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Old 12-15-2007, 03:57 PM
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Just what I said, some parts are nice, some aren't. But, I refuse to blindly say PG is a great place without mentioning there are less desirable places like some others. My experiences have been mostly up around (and inside) the beltway, which is definitely not the best area. Some people talk about southern PG County, which isn't too bad. Others just ramble with the popular news concept of PG. Then others try to make PG sound like Eden, badmouthing anyone that doesn't agree with them.
I'm not allowed to name specific people though...
There is so much negative information out there about PG that it is totally unnecessary to add to it. I must side with all but the most extreme boosters, because this county needs all the boosting it can get. I would never tell people that they should move to the projects in Seat Pleasant, but for the money some parts of PG are by far the best values in the region.

The county has by far the most residential waterfront of any other contiguous DC suburb. It is the only one that I know of where you can buy a horse farm ON the river without being on the Forbes wealthiest list. In Woodmore or Tantallon you can get a home ON the golf course for the price of a townhouse in Alexandria. The middle bracket homes aren't really that far behind other parts of the region, but high-end stuff is a FRACTION of the costs elsewhere. Frankly, if a person is choosing between a cookie-cutter new home in Montgomery county and a cookie-cutter in Bowie for only 10-20% less, they should probably take the one in Mo. county for the schools.

The amazing thing about Prince George's county is that you can get things in PG that you couldn't dream of in Montgomery, Arlington, or Fairfax counties for anywhere close to the price. That's where PG excels and in some respects exceeds the neighboring jurisdistions. I've said it before and I will say it again: the various Tantallon neighborhoods (all of them: North, South, Potomac, Hills, Square, Preserve, Vista, et al) provide the best value in single-family homes in the entire Greater Washington Metropolitan. There are at least 8 reasons why: 1) 20-min to downtown; 2) Waterfront Properties; 3) Country Club; 4) many parks including a historic national park; 5) wildlife; 6) 3 marinas with available slips; 7) custom homes; and 8) raw land to builid your own home. Does that make it the Garden of Eden; of course not! (While crime isn't much of a problem there, you still have the school issue.) What it does make it is a very, very good option for people who want more for their money.

Sure some people will exaggerate and generalize along the lines of their own biases, but, with all of the negative press, what is the point in adding to it? This county has been beaten up long enough. That's the point of this thread. It IS time to stop denigrating PG county.
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Old 12-15-2007, 04:44 PM
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I was always taught that if you don't have anything nice to say about something, say nothing at all. Now I'm sure Prince George's County is not the best county in the state, and yes Prince George's County does have its problems, but nowhere near as it used to be, they are improving and I'm sure Montgomery County has its problems also, but that doesn't mean that we always have to be talking about the negatives because by doing that nothing gets accomplished, and I think it's time that the people of Prince Georges County started doing something about it, shouldn't make any difference the color of your skin or economic status, were all in the same county.
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There is so much negative information out there about PG that it is totally unnecessary to add to it. I must side with all but the most extreme boosters, because this county needs all the boosting it can get. I would never tell people that they should move to the projects in Seat Pleasant, but for the money some parts of PG are by far the best values in the region.

The county has by far the most residential waterfront of any other contiguous DC suburb. It is the only one that I know of where you can buy a horse farm ON the river without being on the Forbes wealthiest list. In Woodmore or Tantallon you can get a home ON the golf course for the price of a townhouse in Alexandria. The middle bracket homes aren't really that far behind other parts of the region, but high-end stuff is a FRACTION of the costs elsewhere. Frankly, if a person is choosing between a cookie-cutter new home in Montgomery county and a cookie-cutter in Bowie for only 10-20% less, they should probably take the one in Mo. county for the schools.

The amazing thing about Prince George's county is that you can get things in PG that you couldn't dream of in Montgomery, Arlington, or Fairfax counties for anywhere close to the price. That's where PG excels and in some respects exceeds the neighboring jurisdistions. I've said it before and I will say it again: the various Tantallon neighborhoods (all of them: North, South, Potomac, Hills, Square, Preserve, Vista, et al) provide the best value in single-family homes in the entire Greater Washington Metropolitan. There are at least 8 reasons why: 1) 20-min to downtown; 2) Waterfront Properties; 3) Country Club; 4) many parks including a historic national park; 5) wildlife; 6) 3 marinas with available slips; 7) custom homes; and 8) raw land to builid your own home. Does that make it the Garden of Eden; of course not! (While crime isn't much of a problem there, you still have the school issue.) What it does make it is a very, very good option for people who want more for their money.

