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06-21-2007, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by maat
I know, but he finally managed to get at my last nerve.
Did you hear LaVar Arrington is opening a sports bar at The Boulevard this Fall? Good location, close to Fedex field. That's what he was doing in the area when he had the motorcycle accident Monday afternoon.
I haven't heard a word about what Magic is up to. I have a feeling it has to do with the Suitland Manor project. One of the developers trying to get the work is affiliated with Magic.
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No. That was news to me. Thanks for the info. In addition Brian Mitchell will be opening a crab cafe with upscale dining on the corner of 202 across from Lake Arbor: GreatCrabs.com - Brian Mitchell's Crab Cafe
The Suitland project will revitalize a large segment of that area. I 'am also waiting to see what additional investment Magic will be making in the area
What I 'am excited about was the recent article in the Gazette outlining the Landover area economic development: Landover revival pushes ahead . Landover mall in its hay day will pale in comparison to what has been envisioned for that region particularly when you couple that with the Woodmore Town Center project: Woodmore Towne Centre in Landover, Maryland just down the street. I would love to see the area be a large office district with street cafes as indicated in the renderings. I know they just built some new townhomes just behind an apartment complex across the street from the region starting at $300,000. The article indicated the two apartment complexes in the region maybe torn down.
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06-21-2007, 12:02 PM
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What I 'am excited about was the recent article in the Gazette outlining the Landover area economic development: Landover revival pushes ahead . Landover mall in its hay day will pale in comparison to what has been envisioned for that region particularly when you couple that with the Woodmore Town Center project: Woodmore Towne Centre in Landover, Maryland just down the street. I would love to see the area be a large office district with street cafes as indicated in the renderings. I know they just built some new townhomes just behind an apartment complex across the street from the region starting at $300,000. The article indicated the two apartment complexes in the region maybe torn down.[/quote]
That would be wonderful- it's a huge section of land, right off the beltway- a perfect spot. Wish they'd bring back the Hot Shoppes Cafe !  |
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06-21-2007, 12:20 PM
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Yes, it is a perfect spot. Demolishing 2 more apartment complexes - speaks to the "Montgomery model" that laurelengineer was talking about.
LaVar and Brian in competition.  Glad to see them making the investment. They will do well I'm sure. |
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06-21-2007, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jessy0780
Pay attention, I said there are parts of P.G. that are nicer, but unfortunately, a lot of it has gotten very bad. I grew up there, went to school there and lived there for the majority of my life. My family is still there. My best friend teaches at the same high school we went to. 10 years ago, I didn't have any problems there, now she has to put up with being threatened by students and having parents curse at her when she calls them because their child doesn't turn in any work. Not to mention the security guards and police that are at the school every day. If the leaders of the county could get it together and start cracking down, it could be a wonderful place to live in, until then PG will to continue to have high crime and poverty rates. There's so many areas along 450 and rte 1, where businesses have closed down and nothing has been done. Look at Landover Mall- I remember going shopping there with my family, but for years there hasn't been anything worth going over there for. I sincerely hope that one day, P.G. will live up to it's potential- but it's got a long way to go.
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For the record I have paid attention to your post. Not to be engaging I want to make sure the record is straight. The PG County of yesterday during the Glandening years has changed. Many times people comment on the county based upon past experiences. Not to say some of the negative element does not remain as it does however this land is prime property being adjacent to the nation's capital and I 'am witnessing this change. It is going to take some time however Prince Georges County is in transition.
I try to post links or facts to support my claims.
For the record your statement that there is a lack of economic activity along route 1 is false. As a matter of fact the opposite is occurring. From the Hyattsville corridor through College Park and into Laurel on route 1 major development is taking place or is slated to occur.
Hyattsville corridor:
Arts District Hyattsville: Urban Rowhomes & Live-work Homes in Hyattsville, MD
http://www.eya.com/index.cfm?fuseact...A3603BE2A20190
If you click on the link for "the homes" you will see the live-work units are already sold out despite the fact that none of the construction has started.
College Park corridor:
The Village at College Park on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
College Park West - The Jefferson on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Early Rendering of CP City Hall Condo Project on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Camden at College Park on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Laurel Corridor:
Laurel Connections: The NEW Mall at Laurel
Konterra to be developed along route 198 is a massive project that will also transform that region: Konterra Realty - Town Center Charrette 2006
Down the street from College Park in Greenbelt a massive mixed used development:
Greenbelt Station on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Greenbelt Station Towne Centre on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
I 'am not going to get into the route 450 corridor however let me say development is occurring in a major way.
