stop denegrating PG county! (Hyattsville, Kettering: rent, gated, salary)

[ptsum]

Originally Posted by jessy0780

Did you not see the part in my post about ignorant people who dislike blacks just because of their skin color??? I think that you post without carefully reading the things you are responding to. I have made it pretty obvious my feeling about racism- in all forms- in my previous posts. When I read your post about being afraid of white men you see at the mall molesting your child, obviously I was offended. To think that you view men such as my husband, my father, my brothers as possible child molesters automatically because they are white, is not just insulting, but it's ignorant.
You can post whatever you want about how white people are horrible, and try to justify it by saying that people say bad things about black people, but no matter how you say it, its RACISM. You're no better than people who claim similar things about black people. Until you and other people(OF ALL RACES), who think about other races the way that you do stop thinking of each other as adversaries and begin to realize that we all deserve the same things, racism will never end.

Well said jessy, well said, and then my I add that people like her and her opinions only serve to undermine everything that the good people of all races in Prince George's County are trying to accomplish, and that's to work together for the betterment of the county and not have this unjustified fear of each other.

[ptsum]

Originally Posted by lscalder

If you read other member posts where they state, they do not want their children around Black millitant kids because Black millitant children are the worst when it comes to bulling. The article is about white children committing suicide at a higher rate then black children because of White millitant children. I guess no one find it offensive when someone reference to black children as Millitant kids but when I mention white children are much more millitant then Black children now I am the racist one.

Iscalder, In the memorable words of the King of Spain to the President of Venezuela, how about that you just, "Shut Up", and quit spreading your hate.

[DC's Finest]

This is my first post on this topic but I have been closely following it since the summer. PG County is like any other county in the nation. It has poor sections, working class sections, middle class and affluent gated communities. I think people in MD like to bash PG because it's bashable (if that's a word). Right now, the affluent parts of PG County is a bedroom community at best.

The inner beltway areas have been neglected by the county for decades. PG needs to stop blaming DC crime spillover for their problems. DC is quiclky gentrifying and building up. PG needs to do the same, but instead of reinvesting back into the county, the government has gotten in bed with these housing developers who don't care about the county at all and want to make a quick buck. The county seriously needs a central business district over a Metro station. Look at what the Metro has done for Arlington's Rosslyn to Ballston Corridor. PG needs a downtown like Bethesda. National Harbor is a start in the right direction.

People's opinions and feelings about certian areas are subjective. I have friends who live in NOVA and wonder why would anyone live in Anne Arundel County. Seriously, they bash the place like its Mayberry. I always take up for my MD counties. But, thats's their opinion. As a whole some of these post are rash generalizations.

[evilhomer1]

um troll alert?

Originally Posted by lscalder

I have no problem at all with my son having white friends as a matter of fact he do have white friends that he plays with. I do have a problem with whites on this forum who ONLy bash the black race and you pass those post to talk about my post why is that. Are you going to ignore the other posts that bash the entire black race and call our children Black millitant or the only issue you have is a Black person bashing t he white race. I goes both race if no one bash the Black race I will stop posting about the cazy whites. Why are you pretending as if nothing in my post is correct. Are you telling me that white teens do not have a higher suicide rate then black teens. I made my comments because other posters say Black millitant children are worst then white children but thats 100% wrong statement because the white children are committing suicide because of bulling. I would never teach my son not to like white or any other race but he will know the truth its out their in the world to know. I see posting who agree when a white person comment about blacks and you have never made a comment to them but yet out of all these post you only comment about my post. What I mention about whites are facts but maybe whites are not ready to face the truth. its not racist. It is a fact that 8 out of 10 suicide by teens are white how is that racist, people love to talk about facts when it comes to Blacks its racist to speak the facts about white as if they are better then us. My son is having his birthday party next month and I have invited all of his friends who are majority whites and I have no problem with them because I know his freinds parents accept us and would never think or say black millitant child.

[LoveMiiorHateMii]

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Reading you guys posts clearly makes me want to pull my hair out......41 pages of what?????

PG Bashing...If you want a Trader Joes find one and move into it!!!!

All I see is complaint after complaint...what are you going to do about it????

Nothing but continue to live in a place that you hate or talk about a place that pushes your buttons so bad...

If you live in PG and hate it so much then LEAVE!!!!!!!!!! ARRRRRRRGGGGG

Please...Please...Please Admin Shut this complaint ridden topic down... DOWN!!!

[expgc]

Originally Posted by LoveMiiorHateMii

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Reading you guys posts clearly makes me want to pull my hair out......41 pages of what?????

PG Bashing...If you want a Trader Joes find one and move into it!!!!

All I see is complaint after complaint...what are you going to do about it????

Nothing but continue to live in a place that you hate or talk about a place that pushes your buttons so bad...

If you live in PG and hate it so much then LEAVE!!!!!!!!!! ARRRRRRRGGGGG

Please...Please...Please Admin Shut this complaint ridden topic down... DOWN!!!

I agree and I disagree. I disagree that this topic should be shut down. PG county is a caldron of tensions between very different & clashing cultures and this needs to be talked about. Not all of the "talk" will be positive; thats what a forum is. I do agree with your statement of "what are you going to do about it". With a county that is majority black there are going to be changes that other races won't like just as when the county was majority white. My question is; Why are you white people still living in a majority black county when there are many majority white counties and states in America? If you don't care for the way black youths act towards whites then why live around them? If you feel threatened or intimidated by blacks or a gathering of blacks then move away. White flight has been going on in PGC since the late 60's, the whites who used to live in places like Capitol Heights, Landover, Clinton, have moved to Chesapeake Beach, Calvert and St. Mary's counties and the Eastern Shore all trying to flee the black majority that was bound to happen in PG county. Why are you whites hanging on to places where you are not wanted and where you are not willing to accept the new order and a new culture?