Sure some people will exaggerate and generalize along the lines of their own biases, but, with all of the negative press, what is the point in adding to it? This county has been beaten up long enough. That's the point of this thread. It IS time to stop denigrating PG county.
You touched on a lot of revelvant issues pertaining to the county. However, your focus was stictly upon "Upper Middle Class" folks getting the best value for thier bucks in PG. While on the surface I agree with you, but the value to "upper middle class" residents comes at a steep cost when compared to other counties in the Metro Area, that are consider "upper middle class" (Moco, Fairfax, and now emerging Loudon).

You sacrafice the following if you're an "Upper Middle Class" person when moving to PG as opposed to Fairfax, Moco, or Loudon in the same desired type of location.

1. Choice of Great continuous Public Schooling for children. While PGC elemenatry schools located in the more "affluent" areas typically peform on Par with neighboring counties "affluent" elementary schools, you will notice a significant drop in grades around middle school at PGC publics schools that is exacerbated once high school starts. *I contribute this to the what i refer to as "the militant black thought" --the whole "black people do not make good grades bs starts to set in and the image of what defines "blackness" for the youth is paraded around by the militants.

2. Lack of shopping Amenities. I'm not even sure if PGC has a Whole Foods yet or a Trader Joes or any upscale grocery chains or any upscale shopping areas. You give up a lot of time traveling all the way to Tyson's Corner to get these things. The worst part of it all is that your hardworking money is going to benefit a county you do not reside in.

3. Crime, while not as relevant to PGC "Upper Middle Class" nonetheless can scare potential home buyers in the area. Reality is if PGC decided to allow towns to higher their own cops and police thier own reports you would see where most of the crime really happens in PGC and that it is not remotely an overall area problem. However, they prefer to attempt to police the entire area with county cops. Most crime in PGC tends to happen in the "poor, lower middle, and middle class neighborhoods" surrounding the inside of the beltway. However like sprite says "Image is everything." When a murder happens in District Heights the news rarely if ever reports it as exaclty that they typically say a murder in PGC and end it at that.

4. My biggest problem with PGC has been the large number of vocal "militant" blacks that live in the region. I just could not imagine raising my kids around these types of people. They are a server threat to "normal black" peoples existence. I could not see my children fitting in well once they have to assimilate to the public middle and high schools where they will be vastly outnumberd by the more militant black children. I can remember attending school in PGC and being the victim of "militant blacks" because you speak proper english, want to do well in school, dress "preppy" as opposed to a rap video thug, and any other silly superficial thing that the militant children deemed defining who is "black" and who is an "uncle tom." Worse part of this is a lot of the black administration is part of this group, so you're frankly damed if this is not how you were raised. If the administration happens to be white you're just as damed, because they group all black kids in the same group failing to see the difference in militants attacking "normal blacks." They just write it off as black on black nothing more. I just could not imagin subjecting my children to that sort of abuse. To put this in perspective i lived in predomintly white neighborhoods prior to a brief stint in PGC and there where a few kids that were racist, but they were usually vastly outnumberd by the non-racist whites (this was not in Maryland lol as i'm sure the racist whites are probably on par with the non racist in this state). Anyway my point here is to say that the racist white kids i encounted were no where near as destructive as militant black children were to other normal black children. They frankly terrorized us with teasing and physical threats of violence and a lot of times they acted upon those threats of violence. The militant blacks tend not to be very destructive to the white community at all, but they really target other non-militant "normal" black children hard and go after them with reckless abandon. Having never lived around other blacks that acted this way it is a very terrifying experience and something i would not want my children to go through. They are just a nasty bunch of people. I'm just sad to hear a lot of this is still going on in the county. Short of never allowing your children outside in the area how else do you put up a defense to this group? They currently have too much power in PGC.


Okay the reason you have the low values in PGC more affluent neighborhoods is simple.