Why would developers come to an area with a great deal of poverty as you have indicated? The last I checked the poverty in Prince Georges County is actually decreasing despite the increase in the minority population and increasing in Howard County:
Rich Md. Counties See Poverty Levels Grow
The National Harbor is not going to be some aberration in a small section of Prince Georges County. Development is taking place throughout the entire county. The land is too valuable.
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06-21-2007, 05:19 PM
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Unapolagetic Liberal Thugster
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Are U Serious?
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Originally Posted by jessy0780
First, 311 was a typo- I meant 911, and my point was that no one should ever be put on hold when calling 911- no matter where they call from- those few minutes could be a matter of life or death to someone. Again- that part is not about PG County- I know there have been instances elsewhere in the country where the 911 emergency system has been inadequate- and it's unacceptable.
And no, getting robbed does not happen everywhere. A person should be able to feel safe down the street from their home, and it's disgusting that not one person in the viscinity had a reaction to it at all. If I saw a robbing taking place, I would call 911 and probably try to comfort the person after the robber had left. Not one person in that shopping center did anything- because they were used to it, in that area or Riverdale, it's commonplace- the police officer told me that when I told him that I honked my horn and yelled, and no one even looked up.
Also, in case you didn't realize, there are noise ordinances against music that disturbs others- we're not talking about a party going on at the house next door- we're talking about a street behind and SIX houses away that could be heard inside the house with all doors and windows closed. That is ridiculous!
Yes I want my grandparents out of PG County-at least the area they're in right now, I think they are vulnerable there, being older and an easy target. There are plenty of areas in Maryland that are more safe than where they are. I live in Howard County, and yes of course there's some crime here, but nowhere near what's in P.G. County, and you'd better believe that when there is, it's a big deal in the papers. You think I should keep perspective??? I lived there- I know first hand what's going on- I've seen my neighborhood and the surrounding areas go down hill over the years. Its awful and depressing, and as long as people (county politicians and leaders) keep denying that it's going on, it'll never be fixed. If you want to call my wanting my family to be safe running, fine- but I would certainly hope that most people would want the people that they care about to live in an area where they can feel safe- not one that has a history of break ins, car theft, petty violence, etc.- no matter what county or state that area is in. If my grandparents chose to live in a nicer area of PG County- maybe some areas of Laurel or Upper Marlboro, then I would be supportive of that- though I'd rather have them closer to us so that I can help then out when they need things.
Maybe you could explain how a criminal thing could be insignificant- I think the people have a right to know what is happening in their community.
And, honestly- I could care less about Fairfax, or even Kentland- my family is not there, it's the concern of the people who live there what state their neighborhood is in.
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Robberies don't happen everywhere? That's just stupid!
I don't know those people who were present at your robbery and I have no idea why they didn't respond and neither do you. You act like the entire county let you down because those few "citizens" did. STOP GENERALIZING!
Everybody should feel safe and you wanting your grandparents to feel safe is great but to put down and entire county based on their neighborhood is negligent. Howard county has some very ruff parts but that's ok? I'm not going to sit here and look up crime data on Howard County but I would venture to say that they've had their share of robberies this year. Why not move out of Howard? I understand that it's peoples natural instinct to believe that the worlds crumbling when something finally happens to them but it isn't. You were just unlucky that day.
Crime is significant but the slanted reporting of it makes it insignificant. If I talk about how bad the same street in one county is everyday, then people(as evidenced on this board) tend to think the entire county is crazy thus making that criminal reporting insignificant. If the regional news reported every robbery Howard County had, then everybody will think all of Howard is bad when that simply is not true. You judge the state of your own neighborhood, not the news. Judge that neighborhood not an entire county.
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06-21-2007, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by cwolfejr1
PG county deserves all of the bashing and then some. It had and may still have(haven't checked in five years) one of the highest police brytality rates. The most "ghetto" public housing in Md and the most drugs period. One of the worse school systems in the state. So besides the Md campus can you tell me why I shouldn't bash a place that should not even exist?
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06-21-2007, 10:10 PM
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First, I'd like to thank RFMD for some info. Even though I'm clearly not a fan of the county (at least in its current state), you provided evidence behind a prosperous future in parts of it. However, I remembered the eagerness of The Boulevard at Largo Town Center. However, the place has been taken over by the typical posers, thugs and militant blacks. The thing that College Park, Greenbelt, Hyattsville, and Laurel needs to make sure is to attract the right people. And considering the demographics of those places, that shouldn't be too hard to do for those places.
