Should CT be considered part of New England? (Boston, Worcester: living in, office)

[TomDot]

Originally Posted by teachertype

This is one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever seen. Manchester, NH is in no way part of the metro Boston area. Not even remotely, by any stretch of the imagination.

Sorry. It is a part of the Boston's Combined Statistical Area.

BTW, What do you call that airport up there in Manchester?

[holden125]

Originally Posted by TomDot

Sorry. It is a part of the Boston's Combined Statistical Area.

BTW, What do you call that airport up there in Manchester?

It is officially in the Boston census area. It's also basically the same distance from Boston as Worcester and Providence. There are plenty of people working in and near boston who commute from Derry or Nashua, which are just a stone's throw from Manchester. It's got its own vibe but the Boston metro is definitely creeping up that way.

[westernmass101]

CT is part of NE always has always will. It's just one of those transition states the northern half is more New England while the Southern half is more NY and NJ.

[teachertype]

Originally Posted by TomDot

Sorry. It is a part of the Boston's Combined Statistical Area.

BTW, What do you call that airport up there in Manchester?

What I call that airport up there in Manchester is..."a long way from Boston" and Logan is the Boston area airport, NOT Manchester.

About Manchester being part of the Boston area for the US Census, etc., I believe the northeast regional office handles all of New England. Saying Manchester is part of the Boston metro area is like saying Greenwich, CT, Ellsworth, ME, and Brattleboro, VT are all part of the Boston metro area (which they very well may be in terms of the northeast regional census).

Nothing against Manchester,NH, it's a perfectly fine place but it is NOT in any way part of the Boston metropolitan area. Different state, different area code, different politics, vibes. And, the Boston Metro area, in general, is the 617 area code.

[7 Wishes]

Originally Posted by westernmass101

CT is part of NE always has always will. It's just one of those transition states the northern half is more New England while the Southern half is more NY and NJ.

I almost agree. My take:

1) Fairfield County is NY/NJ metro, not New England (though a little bit of "transition" in the architecture)

2) The I-91 corridor from New Haven to Enfield is the NY/NE "fault line" or transition, a little of both (i.e. their local stations and newspapers highlight both the NY and Boston sports teams).

3) The rest of the state east of that is fully New England.

[teachertype]

Status seeking wannabe Connecticut people might prefer to think of themselves as part of New England but those of us from the five true and valid New England states know better... suburb of NYC, always was, always will be.

[TheWereRabbit]

Originally Posted by teachertype

And, the Boston Metro area, in general, is the 617 area code.

No. Noooooo.

ALL of 781 is unquestionably the Boston metro. Do you really think Medford or Revere are not in the Boston metro?

if we must do this by area code than the areas that are DEFINITELY metro boston are 617,781, and parts of 508 and 351. The debatable areas are the remaining portions of 508 and 351 along with parts of NH and RI.


Manchester, NH is considered part of the CSA because of the number of people who commute between the two areas.

[holden125]

Originally Posted by teachertype

About Manchester being part of the Boston area for the US Census, etc., I believe the northeast regional office handles all of New England. Saying Manchester is part of the Boston metro area is like saying Greenwich, CT, Ellsworth, ME, and Brattleboro, VT are all part of the Boston metro area (which they very well may be in terms of the northeast regional census).

This is a totally different thing. The census office might handle all six states, but all six states are not included in the Boston CSA. The Census's Boston Metropolitian Statistical Area includes Boston and a lot of suburbs, including some in NH and many not in 617. It does not include Manchester or Worcester, which have their own "MSA." The Boston-Worcester-Manchester Combined Statistical Area includes both of those cities and some towns near them, but does not include anything near as far as Greenwich, Ellsworth, or Brattleboro. Government pay charts refer to the area as Boston-Worcester-Manchester, MA-NH-ME-RI.

They do the same in New York, where it's the New York-Newark-Bridgeport CSA and includes parts of NY, NJ, CT and even PA, which is at least 70-75 miles from New York City. Manchester is barely 50 from Boston.

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by teachertype

Status seeking wannabe Connecticut people might prefer to think of themselves as part of New England but those of us from the five true and valid New England states know better... suburb of NYC, always was, always will be.

LOL - "Status seeking?" What "status" is there with New England? If anything, the "status seeking" folks are in the NYC suburbs, my friend. Come down to Fairfield County and look at the amount of pretentious behavior.

Originally Posted by holden125

They do the same in New York, where it's the New York-Newark-Bridgeport CSA and includes parts of NY, NJ, CT and even PA, which is at least 70-75 miles from New York City. Manchester is barely 50 from Boston.

You can't use mileage as a comparison simply because of the sheer size of the NYC metro - population is many times that of Boston.

[holden125]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

You can't use mileage as a comparison simply because of the sheer size of the NYC metro - population is many times that of Boston.

Granted, but the Poconos are part of the NYC metro in the same way that Manchester is part of the Boston metro. It's a haul and has a totally different feel, but some people from the city have moved out there and some do the commute. Personally I'd never do either commute if I could avoid it.