1. Bias and willingness by most "upper middle class" whites, asians, and some blacks to pay a premium to live in other counties as opposed to PGC.

2. School probably is the ulitimate reason, that people choose to live elsewhere. Why pay 900,000 for a 10sq foot house when i'll end up paying another 10-20k a year to send my children to private school? I could just buy a 900,000 4 sq foot house in another county and send them to the local public school and feel very comfortable that they are recieving a great education.

3. Crime really does not affect upper middle class home buyers in PGC the way it will affect poor, lower, and middle class buyers. However it may affect thier children if they attend public school with the poorer and lower class children in PGC. These kids are a self hating violent bunch.

4. Again why pay 900,000 for a house when i have to spend 100% of my time shopping in areas outside of my own county. Not only would i be paying higher taxes in PG, but i'm now forced to give my money away to better other counties through my consumption.

Well you make a very valid point about the neighborhoods you mention when people are making rational decisions value and price in PGC is not an overall advantage. However, this is under the assumption you have children. I mean if you do not have children it is a totally different ball game as you have much more time to devoute to traveling around to buy things you like etc. The school system does not become an issue and in the more "affluent" areas crime is all but non-existent.

I just do not view PGC as a family friendly environment or a wholesome place to raise children. This has a lot to do with the "black militants" that inhabit the region in large numbers.

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Pg county is in the process of developing brand new shopping centers,malls such as National Harbor,Landover mall which is torn down and will become a brand new mall. I hate it when people say Pg county Affulant areas but in other county Its wealthy communities when income and lifestyle are the same. As for Black millitant student teasing other children please get real. I have yet to hear on the news a black child bringing a gun to school and went on a killing spree. I hear about white students getting teased by other white students which cause them to react by killing their peers,pupils or committing suicide. The problem with children getting tease is a major issue with all race but Whites students are more prune to react in a violent manner then Black students.
The problem with majority white communities is that they love to point the finger at Black communities. Black millitant students are worst then white millitant student but yet the media and the white communities are yet to see that all the school shootings are all by white students but yet we say Black millitant students are worst then white students. Since Columbine, How many Black students or majority Black communities have become victim of school shootings?
We focus on Pg County but yet on another post people in Montgomery county are complaining about crimes in the Lakeforest area and other areas in Montgomery why not post on that forum why talk about black millitant when white millitant students are shooting up malls,schools,killing their parents,committing suicide at a faster rate then any other race but yet people love to degrade black children.

I know someone will post I am racist because I say white children shoot up malls or schools when that have never ever happen. lol
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You touched on a lot of revelvant issues pertaining to the county. However, your focus was stictly upon "Upper Middle Class" folks getting the best value for thier bucks in PG. While on the surface I agree with you, but the value to "upper middle class" residents comes at a steep cost when compared to other counties in the Metro Area, that are consider "upper middle class" (Moco, Fairfax, and now emerging Loudon).
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I just do not view PGC as a family friendly environment or a wholesome place to raise children. This has a lot to do with the "black militants" that inhabit the region in large numbers.
Point taken, but as you said I was focusing on the higher-end values. Shopping and schools are "run of the mill" concerns. I am talking about truly exceptional amenities within the reach of normal income people. Normal people don't often have the option of waterfront, country club, or large acreage. Normal people have to focus on things like schools, metro access, and shopping because all of the homes they are steered toward are the same thing--cookie-cutter homes in cookie-cutter communities.

It is a value judgment and trade-off. I just think that for people that don't consider the PUBLIC schools to be the most important thing, PG offers fantastic value, which is often unknown, overlooked, minimized and overshadowed by negative propaganda. The truth that really hurts is the fact that public education in this country (not just in PG) has gone down the toilet. Spoiled children, disinterested parents, underpaid teachers, and over-emphasis on tests have all combined to put our nation's schools well behind many others in the world. Maybe we need to double teacher salaries and bring back paddling, but in any case the PG school problem is far from unique.

Home is what you make it. PG can be as family friendly as people make it.
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You touched on a lot of revelvant issues pertaining to the county. However, your focus was stictly upon "Upper Middle Class" folks getting the best value for thier bucks in PG. While on the surface I agree with you, but the value to "upper middle class" residents comes at a steep cost when compared to other counties in the Metro Area, that are consider "upper middle class" (Moco, Fairfax, and now emerging Loudon).