[kjg1963]

Originally Posted by expgc

I agree and I disagree. I disagree that this topic should be shut down. PG county is a caldron of tensions between very different & clashing cultures and this needs to be talked about. Not all of the "talk" will be positive; thats what a forum is. I do agree with your statement of "what are you going to do about it". With a county that is majority black there are going to be changes that other races won't like just as when the county was majority white. My question is; Why are you white people still living in a majority black county when there are many majority white counties and states in America? If you don't care for the way black youths act towards whites then why live around them? If you feel threatened or intimidated by blacks or a gathering of blacks then move away. White flight has been going on in PGC since the late 60's, the whites who used to live in places like Capitol Heights, Landover, Clinton, have moved to Chesapeake Beach, Calvert and St. Mary's counties and the Eastern Shore all trying to flee the black majority that was bound to happen in PG county. Why are you whites hanging on to places where you are not wanted and where you are not willing to accept the new order and a new culture?

I happen to be white. I have lived my whole life in PG County. I have no intention of leaving any time soon. I live here because this is my home. I don't care that it is majority black. I grew up in a majority black neighborhood and this is the life I know. I don't feel threatened by a group of young black males. I don't cross the road or walk the other way. I don't judge these kids because of the way they dress. I know more white wanna be thugs that I would distrust more.

I expect derogatory comments thrown my way once in a while. Our two races' comingled history is a very sad and brutal one. You can't get rid of centuries of victimization and racism. However, we are not our ancesters. But, for some reason, it really hurt me to hear someone say that I, because I was born white (no fault of my own), was not wanted. People fought long and hard for desegregation and here you are saying whites get out. Us blacks don't want you here and we want to be segregated again. Maybe some whites (not all) don't accept the changes, but you aren't either. You aren't accepting integration. Your statements are the same generalizations as others. You are generalizing that all whites don't want to be around blacks and that all blacks want whites to move away. You know, we're not all bad. We all don't have the mythical white privilege I keep hearing about. Some of us make good neighboors, co-workers, and friends. Then there are some that are just hopeless jerks. But that's not just whites. That's people in general.

[questioner2]

I was looking in Washingtonian Magazine and they had a list of the 100 best places to eat, not one was in PG County. With it being one of the richest counties in the nation, you would assume it had tons of great restaurants.

[lscalder]

Pg government is finally getting it together. In the spring of 08 we will have plenty of upscale restaurants and other attractions.

[truthhurts]

Originally Posted by questioner2

I was looking in Washingtonian Magazine and they had a list of the 100 best places to eat, not one was in PG County. With it being one of the richest counties in the nation, you would assume it had tons of great restaurants.

You raise a good point. When blacks self segragate themselves they give up a lot of privlidges and quality of life issues, that predomintely white affluent counties do not grapple with. For instances

Higher Taxes (to support the massive migration of poorer blacks, that middle and upper middle class blacks have to support)

Sub Par Community Services (bad policing, public works, public schooling etc)

Fine Dining (luxury shopping or fine dinning is all but out of the picture)

Drop in Housing prices (means a drop in overall black wealth)

It is part of the cost of self segregating. It is not different than forced segregation by whites years ago.

My opinion is that "affluent" blacks could do a lot better and live a lot more comfortable lives sprinkling themselves out in predomintely white affluent environments. (They would get better public schooling for thier children, lower taxes, better community services, better policing, better dining options, better shopping options, higher property values (would enjoy the same increases affluent whites receieve, etc) Again i said affluent so crime is pratically non-existent even in PGC affluent areas, so a reduction in crime would not be a benefit it would go withoutsaying lol.

The other issue seems to me if people in the county wanted mroe fine dinning and luxury shopping they probably could get it. If a large enough group of concerned citizens along with the county executive got together and put pressure on a few of these "upscale chains" and asked them to move and setup business in the county you might get a few of these stores.

From an economic stand point blacks spend more of thier hard earned savings than whites, because they tend not to invest as much etc, so the argument from PGC would seem to me to be very convincing based on black consumer trends. Merceds sells more cars per capita to blacks in the 100-150k range than it does to whites who have the same income etc.

I think most of these stores avoid PGC because of crime. If i was an exectuive i'd move my store to PGC as i think the benefit of profiting off of black dollars far outweighs the level of crime that could occur at my store.

Anyway questions for the board. What is the current tax rate on luxury stores and other sorts of luxury commercialization? Is PGC a tax friendly place for companies to set-up business?

If residents do not want low brow Applesbee's and Ruby Tuesdays filling every resturante choice within the county then they should petition it. It is just really sad that the "affluent" blacks and whites in PGC have to suffer because of the poorer blacks and whites that inhabit the inner beltway. The problem is that i have never noticed PGC attempt to drastically change or challenge the image being presented by the local news etc.

PGC reminds me of Brazil there's such a large difference in the have's and the have nots in the county. The black affluent live in gated communities send their kids to private school etc. While the black poor, lower, and middle have to suffer through terrible schools etc.... If someone took a median income of some of the towns in PGC verses other towns in Maryland they'd find that the outerbeltway areas are some of the "wealthiest" areas in the state of Maryland while the inner beltway areas, which are predominitely lower middle class and poor are some of the poorest areas in the state. PGC is really the story of two different counties. It's sort of like Alphretta, GA, but with affluent black people instead of affluent whites. The northern part of the county is rich and predomintely white and the southern part of the county is black and predomintely poor and lower middle class. Its funny how most stories make this distinction, because it fits teh stereotype to a T. White and affluent on one end and poor and black on the other. However PGC is poor black on one end and affluent black on the other. Does not fit the white liberal media stereotype nor the black militant stereotype could be a dangerous image to show the masses.