10-09-2007, 08:17 PM
Location: Southern New Hampshire
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We've done the relocation thing. Here's another angle...
10-10-2007, 05:23 AM
Location: Metrowest, MA
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Actually, there were many articles saying the best time for family with kids to move is during the school year. This way the kid does not sit around all summer hoping to find friends to do stuff with. It gives them a chance to meet other kids and know them before everyone goes away for the summer.
10-12-2007, 12:42 PM
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Hey everyone!
10-12-2007, 12:57 PM
Location: 42°22'55.2"N 71°24'46.8"W
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How did it go?
10-13-2007, 07:02 PM
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I agree with the school year thing. We moved to MA 10 years ago as my oldest was ready to start 1st grade. I wish we'd moved in Mar/Apr when my husband did rather than wait for him to finish the school year. Summer was tough!
10-15-2007, 07:45 AM
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Out of the pan & into the fire...
Hi-
Don't know how it went b/c it's still ongoing. My husband's future boss said he'd check with HR about relocation and call back... and it's been 7 days!
In the meantime I've done all this research so we could make intelligent, supported arguments for what we need.
Problem is, my husband thinks my research (and what you guys have said on the forum) is for people making 250K or something and doesn't want to price himself out of getting the job b/c it'll be too expensive to move us... ( and to be fair, several of the articles ARE geared towards people further up the food chain, but still...)
I am really, really frustrated, b/c we can NOT afford this move if we have to pay all this stuff ourselves. We will be in credit card debt up to our eyeballs, (as opposed to only our necks now
) and for years, and I'm really concerned.
Plus, on the cost-of-living issue,
He doesn't believe me that his commute will be at least twice as long. 30 minutes now... and NO WAY can we afford to live that close in (wouldn't that be either Brookline or somewhere urban with lousy schools?) ' will be lucky to keep it to 60 minutes, most likely will be 90 minutes at least...
twice as expensive, (based on train and parking from areas where we can afford to live)
that our heating bills will be 6x as much... (among other sources, I read on here someone paid $400 for each oil fill, 3x a month and my husband says they probably live in a mansion...)
And that we'll probably end up increasing our mortgage payments by at least $1,000/month to live in a place SMALLER than where we are now... (he says we'll just live further out... but further than 60-90 minutes??)
They have thrown an initial salary offering at him that is 50% more than what he makes now, but sure looks to me like our expenses are going up by
EASILY 50% or more, so.... it hasn't been very serene around here to put it mildly.
Don't want him to give this up b/c it is an AWESOME opportunity, but sure wish he wouldn't be so shy about this negotiation, either.
Wow, thanks for listening.
10-15-2007, 09:52 AM
Location: Metrowest, MA
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Quote:
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Patapsco
that our heating bills will be 6x as much... (among other sources, I read on here someone paid $400 for each oil fill, 3x a month and my husband says they probably live in a mansion...)
Your husband is probably correct... or the person turned his thermostat up to 90F or live in a house without insulations. Even with a fairly big house, most people use less than 1200 gallons a year (@$2.50-2.80/gallon). Granted... during the middle of winter... you may need to refill your oil tank every ~3 weeks.
In any case, you'll learn to turn down the heat (50-60F) when there is no one in the house or when you go to bed. You will learn quickly when you realized how expensive it could be.
10-15-2007, 11:33 AM
Location: 42°22'55.2"N 71°24'46.8"W
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They have thrown an initial salary offering at him that is 50% more than what he makes now, but sure looks to me like our expenses are going up by
EASILY 50% or more, so.... it hasn't been very serene around here to put it mildly.
Don't want him to give this up b/c it is an AWESOME opportunity, but sure wish he wouldn't be so shy about this negotiation, either.
Wow, thanks for listening.
Sounds like us when we first moved here. Got an offer that was 50% higher than we earned in Atlanta, but our expenses ended up going up by more than 50% so we had to learn to live on less. Plus we initially moved out to Hudson which is 90+ min outside of Boston in rush hour b/c it was cheaper, newer, and nicer. Then we eventually moved closer to Boston (in Newton) and settled in the smallest crappiest apartment I've ever seen in my life (and I used to audit public housing developments in Atlanta). At least the town is much nicer -- I try to stay away from my apt as much as possible
I forget where you said you were moving from, but good luck
It's tricky to find the right place from out of state. I would seriously consider renting first so you don't end up somewhere that will make you miserable. Especially if you're staying at home. It could be hard making friends if you're at home w/the kids in a rural area out by I-495. Just something to consider.
10-15-2007, 01:10 PM
Location: In my mind
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patapsco - just so you know my relocation package was not for a 250k job (I wish I made that much), it was for a 100k job. When I asked for the relocation package it took them sometime to look into this since they had never done it before. There ae certain gov't regulations that companies have to follow. It took almost 6 weeks for them to write up the package and get it approved. Worst case scenario is that they state they will only pay for certain things or up to a certain amount. Don't panic, if your husband hasn't heard back in a few days he should call them and ask where they stand on the relocation package issue. My pay was increased 23% ... I came from CA so the cost of living is pretty much the same. I don't think the gas or electricity will be that much more than I paid in CA. I found this apartment when I came out here for a house hunting trip and am very please with it. I live in Bedford and work in Lexington, so I have a short commute to work.
10-15-2007, 02:34 PM
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I have considered relo opportunities a few times, and with each I was offered the position but declined. Each of these was for a middle management position in med-large companies. When I received the offer package, there was information in there detailing what would be covered. This is your baseline ... much of it is negotiable. For example, I easily negotiated that they would cover moving two cars.
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Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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Out of the pan & into the fire...
) and for years, and I'm really concerned. 
I forget where you said you were moving from, but good luck 