You sacrafice the following if you're an "Upper Middle Class" person when moving to PG as opposed to Fairfax, Moco, or Loudon in the same desired type of location.

1. Choice of Great continuous Public Schooling for children. While PGC elemenatry schools located in the more "affluent" areas typically peform on Par with neighboring counties "affluent" elementary schools, you will notice a significant drop in grades around middle school at PGC publics schools that is exacerbated once high school starts. *I contribute this to the what i refer to as "the militant black thought" --the whole "black people do not make good grades bs starts to set in and the image of what defines "blackness" for the youth is paraded around by the militants.

2. Lack of shopping Amenities. I'm not even sure if PGC has a Whole Foods yet or a Trader Joes or any upscale grocery chains or any upscale shopping areas. You give up a lot of time traveling all the way to Tyson's Corner to get these things. The worst part of it all is that your hardworking money is going to benefit a county you do not reside in.

3. Crime, while not as relevant to PGC "Upper Middle Class" nonetheless can scare potential home buyers in the area. Reality is if PGC decided to allow towns to higher their own cops and police thier own reports you would see where most of the crime really happens in PGC and that it is not remotely an overall area problem. However, they prefer to attempt to police the entire area with county cops. Most crime in PGC tends to happen in the "poor, lower middle, and middle class neighborhoods" surrounding the inside of the beltway. However like sprite says "Image is everything." When a murder happens in District Heights the news rarely if ever reports it as exaclty that they typically say a murder in PGC and end it at that.

4. My biggest problem with PGC has been the large number of vocal "militant" blacks that live in the region. I just could not imagine raising my kids around these types of people. They are a server threat to "normal black" peoples existence. I could not see my children fitting in well once they have to assimilate to the public middle and high schools where they will be vastly outnumberd by the more militant black children. I can remember attending school in PGC and being the victim of "militant blacks" because you speak proper english, want to do well in school, dress "preppy" as opposed to a rap video thug, and any other silly superficial thing that the militant children deemed defining who is "black" and who is an "uncle tom." Worse part of this is a lot of the black administration is part of this group, so you're frankly damed if this is not how you were raised. If the administration happens to be white you're just as damed, because they group all black kids in the same group failing to see the difference in militants attacking "normal blacks." They just write it off as black on black nothing more. I just could not imagin subjecting my children to that sort of abuse. To put this in perspective i lived in predomintly white neighborhoods prior to a brief stint in PGC and there where a few kids that were racist, but they were usually vastly outnumberd by the non-racist whites (this was not in Maryland lol as i'm sure the racist whites are probably on par with the non racist in this state). Anyway my point here is to say that the racist white kids i encounted were no where near as destructive as militant black children were to other normal black children. They frankly terrorized us with teasing and physical threats of violence and a lot of times they acted upon those threats of violence. The militant blacks tend not to be very destructive to the white community at all, but they really target other non-militant "normal" black children hard and go after them with reckless abandon. Having never lived around other blacks that acted this way it is a very terrifying experience and something i would not want my children to go through. They are just a nasty bunch of people. I'm just sad to hear a lot of this is still going on in the county. Short of never allowing your children outside in the area how else do you put up a defense to this group? They currently have too much power in PGC.


Okay the reason you have the low values in PGC more affluent neighborhoods is simple.

1. Bias and willingness by most "upper middle class" whites, asians, and some blacks to pay a premium to live in other counties as opposed to PGC.

2. School probably is the ulitimate reason, that people choose to live elsewhere. Why pay 900,000 for a 10sq foot house when i'll end up paying another 10-20k a year to send my children to private school? I could just buy a 900,000 4 sq foot house in another county and send them to the local public school and feel very comfortable that they are recieving a great education.

3. Crime really does not affect upper middle class home buyers in PGC the way it will affect poor, lower, and middle class buyers. However it may affect thier children if they attend public school with the poorer and lower class children in PGC. These kids are a self hating violent bunch.

4. Again why pay 900,000 for a house when i have to spend 100% of my time shopping in areas outside of my own county. Not only would i be paying higher taxes in PG, but i'm now forced to give my money away to better other counties through my consumption.