And now, to howsitgoingdude3, you took the words out of my mouth. I realize Tank1906's "sell-out" message was towards me, and to that I say this is why I can't stand PG County: it's the black version of a conservative, populist, fascist, bigoted, red-state mentality, narrow-minded piece of land. IMO, the only hope for this county is to model itself after Montgomery or NoVA in according to the businesses and residents it attracts. Show no mercy to the shiftless and crime committing poor. Kick them out by all means. Let the affluent blacks take the county like a lot of PG advocates "claim" they already do. And to make it better, make it more racially integrated and socially liberal like most of Montgomery and NoVA. Whatever it does, PG needs to let nothing in its way of progress it is already making.
And if PG does become the next Montgomery or (hopefully) Fairfax, my personal concern would be Charles County becoming the next PG.
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06-22-2007, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Tank1906
Robberies don't happen everywhere? That's just stupid!
I don't know those people who were present at your robbery and I have no idea why they didn't respond and neither do you. You act like the entire county let you down because those few "citizens" did. STOP GENERALIZING!
Everybody should feel safe and you wanting your grandparents to feel safe is great but to put down and entire county based on their neighborhood is negligent. Howard county has some very ruff parts but that's ok? I'm not going to sit here and look up crime data on Howard County but I would venture to say that they've had their share of robberies this year. Why not move out of Howard? I understand that it's peoples natural instinct to believe that the worlds crumbling when something finally happens to them but it isn't. You were just unlucky that day.
Crime is significant but the slanted reporting of it makes it insignificant. If I talk about how bad the same street in one county is everyday, then people(as evidenced on this board) tend to think the entire county is crazy thus making that criminal reporting insignificant. If the regional news reported every robbery Howard County had, then everybody will think all of Howard is bad when that simply is not true. You judge the state of your own neighborhood, not the news. Judge that neighborhood not an entire county.
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Obviously, if you read my posts carefully, you'd see that I'm not generalizing, and you take things entirely too literally- I was judging my neighborhood- the one I grew up in and lived in until 2 years ago. When I say that robberries don't happen everywhere, it should have been obvious that robberies are not prevalent everywhere- as they are in that shopping center in Riverdale where I was robbed- which I was told by the police officer. It was a Friday, and he said that he had been to that shopping center on calls 4 times that week- 2 car thefts, and a robbery at Rite Aid, in addition to my call.
And the crime is always reported about in Howard County- simply because it's not as common. Of course there is the same types of petty thefts, and we have murders and violence- just nowhere near the same scale as a lot of other areas- which is my whole point. Obviously, there will never be an area completely devoid of crime, but I prefer for my family to live in an area where there is less chance of it. And honestly, I got sick and tired of watching neighbors and family members deal with car thefts, and robberies, etc. No one thinks the "world's crumbling"- I saw many years of problems that I sincerely hope will be fixed- no opinion was based on one little incident. Maybe now, with leaders that seem to actually care about the county, things will change- I certainly hope so. No one wants to think of their hometown being beyond repair, and I don't think that at all.
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06-22-2007, 07:33 AM
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There is a lot of revitalization going on- now. It was a long time coming, unfortunately. There are still a lot of closed business and abondoned buildings, hopefully they won't remain that way for too much longer. There is a great deal of poverty, but there is also a great deal of wealth in P.G. I would think that the location of the county would be a big incentive for companies to settle there. For people commuting to DC or Baltimore, it really is the best location.
As for Laurel Mall, that is a great location and was once a great mall- it used to be packed! I really hope they can get it back to what it once was- it sounds like they're trying, and maybe they can make it into more than a hang out spot for local teens.
Poverty isn't an issue in my feelings about the county- growing up there and going to school, I had a very diverse group of friends from different economic and racial backgrounds- I base my feelings on the crime that I saw living there firsthand, and through friends and family and classmates- it's too much to list, and would only make me sad. Maybe other people in this forum have been lucky enough to not have seen as much, but it's our own experiences that shape our opinions. I'm certainly willing to respect that.
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06-22-2007, 09:21 AM
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Well said. I can`t wait for Laurel to become what it`s capable of doing economically and socially. we have the ability to do it. Lets do it.
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