Should CT be considered part of New England? (Boston, Worcester: area code, airport)

[clevedark]

I always snicker (to myself) when people who live in S. CT, like Fairfield County, I guess, and Greenwich et. al. say they live in New England. They so totally do not. They live in a NYC suburb.

[holden125]

Originally Posted by clevedark

I always snicker (to myself) when people who live in S. CT, like Fairfield County, I guess, and Greenwich et. al. say they live in New England. They so totally do not. They live in a NYC suburb.

Agree, but I have noticed a difference in the look of Fairfield County towns compared to Westchester County towns. The CT towns look more New England than the NY towns.

Westport, CT: hy2071 on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Wakeman House on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Larchmont & New Rochelle, NY: larchmont ave. church on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
summer time. on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

[clevedark]

Oh yes, in appearance, yes, no argument there. Some parts of Ohio also look alot like New England, architecturally, too!

[holden125]

Originally Posted by clevedark

Oh yes, in appearance, yes, no argument there. Some parts of Ohio also look alot like New England, architecturally, too!

Some parts of Ohio have New England roots. Assuming Connecticut counts as New England (which I think it probably did back in the 18th century). Connecticut's British land grant gave it rights to all land from the 41st to the 42nd parallel north latitude heading westward. That covered the stretch of downstate New York from the CT line to the Delaware River, but also the northern swaths of Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois. NY had a competing claim to the land heading north from NYC, so CT abandoned that part, and soon settled with PA as well. CT then gave most of its land west of the PA/OH border to the US federal government in the 1780s to pay off Revolutionary War debt.

For another ten or fifteen years, however, CT held on to the northeastern part of Ohio, which was called the Connecticut Western Reserve (thus Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland). Cleveland itself was a Connecticut product, since its founder Moses Cleaveland was a CT native sent by the Connecticut Land Company, which CT created to survey and sell off the land in Ohio, which CT got tired of dealing with. A lot of early settlers came from Connecticut and the New England influence is seen in the town layouts and architecture in this area. There are also Connecticut-inspired place names there like Trumbull, Conneaut, Hartford, Saybrook, Dorset, New Lyme, Windsor, Yankee Lake, Windham, Southington, Farmington, Madison, Hambden, Middlefield, etc.

[clevedark]

OK, so does that mean Ohio is part of New England, too? (smiley face)

[holden125]

Originally Posted by clevedark

OK, so does that mean Ohio is part of New England, too? (smiley face)

Back in the days of aggressive territorial expansion we still wanted it, but figured out even back in 1795 that it wasn't worth the trouble. Now I'd say we should pass and make a play for Hawaii instead.

[goredsox]

actualy, i think that everything west of the hudson and north of the bronx and parts of westchester county such as mount vernon and yonkers, should be considered new enland

[TomDot]

Connecticut is one of the New England States all the way to Greenwich! It may also lie in the New York Metro Area but the two are not mutually exclusive.
They can be both just like Manchester, NH is in the Boston Metro Area but it is also part of New Hampshire.

[clevedark]

Oh no, you're wrong, New England and New York are mutually exclusive. Way. Except for the Berkshires and Vermont--that's where they merge.

[teachertype]

Originally Posted by TomDot

Manchester, NH is in the Boston Metro Area

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This is one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever seen. Manchester, NH is in no way part of the metro Boston area. Not even remotely, by any stretch of the imagination.