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Old 10-12-2007, 08:27 AM
 
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Default hunting in MA

However I don't see a problem with eating meat or hunting wild animals legally as long as the kill is clean, the meat eaten or donated to a shelter. It is perfectly natural for homo sapiens to be omnivores. And our bodies need the creatine that meat provides and it can't be sourced from plants.[/quote]


The problem with this is that so much hunting is just for sport, the animal is not eaten or donated, and animals are injured.

So, have fun hunters, teaching your kids what a blast it is to shoot animals, and make sure you don't shoot yourselves or them by accident. Meanwhile, I'm staying out of NH! Thanks for the warning!
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Old 10-12-2007, 08:31 AM
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Location: MA/NH
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You're probably best off considering something close to the Boston area, and well away from anything resembling rural or even suburban living. The occasional deer or moose that somehow finds it's way into the city will be taken care of by the police and not by those fat hunters... I haven't seen any deer strapped to hoods in the city (people maybe, but not deer)

Don't consider NH either, we don't even have gun laws like Massachusetts to "protect" our citizens from themselves, so you never know WHO's going to be carrying, or when. Scary, isn't it
Why are hunters being called fat in this thread? Stereotype much? Or maybe you're just a very skinny person.
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Old 10-12-2007, 09:35 AM
 
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I didn't get that either miu... I just thought it was kind of funny and perpetuated it in my post. I've actually seen very few fat hunters... There is alot of tracking and hiking well before hunting season (to find game trails, etc), spending hours in the cold damp rain or snow. It's not like you park your big ole' pickup truck on the side of the road, or go tearing through the woods and start blasting at anything that moves from the driver's seat.

I think it's probably just a stereotyping thing, you know, the fat hunters sitting around a lodge, drinking much beer and going out to hunt half in the bag themselves. I mean, I'm sure that happens, but it's certainly not typical.

There IS a type of hunting that I very much disapprove of (and EVERY hunter I know does as well.) Have you heard of the "Internet Hunt"? It's sort of a "remote controlled" hunt. You use a mouse to fire a weapon that is mounted on a mechanized tripod at a remote location, usually a game ranch where exotic animals are kept penned and shot at close range. The customer signs up through a web site, and pays a user fee and a deposit for the animal that he or she wishes to kill. The animal is lured to a feeding station within range of the mounted rifle. When the animal approaches, the desktop hunter uses the computer mouse to line up the cross hairs and fire the rifle. Guides at the game ranch will finish the job if the shot misses. Trophy mounts are prepared at the ranch and shipped to the customer. Now THAT is something to be complaining about!
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Old 10-12-2007, 11:18 AM
 
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The problem with this is that so much hunting is just for sport, the animal is not eaten or donated, and animals are injured.
Where did you read this problem? All hunters enjoy the sport and consume their game. I see it as a figment of your biased imagination. IMO, your a troll! Starting a thread with little true knowledge on the subject matter only to create flaming and defensive replies for your entertainment.
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Old 10-12-2007, 01:23 PM
 
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How do you know that ALL hunters consume their game? I think YOU are hallucinating. I'm not entertained by this. I'm saddened, because I love being in nature and rural areas, but I'm stuck living near an ugly city so I don't have to see or hear hunters. I'm not looking for this kind of fun. It's painful.
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:47 PM
 
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How do you know that ALL hunters consume their game? I think YOU are hallucinating. I'm not entertained by this. I'm saddened, because I love being in nature and rural areas, but I'm stuck living near an ugly city so I don't have to see or hear hunters. I'm not looking for this kind of fun. It's painful.
How many times have you seen a hunter leave their kill without eating the meat?
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Old 10-12-2007, 03:10 PM
 
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How do you know that ALL hunters consume their game? I think YOU are hallucinating. I'm not entertained by this. I'm saddened, because I love being in nature and rural areas, but I'm stuck living near an ugly city so I don't have to see or hear hunters. I'm not looking for this kind of fun. It's painful.
Ok, I apologize for my failure to thoroughly read all your replies. I've hunted and fished the Commonwealth for 25 years and I've never heard of hunters kill for the sake of killing. Criminals kill for the sake of killing.

There are no-hunt towns in the metro-west area that you should look into if you dis-like the city so much. I don't know off hand but the internet should help you. Please seek some consoling, don't let it eat you away. I've lost a dear adult brother to depression, it surfaced out of the blue, hereditary they say and I don't wish it on anyone including you. Good day.

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Old 10-12-2007, 06:14 PM
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Location: MA/NH
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I've been reading the posts on the Vermont site and a lot of people mention hunting, and seeing deer strapped to cars in front of convenience stores.
Are any areas in MA like that? Specifically, Amherst/Northamton, or the Cape? I know there is hunting allowed (or there used to be) at the National Seashore. Is this a prevalent site in parts of MA? I'd like to move to MA but don't want an area where hunting is so commonplace. Thanks.

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The problem with this is that so much hunting is just for sport, the animal is not eaten or donated, and animals are injured.

So, have fun hunters, teaching your kids what a blast it is to shoot animals, and make sure you don't shoot yourselves or them by accident. Meanwhile, I'm staying out of NH! Thanks for the warning!
You are making A LOT of ASSumptions here. First, if you are seeing dead deer strapped to cars... that means that the hunter is taking it home to be eaten. Secondly, I do know a few hunters and they do not paint their faces and whoop it up while running through the forest looking for deer to shoot up. If they did that, they would never find any deer to shoot. Hunting is quite a serious affair requiring stealth, patience and knowledge of your intended prey's habits.

I really think that you are winding yourself up into a tizzy unnecessarily about how you think people hunt for deer and other game. It's not as if you have any first hand experience even accompanying a group of hunters. BTW my stepdad's family all used to hunt. It was especially important to his grandparents that lived in the Big Sur area of CA before Highway 1 was built. What they hunted was dinner.
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Old 10-12-2007, 06:44 PM
 
Location: hinesburg, vt
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However I don't see a problem with eating meat or hunting wild animals legally as long as the kill is clean, the meat eaten or donated to a shelter. It is perfectly natural for homo sapiens to be omnivores. And our bodies need the creatine that meat provides and it can't be sourced from plants.

The problem with this is that so much hunting is just for sport, the animal is not eaten or donated, and animals are injured.

So, have fun hunters, teaching your kids what a blast it is to shoot animals, and make sure you don't shoot yourselves or them by accident. Meanwhile, I'm staying out of NH! Thanks for the warning![/quote]

Better stay out of Vermont too. You don't even need a concealed carry permit for a handgun here. Having grown up in NYC, lived in NH for seven years, Alaska for over twenty, I have found that Vermont by far has been the safest place to be. It's not so much the guns that are the problem, it's the people who live in certain places. All the legislation and laws in the world will never stop guns from getting into the hands of people who will abuse them.
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Old 10-12-2007, 11:05 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Many animals suffer prolonged, painful deaths when they are injured but not killed by hunters.
Virtually all animals suffer prolonged painful deaths when they die by natural causes.
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