Why has Montgomery County Let itself go downhill (Silver Spring, Germantown: apartments, buying a house)

[BOB7732]

Originally Posted by tercel95

It really is sad about Calvert county and SOMD and the problems that increased population has brought them... Most areas in Montgomery county started the same way though just 30 years apart in terms of population explosion... Montgomery county is nearly saturated with housing so people have to go somewhere... Eventually Montgomery will be the new PG, Frederick is working towards being the new Montgomery, and Calvert will become the next Frederick... or something like that...

The ranch club in lusby [CRC] was good but gotten bad now, now there is no security gaurds

There is crime & groth everwhere, we can do without the crime. But like I heard one time on the TV news [before it changed] 'this us to be a good neighborhood but where there is growth there is crime [talking about DC].

But there is hope in all of this?

Jesus

Amen.

[tercel95]

Originally Posted by BOB7732

The ranch club in lusby [CRC] was good but gotten bad now, now there is no security gaurds

There is crime & groth everwhere, we can do without the crime. But like I heard one time on the TV news [before it changed] 'this us to be a good neighborhood but where there is growth there is crime [talking about DC].

But there is hope in all of this?

Jesus

Amen.

The ranch club was always one of the "low rent" areas in Lusby along with White Sands and Drum Point...

I don't think it has to do with them removing the security shacks (I thought they were incredibly annoying) but more to do with over development and the building of cracker box houses on tiny lots...

My parents still live there its not that bad just worse than it was many many years ago...

[stephadele]

Last weekend, we tried to have dinner in Bethesda at one of our favorite places.
We ended up going back to Silver Spring because we couldnt find a place to park in an 8 level decker parking lot!
What good is living near all these great restuarants and places if you cant get to them???
Plus the traffic is the 2nd worse in the country...Only LA is worse.
I never drive in DC..just not worth the aggravation and stress....no place to park and you are ticketed for everything.
Cyclists dont obey the traffic rules and ride side by side hogging the entire lane instead of riding single file like they are supposed to.
We live in a nice neighborhood in Silver Spring off Flower Ave. but cars and houses here are broke into by teens coming from Northeast DC and Piney Branch....Its not worth it to have to sleep with one eye open every nite.
We cant wait to get out of here and move to Queen Anne County on the Eastern Shore next Spring.

[LynchburgLover]

Haven't read the whole thread just the title. My answer is simple: Offer tons of entitlements to low income people; add extremely high taxes on wealthier people.

The rich move out.

[Moth]

Originally Posted by LynchburgLover

Haven't read the whole thread just the title. My answer is simple: Offer tons of entitlements to low income people; add extremely high taxes on wealthier people.

The rich move out.

I think its the middle class who moves out. The rich in MC are sequestered/shielded enough so that they need not deal with low income folks and their liberal leanings make taxes acceptable. But not so the middle class. Some laugh, but is very similiar to New York City in that way.

[Dredre]

I'm pretty against inter WMA between Maryland and Virginia but some people here aren't playing fairly. I don't think there is a good measure of comparison.

The county view is too narrow and the state view is too broad.

It's easy to say Loudon County's income is so much higher than Prince George's County yet Prince George's County has so many more people than Loudon county. If you cherry picked the 200,000 and some highest in PG out of its total 800,000 and something it would compare more favorably to Loudon county. You wouldn't take a town of 5 people with a median of 100 and say there's more there than a city of 20 people with a median of 95 (extreme impossible example by the way)
And regardless of the census PW isn't as close to DC as PG. Counting PW is like counting Howard County. If there was a more major city in Virginia (such as Baltimore with Maryland) then its metro area suburbs would be split as well.

But then you can't just take the whole of Virginia and the whole of Maryland if your focus is more on the WMA area. This spin clearly favors Maryland more. A greater percentage of Maryland as a whole is in the WMA than Virginia as a whole. Counting the states as a whole you are taking into consideration counties in Virginia that border Tennessee. This is comparing 5 million and something people to 7 million and something people.

Again the county view is too narrow and the state view is too broad. Where you draw the lines makes so much of the difference. Who is drawing the lines draws them to suit their agenda. I just like to say that the areas are pretty comparable.

[LynchburgLover]

Originally Posted by Moth

I think its the middle class who moves out. The rich in MC are sequestered/shielded enough so that they need not deal with low income folks and their liberal leanings make taxes acceptable. But not so the middle class. Some laugh, but is very similiar to New York City in that way.

That's very true -- the western corridor from Chevy Chase to Darnestown is very insulated from the rest of the county. Many of the middle class of Rockville/Gaithersburg became disguested with Montgomery County and have relocated to Loudoun County.

[cpterp]

Originally Posted by LynchburgLover

That's very true -- the western corridor from Chevy Chase to Darnestown is very insulated from the rest of the county. Many of the middle class of Rockville/Gaithersburg became disguested with Montgomery County and have relocated to Loudoun County.

well you have to define "many," and I think most people leaving Montgomery County move to Frederick County. Despite that the population in MoCo (including G'burg and Rockville) is still growing, and median income is still increasing. I haven't heard of anyone moving to Loudoun.

[Bigbluelandrover]

What is considered middle class in Moco? A lot of what I see in areas like Rockville are tiny shack-like homes built in 1930 and sell for 300k+ now immigrants dominate some of those areas and a lot of the eastern side of Moco. It is almost laughable to drive through Bethesda and then through Burtonsville or White Oak and consider them in the same county. Then throw in the housing choice voucher areas and one has to wonder what is wrong with these politicians that are basically destroying the eastern and central parts of the county.

[Bigbluelandrover]

What is considered middle class in Moco? A lot of what I see in areas like Rockville are tiny shack-like homes built in 1930 and sell for 300k+ now immigrants dominate some of those areas and a lot of the eastern side of Moco. It is almost laughable to drive through Bethesda and then through Burtonsville or White Oak and consider them in the same county. Then throw in the housing choice voucher areas and one has to wonder what is wrong with these politicians that are basically destroying the eastern and central parts of the county.