Well you make a very valid point about the neighborhoods you mention when people are making rational decisions value and price in PGC is not an overall advantage. However, this is under the assumption you have children. I mean if you do not have children it is a totally different ball game as you have much more time to devoute to traveling around to buy things you like etc. The school system does not become an issue and in the more "affluent" areas crime is all but non-existent.

I just do not view PGC as a family friendly environment or a wholesome place to raise children. This has a lot to do with the "black militants" that inhabit the region in large numbers.
A brutally accurate description of PGC, especially about the militant blacks. The truth does indeed hurt! Your kids (or future ones) are blessed to have a parent that cares for their well being.
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Oh boy! Just think, we get new shopping malls! Now if only we could relocate the militant thugs to elsewhere, I may actually leave Howard County.

Ok, lets apply "Iscalder logic" here. I read the Baltimore crime reports and I notice that over 90% of all reported crime involves blacks. So, by "Iscalder logic", I can assume that, if I were to send my kids to a predominately black school, they would be gang-raped, shot, stabbed, and drugged up. Won't somebody think of the children?

Honesty check... PG county sucks. It's overpriced, it's trashy, and it's crime-ridden. PG county's only shining beacon of hope is to singles without kids. The school district scares off most families, which will drive down property costs. As such, it's relatively cheap when compared to the surrounding areas. However, as with everything else in life, you get what you pay for.

Why would anybody ever pick PG county over Howard county? Hell, AA county has better stats than PG.

That said, every county and every city has a bad area. Of course this is all relative, but yes, even Ellicott City has a bad area (route 40, past 29). If you look hard enough, you can find bad parts to every city / county / state / country. Same with the good parts. However you need to look at how many bad parts you see to how many good parts you see.

The problem with black militants, such as Iscalder, is they hate to take responsibility for their own actions. Someone else did it to me, it's someone elses problem. Well that's how problems don't get solved. Taking responsibility is how they get solved.

So enjoy your brand-new PG-county shopping malls. Enjoy the roving bands of thugs and armed gangs. Enjoy your high rate of MS-13 killings. Enjoy the Crips and Bloods revival. Let me know how that works out for you, ok? I'll be staying in HC, avoiding the PG-county slums.

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Pg county is in the process of developing brand new shopping centers,malls such as National Harbor,Landover mall which is torn down and will become a brand new mall. I hate it when people say Pg county Affulant areas but in other county Its wealthy communities when income and lifestyle are the same. As for Black millitant student teasing other children please get real. I have yet to hear on the news a black child bringing a gun to school and went on a killing spree. I hear about white students getting teased by other white students which cause them to react by killing their peers,pupils or committing suicide. The problem with children getting tease is a major issue with all race but Whites students are more prune to react in a violent manner then Black students.
The problem with majority white communities is that they love to point the finger at Black communities. Black millitant students are worst then white millitant student but yet the media and the white communities are yet to see that all the school shootings are all by white students but yet we say Black millitant students are worst then white students. Since Columbine, How many Black students or majority Black communities have become victim of school shootings?
We focus on Pg County but yet on another post people in Montgomery county are complaining about crimes in the Lakeforest area and other areas in Montgomery why not post on that forum why talk about black millitant when white millitant students are shooting up malls,schools,killing their parents,committing suicide at a faster rate then any other race but yet people love to degrade black children.

I know someone will post I am racist because I say white children shoot up malls or schools when that have never ever happen. lol
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Oh so do black kids ever beat up whites on busses? Do black kids ever shoot white kids? Do black kids ever rape white girls? Since you brought up the race issue, I should point out that black kids shoot a whole lot more people than white kids do. Even if you throw in the mass-shootings caused by nut-cases, black kids take the cake, hands down.

So think before you bring up race. Every race, I don't care which you point to, has skeletons in the closet. Plus it truly makes you look like a racist idiot, no better than a klan member spouting garbage about "white power".

I will call you racist because you are. Not because you speak facts about white kids shooting up schools, which happens, but because you refuse to admit that blacks have ever caused any problems in the history of our great nation.

