do Maryland residents consider themselves as "Southerners?" (Annapolis: for sale, agricultural)

[Murland]

I've lived in Anne Arundel county my whole life, mostly in Annapolis. I feel that this area of Maryland has more in common with the northern states than the southern ones. The culture and environment you'll get in Annapolis is very colonial and historical, kind of like New England. But when I go to Southern MD or the Eastern Shore to visit my relatives it feels more like the south. The southern hospitality is very present in both of these areas.

And Baltimore doesn't really remind me of the North or the South, it seems somewhere in between. For such a small state, Maryland has many different types of towns and cities.

[KeyserSoze]

Originally Posted by Murland

I've lived in Anne Arundel county my whole life, mostly in Annapolis. I feel that this area of Maryland has more in common with the northern states than the southern ones. The culture and environment you'll get in Annapolis is very colonial and historical, kind of like New England. But when I go to Southern MD or the Eastern Shore to visit my relatives it feels more like the south. The southern hospitality is very present in both of these areas.

And Baltimore doesn't really remind me of the North or the South, it seems somewhere in between. For such a small state, Maryland has many different types of towns and cities.

To me, Annapolis looks & feels more like a historic Virginia city, like Fredericksburg. And Anne Arundel has always felt pretty quintessential "Maryland"/Southern to me. I guess it's just the water.

I agree with you about Baltimore, though. It feels more like a mix between the two than just one or the other.

[GeekChick]

Oh hell no! You mean Maryland next to PA and Jersey?

There are plenty of rednecks in Southern MD...

And in California also! (Bakersfield, Barstow) That doesn't make Maryland
the south!

I feel "redneck" is a disparaging term and for counties that are among the wealthiest in the county, I doubt they dominate the area. Also, remember that rural does not equal "southern," I'm sure if you go to Penn., Ohio, or upstate NY you'll see the same type of people you're describing (without the 10oz beers ).

Exactly!

[BlackZappa301]

After years of being TOO southern for the Philly and all point North crowd and not Southern enough for everyone from Richmond (really, Spotsylvania) and down, I believe I can't categorize it as either. There are so many elements of both.

[doctorjef]

[quote=GeekChick;10298156]Oh hell no! You mean Maryland next to PA and Jersey?
quote]

Next to Jersey? I don't think so.

[NJ2MDdude]

[quote=doctorjef;10300164]

Originally Posted by GeekChick

Oh hell no! You mean Maryland next to PA and Jersey?
quote]

Next to Jersey? I don't think so.

Delaware just doesn't get any respect or recognition.

[michgc]

When I grew up in Pennsylvania, I always thought of Maryland as "The South." Then when I went to college, I became friends with a couple of girls from Baltimore, and they laughed at me. They did not think of themselves as being from the South. Now that I live in Northern Virginia, I agree that Baltimore and DC are more like Mid-Atlantic states. Having said that, I think certain parts of the state are somewhat southern.

[Giantwon]

This could help ..........


History of Maryland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Governor Hicks prevented Maryland from seceding in 1861.


The first bloodshed of the Civil War occurred in Baltimore involving Massachusetts troops who were fired on while marching between railroad stations on April 19, 1861. After that, Baltimore Mayor George William Brown, Marshal George P. Kane, and former Governor Enoch Louis Lowe requested that Maryland Governor Thomas H. Hicks, a slave owner from the Eastern Shore, burn the railroad bridges and cut the telegraph lines leading to Baltimore to prevent further troops from entering the state. Hicks reportedly approved this proposal. These actions were addressed in the famous federal court case of Ex parte Merryman.
Maryland remained part of the Union during the United States Civil War. President Abraham Lincoln's strong hand suppressing violence and dissent in Maryland and the belated assistance of Governor Hicks played important roles. Hicks worked with federal officials to stop further violence.
Marylanders sympathetic to the South easily crossed the Potomac River to join and fight for the Confederacy. Exiles organized a "Maryland Line" in the Army of Northern Virginia which consisted of one infantry regiment, one infantry battalion, two cavalry battalions and four battalions of artillery. According to the best extant records, up to 25,000 Marylanders went south to fight for the Confederacy. About 60,000 Maryland men served in all branches of the Union military. However, many of the Union troops were said to enlist on the promise of home garrison duty.

