening I-270 is the best solution to the problem. Sure it alleviates traffic in the short term, at a high cost to taxpayers, but 10 years from now the congestion problem will return. What the county (and state) needs to do is speed up planning, engineering, and construction of the Corridor Cities Transitway from Shady Grove to Clarksburg. MARC service needs to be improved to.

Totally Disagree because you have to think about the Fact that Virginia is widening almore all of their Highway's I-66, I-495, and I-395/95 in which it will create a Severe Bottleneck for Majority of people that reside along the I-270 Corridor that work and shop in Northern Virginia.

Not widening I-270 and building slow Unreliable Trolley Like Light Rails Will Not Reduce the Traffic Issues on I-270 especially if Virginia continues to successfully widen ALL of their Interstate Highways.

[cpterp]

Originally Posted by $mk8795

Totally Disagree because you have to think about the Fact that Virginia is widening almore all of their Highway's I-66, I-495, and I-395/95 in which it will create a Severe Bottleneck for Majority of people that reside along the I-270 Corridor that work and shop in Northern Virginia.

Not widening I-270 and building slow Unreliable Trolley Like Light Rails Will Not Reduce the Traffic Issues on I-270 especially if Virginia continues to successfully widen ALL of their Interstate Highways.

Yeah, about that. I don't see what anything VA does has anything to do with MD. I-66 is virtually a joke in it's current form. It only has 2-3 lane inside the Beltway (this for a highway providing direct access to DC), and seems to be congested 90% of the time. Similar deal with I-95 in Virginia. Lanes/better transit should have been added to those highways 5 years ago, and right now that's the probably only possible solution to cure congestion on those roads.

Unlike those roads, I-270 is mostly only congested around rush hour, and already has 3 express lanes, 2 local lanes, and an HOV lane in either direction between Gaithersburg and the split. The Frederick-Clarksburg portion might need an extra lane, but not the Clarksburg/Germantown-Bethesda portion. Also, while the neocons in Richmond might think that simply adding lanes will cure VA's traffic woes, in MoCo/MD we try to think more progressively. The "Unreliable Trolley Like Light Rails" as you call it, will be built anyway regardless of the decision MoCo makes on the highway widening, it will just sit on the backburner for longer if the county wastes money to increase pollution and sprawl by widening 270.

[dkf747]

Originally Posted by cpterp

....if the county wastes money to increase pollution and sprawl by widening 270.

The pollution and sprawl are happening anyways. Extending the HOV lanes all the way to Frederick is a good idea. I really do not see how the CCT is going to make much of a difference in pollution and sprawl. Seems like a waste of money to me. They should spend that money on making MARC better and more frequent.

[mwruckman]

Widening I-270 to 12 lanes or maybe 16-20 lanes by 2025 may turn out to be a mistake because it assumes that gasoline will continue to be cheap and the Washington DC area will add thousands and thousands of government and Beltway bandit jobs. How likely is this?

Things might change if the dollar collapses, federal tax receipts evaporate and the federal payroll shrinks. 8-12 dollar a gallon gasoline might make buying a tract mansion with a jumbo subprime mortgage in Western MD less attractive. If this is a better description of the American future then the current I-270 may be more than adequate and the issue might be figuring how to pay to patch the potholes.

[$mk8795]

Originally Posted by cpterp

Yeah, about that. I don't see what anything VA does has anything to do with MD.

Oh really.......

Either you don't live in Maryland or you don't know that more than 80% of the Commuters heading south on I-270 in the mornings are heading towards the Arlington-Tyson's Corner-Dulles Virginia Corridor.

Originally Posted by cpterp

I-66 is virtually a joke in it's current form. It only has 2-3 lane inside the Beltway (this for a highway providing direct access to DC), and seems to be congested 90% of the time. Similar deal with I-95 in Virginia. Lanes/better transit should have been added to those highways 5 years ago, and right now that's the probably only possible solution to cure congestion on those roads.

The state of Virginia is already planning on Widening I-66, I-395/95, and Completing the Widening Project on I-495 without any setbacks from the same Troublemakers that are trying to Stall the I-270 Widening along with other Major Marland Highway and Urban Development Project.

Originally Posted by cpterp

Unlike those roads, I-270 is mostly only congested around rush hour, and already has 3 express lanes, 2 local lanes, and an HOV lane in either direction between Gaithersburg and the split. The Frederick-Clarksburg portion might need an extra lane, but not the Clarksburg/Germantown-Bethesda portion. Also, while the neocons in Richmond might think that simply adding lanes will cure VA's traffic woes, in MoCo/MD we try to think more progressively. The "Unreliable Trolley Like Light Rails" as you call it, will be built anyway regardless of the decision MoCo makes on the highway widening, it will just sit on the backburner for longer if the county wastes money to increase pollution and sprawl by widening 270.

I'm not saying they are not going to increase mass transit options along the I-270 Corridor. I am saying that No Matter what Tricks the Maryland Hating Troublemaking Corruptionist Special Interest Group tries to pull, the state of Maryland Will have I-270 widen between Gaithersburg and Frederick. Again I say if I-66, I-395/95, and I-495 in Virginia successfully Completes the Widening Projects then so shall the I-270 Widening Project be successfully Completed.