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Pg county is in the process of developing brand new shopping centers,malls such as National Harbor,Landover mall which is torn down and will become a brand new mall. I hate it when people say Pg county Affulant areas but in other county Its wealthy communities when income and lifestyle are the same. As for Black millitant student teasing other children please get real. I have yet to hear on the news a black child bringing a gun to school and went on a killing spree. I hear about white students getting teased by other white students which cause them to react by killing their peers,pupils or committing suicide. The problem with children getting tease is a major issue with all race but Whites students are more prune to react in a violent manner then Black students.
The problem with majority white communities is that they love to point the finger at Black communities. Black millitant students are worst then white millitant student but yet the media and the white communities are yet to see that all the school shootings are all by white students but yet we say Black millitant students are worst then white students. Since Columbine, How many Black students or majority Black communities have become victim of school shootings?
We focus on Pg County but yet on another post people in Montgomery county are complaining about crimes in the Lakeforest area and other areas in Montgomery why not post on that forum why talk about black millitant when white millitant students are shooting up malls,schools,killing their parents,committing suicide at a faster rate then any other race but yet people love to degrade black children.

I know someone will post I am racist because I say white children shoot up malls or schools when that have never ever happen. lol
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I couldn't agree more with this post. As with most areas, if half of the people who frequent them were to simply vanish, the quality of life would increase exponentially. Tis true, you get what you pay for.

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You touched on a lot of revelvant issues pertaining to the county. However, your focus was stictly upon "Upper Middle Class" folks getting the best value for thier bucks in PG. While on the surface I agree with you, but the value to "upper middle class" residents comes at a steep cost when compared to other counties in the Metro Area, that are consider "upper middle class" (Moco, Fairfax, and now emerging Loudon).

You sacrafice the following if you're an "Upper Middle Class" person when moving to PG as opposed to Fairfax, Moco, or Loudon in the same desired type of location.

1. Choice of Great continuous Public Schooling for children. While PGC elemenatry schools located in the more "affluent" areas typically peform on Par with neighboring counties "affluent" elementary schools, you will notice a significant drop in grades around middle school at PGC publics schools that is exacerbated once high school starts. *I contribute this to the what i refer to as "the militant black thought" --the whole "black people do not make good grades bs starts to set in and the image of what defines "blackness" for the youth is paraded around by the militants.

2. Lack of shopping Amenities. I'm not even sure if PGC has a Whole Foods yet or a Trader Joes or any upscale grocery chains or any upscale shopping areas. You give up a lot of time traveling all the way to Tyson's Corner to get these things. The worst part of it all is that your hardworking money is going to benefit a county you do not reside in.

3. Crime, while not as relevant to PGC "Upper Middle Class" nonetheless can scare potential home buyers in the area. Reality is if PGC decided to allow towns to higher their own cops and police thier own reports you would see where most of the crime really happens in PGC and that it is not remotely an overall area problem. However, they prefer to attempt to police the entire area with county cops. Most crime in PGC tends to happen in the "poor, lower middle, and middle class neighborhoods" surrounding the inside of the beltway. However like sprite says "Image is everything." When a murder happens in District Heights the news rarely if ever reports it as exaclty that they typically say a murder in PGC and end it at that.

4. My biggest problem with PGC has been the large number of vocal "militant" blacks that live in the region. I just could not imagine raising my kids around these types of people. They are a server threat to "normal black" peoples existence. I could not see my children fitting in well once they have to assimilate to the public middle and high schools where they will be vastly outnumberd by the more militant black children. I can remember attending school in PGC and being the victim of "militant blacks" because you speak proper english, want to do well in school, dress "preppy" as opposed to a rap video thug, and any other silly superficial thing that the militant children deemed defining who is "black" and who is an "uncle tom." Worse part of this is a lot of the black administration is part of this group, so you're frankly damed if this is not how you were raised. If the administration happens to be white you're just as damed, because they group all black kids in the same group failing to see the difference in militants attacking "normal blacks." They just write it off as black on black nothing more. I just could not imagin subjecting my children to that sort of abuse. To put this in perspective i lived in predomintly white neighborhoods prior to a brief stint in PGC and there where a few kids that were racist, but they were usually vastly outnumberd by the non-racist whites (this was not in Maryland lol as i'm sure the racist whites are probably on par with the non racist in this state). Anyway my point here is to say that the racist white kids i encounted were no where near as destructive as militant black children were to other normal black children. They frankly terrorized us with teasing and physical threats of violence and a lot of times they acted upon those threats of violence. The militant blacks tend not to be very destructive to the white community at all, but they really target other non-militant "normal" black children hard and go after them with reckless abandon. Having never lived around other blacks that acted this way it is a very terrifying experience and something i would not want my children to go through. They are just a nasty bunch of people. I'm just sad to hear a lot of this is still going on in the county. Short of never allowing your children outside in the area how else do you put up a defense to this group? They currently have too much power in PGC.