[cpterp]

Originally Posted by Giantwon

This could help ..........


History of Maryland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Governor Hicks prevented Maryland from seceding in 1861.


The first bloodshed of the Civil War occurred in Baltimore involving Massachusetts troops who were fired on while marching between railroad stations on April 19, 1861. After that, Baltimore Mayor George William Brown, Marshal George P. Kane, and former Governor Enoch Louis Lowe requested that Maryland Governor Thomas H. Hicks, a slave owner from the Eastern Shore, burn the railroad bridges and cut the telegraph lines leading to Baltimore to prevent further troops from entering the state. Hicks reportedly approved this proposal. These actions were addressed in the famous federal court case of Ex parte Merryman.
Maryland remained part of the Union during the United States Civil War. President Abraham Lincoln's strong hand suppressing violence and dissent in Maryland and the belated assistance of Governor Hicks played important roles. Hicks worked with federal officials to stop further violence.
Marylanders sympathetic to the South easily crossed the Potomac River to join and fight for the Confederacy. Exiles organized a "Maryland Line" in the Army of Northern Virginia which consisted of one infantry regiment, one infantry battalion, two cavalry battalions and four battalions of artillery. According to the best extant records, up to 25,000 Marylanders went south to fight for the Confederacy. About 60,000 Maryland men served in all branches of the Union military. However, many of the Union troops were said to enlist on the promise of home garrison duty.

Yeah, but does that make Maryland (in 2009) Southern? There were large numbers of Southern sympathizers in Indiana, Pennsylvania, Maine, and Ohio, many of whom would probably have rioted if given the chance. Governor Hicks later voiced his support for the Union and prevented secession, but was more neutral than anything else. Also, while Baltimore, Anne Arundel County, and the Shore may have had secessionists. Western MD, and the Washington suburbs were staunchly pro-Union. Hicks organized a special session of the legislature to prevent secession, and the state legislators unanimously (this was after Lincoln had some arrested) turned down secession.

Here's a more in depth article about Maryland in the Civil War: Maryland in the American Civil War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Disclaimer: Whoever wrote both articles seems to have a bias. If you read them carefully, the North/Union is almost always shed in a negative light, and it seems the author wished Maryland was a Confederate state. Ah, wikipedia...

[KeyserSoze]

Originally Posted by cpterp

Yeah, but does that make Maryland (in 2009) Southern? There were large numbers of Southern sympathizers in Indiana, Pennsylvania, Maine, and Ohio, many of whom would probably have rioted if given the chance. Governor Hicks later voiced his support for the Union and prevented secession, but was more neutral than anything else. Also, while Baltimore, Anne Arundel County, and the Shore may have had secessionists. Western MD, and the Washington suburbs were staunchly pro-Union. Hicks organized a special session of the legislature to prevent secession, and the state legislators unanimously (this was after Lincoln had some arrested) turned down secession.

Here's a more in depth article about Maryland in the Civil War: Maryland in the American Civil War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Disclaimer: Whoever wrote both articles seems to have a bias. If you read them carefully, the North/Union is almost always shed in a negative light, and it seems the author wished Maryland was a Confederate state. Ah, wikipedia...

The Washington suburbs during that time period actually leaned more neturally/towards the Confederate side. The city itself didn't. The difference between Southern sympathizers in Maryland and those in Indiana/Pennsylvania/Maine/Ohio is that Marylanders were actually part of the South(most of it anyway), and I feel that they still are today. Obviously it's changed a lot since that time(as has the rest of the South), and I think we can all agree that Southern Maryland & the shore are at least part of the (Coastal) South, but the state by and large has Southern roots.