Politics: B'More vs. DC, What's teh Beef? (Baltimore, Annapolis: home, luxury)

[North Beach Person]

The MD prison system has learned not to house Baltimore and DC suburb inmates together, the state universities follow the same policy as do the various juvenile detention centers.

[cpterp]

Originally Posted by KeyserSoze

DC by far is the city with the greatest sphere of influence in Virginia. I don't know what your beef with the areas "way south" of you are, but they are just as much a part of the metro as the Maryland side. Would you complain about York County, "way North" in Pennsylvania that has strong ties to the Baltimore area?

Anyway. I've never seen much of the tension between the two metros. Yea, they're a bit standoffish to each other, but that's all I've really seen. If anything, I think it may just be the "spirit" of rivalry. But if animosity seriously exists between the two, I think that's silly. These two cities should be competing together as a big metro, like Dallas/Fort Worth, or San Jose/San Francisco/Oakland. The possibilities are literally endless.

I don't have a 'beef' with anybody. The pont is that MD counties much closer to DC than some than some in VA get much less DC media attention. Baltimore and DC to me seem more divided than the Dallas/Fort Worth and definitely more so than the San Fran Bay Area.

[KeyserSoze]

Originally Posted by cpterp

I don't have a 'beef' with anybody.

I beg to differ. Most of your posts about Virginia tend to distance and ostracize it from the metro, like your last one. Considering that it's a part of your own metro, I don't understand why you or others like you would think something like that -- which is an issue that exists within the DC area.

Originally Posted by cpterp

The pont is that MD counties much closer to DC than some than some in VA get much less DC media attention.

That's because Maryland counties closer to DC have ties to the Baltimore area, as well. Howard County, for example, has coverage from both Baltimore & DC. A place like Stafford County would naturally get coverage from DC because it's part of the metro.

[cpterp]

Originally Posted by KeyserSoze

I beg to differ. Most of your posts about Virginia tend to distance and ostracize it from the metro, like your last one. Considering that it's a part of your own metro, I don't understand why you or others like you would think something like that -- which is an issue that exists within the DC area.

That's because Maryland counties closer to DC have ties to the Baltimore area, as well. Howard County, for example, has coverage from both Baltimore & DC. A place like Stafford County would naturally get coverage from DC because it's part of the metro.

I'm not ostracizing anything. The DC Metro area covers both sides of the Potomac and the VA counties have nothing to do with my post, except for my point as to the extent of DC media coverage. The problem is that Maryland counties near Baltimore in the Balt-Wash area are totally alienated from Washington D.C. and vise versa. In other words there is no overlap. Howard County is a perfect example, in that DC and B'more commuters live there, but it's almost exclusively covered by Baltimore media.

P.S. If I'm not mistaken you're the same person who stubbornly (and persistently) attacked my posts on another thread. I'd appreciate it if you would stop following me around. Thanks.

[waltlantz]

Aside from this silly tift, this is a group of great responses! Thanks, very informative.

It is true that Montco and PG are essentially extentions of DC in many ways, I am unfamilar with the character of Baltimore and it's vicinity. Well I understand B'more kinda but only in the generic, minority heavy, "big city in big trouble" type, nothing more substantial.

Would it be right to say that B'more and it's vicinity are more blue collar focused? What adjectives would you use to describe the area as different from the affluent, young pro (yuppie is a little derog maybe), "suit" mentality of DCish Maryland.

On the sports note, aside from the Bullets moving, those were some interesting tidbits that I previously didn't know. I really don't think there is any real strong inter-area rivalry in any sport yet.

I have a feeling that the Nats are still trying to woo people who divide time to or are primarily loyal to B'more. I'm not sure how the college atheltic fanbase plays out, but I am in NoVa and look at both the Cavs and Terps football (in terms of basketball, area coverage is DOMINATED by the Terps!!)

[KeyserSoze]

Originally Posted by waltlantz

Would it be right to say that B'more and it's vicinity are more blue collar focused? What adjectives would you use to describe the area as different from the affluent, young pro (yuppie is a little derog maybe), "suit" mentality of DCish Maryland.

I think that's the thing. It has changed, but Baltimore still has that blue collar image.

Originally Posted by cpterp

P.S. If I'm not mistaken you're the same person who stubbornly (and persistently) attacked my posts on another thread. I'd appreciate it if you would stop following me around. Thanks.

If I'm not mistaken, you're the one who stubbornly and persistently posts biased, misguided, foolish information. Maybe if you weren't so stubbornly and persistently as such, I wouldn't have to stubbornly and persistently "follow you around". I'd appreciate it if you came with better insight next time. Thank you.

[Gil3]

Originally Posted by KeyserSoze

DC by far is the city with the greatest sphere of influence in Virginia. I don't know what your beef with the areas "way south" of you are, but they are just as much a part of the metro as the Maryland side. Would you complain about York County, "way North" in Pennsylvania that has strong ties to the Baltimore area?

Anyway. I've never seen much of the tension between the two metros. Yea, they're a bit standoffish to each other, but that's all I've really seen. If anything, I think it may just be the "spirit" of rivalry. But if animosity seriously exists between the two, I think that's silly. These two cities should be competing together as a big metro, like Dallas/Fort Worth, or San Jose/San Francisco/Oakland. The possibilities are literally endless.

Excellent and accurate analysis..

[Do a Barrel Roll]

Originally Posted by North Beach Person

The MD prison system has learned not to house Baltimore and DC suburb inmates together, the state universities follow the same policy as do the various juvenile detention centers.

I'm going to Maryland right now and I never recalled being divided by which suburb I live in. Along with that, I really saw no tension between B-More area kids and DC area kids (now as for true rivalry, go to any Pennsylvania school and observe the reaction between Philly area and Pittsburgh area kids during any sports game or party where sports are invoked).

[cool rob]

Originally Posted by The_Fairfaxian

I'm going to Maryland right now and I never recalled being divided by which suburb I live in. Along with that, I really saw no tension between B-More area kids and DC area kids (now as for true rivalry, go to any Pennsylvania school and observe the reaction between Philly area and Pittsburgh area kids during any sports game or party where sports are invoked).

true but on that same note, Baltimore does not have any Division I schools that rival UMCP/Georgetown. The closest would be Towson, and their biggest rival would possibly be Mason or GW. Kind of the same with Ravens versus Redskins, two diffrent divisions yet only a half hour apart, and they very rarely play each other outside of preseason

[westsideboy]

Maryland is not a two party state in politics so instead the division in state government is around geography. For many years the common interests of Baltimore city and the rural counties were aligned (both needed state money to attempt to fix problems) against that of the upscale Washington suburbs. I am not sure if that coalition is still in place or not.