Okay the reason you have the low values in PGC more affluent neighborhoods is simple.

1. Bias and willingness by most "upper middle class" whites, asians, and some blacks to pay a premium to live in other counties as opposed to PGC.

2. School probably is the ulitimate reason, that people choose to live elsewhere. Why pay 900,000 for a 10sq foot house when i'll end up paying another 10-20k a year to send my children to private school? I could just buy a 900,000 4 sq foot house in another county and send them to the local public school and feel very comfortable that they are recieving a great education.

3. Crime really does not affect upper middle class home buyers in PGC the way it will affect poor, lower, and middle class buyers. However it may affect thier children if they attend public school with the poorer and lower class children in PGC. These kids are a self hating violent bunch.

4. Again why pay 900,000 for a house when i have to spend 100% of my time shopping in areas outside of my own county. Not only would i be paying higher taxes in PG, but i'm now forced to give my money away to better other counties through my consumption.

Well you make a very valid point about the neighborhoods you mention when people are making rational decisions value and price in PGC is not an overall advantage. However, this is under the assumption you have children. I mean if you do not have children it is a totally different ball game as you have much more time to devoute to traveling around to buy things you like etc. The school system does not become an issue and in the more "affluent" areas crime is all but non-existent.

I just do not view PGC as a family friendly environment or a wholesome place to raise children. This has a lot to do with the "black militants" that inhabit the region in large numbers.
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America points out all the truth,wrongs about blacks. We hear black children committing crimes but why have we not hear about these white children who are depress and committing suicide at a faster rate then any other race. Why have we not hear about how to solve the issue of white children killing massacre in schools. If one person tease a white child that child will shoot up teh entire school or mall and kill themself. Why can't whites just admit it that white children are more depress then ever which is causing a killing spree every month of the year. I am not saying black children do not commit crime. All race do commit crime but whites are more brutal with their killing, instead of harming that one person they will go on a killing spree and shoot every single person. People say black thugs but yet its the white innocent looking people who are shooting up the mall or shooting up their job of employment. I never said black children are perfect but lets not only point the finger at black children as if white children are 100% perfect and have never commit any type of crime. If their are Black millitant children their are also white millitant children. As a matter of fact white school age children have a higher percentage rate of committing suicide due to bullying by their same race class mates then Blacks same goes for White Adults. White Adults have a higher percentage rate then Blacks to commit suicide.

When it comes to murders,child molesters whites out number every race. Majority of blacks who are behind prison are their for drugs not murder but majority of whites who are behind bars are their for murders or molesting children. Both rac ehave their problems and issues. If I hear on the news, Rampage shooting in the mall we know its a white person before seeing the killer. If Meth lab in someone's house we know its a white person. If we hear A child Molester house was found with child porn, We know its a white person. If we hear on the news one person was found dead in their car due to a drug exchange, We know its a Black person but if we hear the entire residens on the street was just killed, oh its a white person. Blacks and whites both commit crimes but the crimes whites commit are excessive. I think whats destroying the black community is crack and young children selling at a young age. I know if a thug lives next door me the worst he might do is sell crack but if a white person becomes my neighbor he might target my son and try to rape,molest my son or kill his entire family.

I want to try to trust whites around my son the way I feel about blacks around my son but when i see a white men I see child molester. When I am in the mall and a white men looks at my son I always hold my son in my arms. My nightmare is a white men kidnapping my son,molesting him and getting rid of his body. I know I am not the only mother who feels this way especailly a black mother. Whenever something like this happens its always a white men who kidnapped these children,kill them or hold them hostage for yrs, molest them or get rid of their innocent body.I think the media is separating both race even more and it think it needs to stop.
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