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Old 03-16-2017, 12:37 PM
 
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WOW! What a shame. I was a summer cop down there many decades ago, never saw anything like that. Cape Cod is becoming Cape City. Massachusetts's Coney Island. The strip joint town in Western Mass is not looking as bad now.
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Old 03-16-2017, 01:05 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Would you prefer them to be living on the streets?
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Old 03-16-2017, 02:15 PM
 
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Would you prefer them to be living on the streets?
Massachusetts stopped using motels as homeless shelters. The number has gone from 1,500 families statewide when Baker took office to 70 as of last week.

https://efficientgov.com/blog/2017/0...less-shelters/
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Old 03-16-2017, 02:16 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Massachusetts stopped using motels as homeless shelters. The number has gone from 1,500 families statewide when Baker took office to 70 as of last week.

https://efficientgov.com/blog/2017/0...less-shelters/
So they aren't welfare motels, as claimed. Glad that is thrown out.
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Old 03-16-2017, 02:33 PM
 
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Most likely migrant workers, transient types...


Also lots of drug trade/transactions going on in those places down there.
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Old 03-17-2017, 09:24 AM
 
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Turtleboy may be on to something after all about Western Massachusetts.
These news passages are about 5 years ago but guessing like cockroaches, when you get gangs in a community,they dont go away, they just grow in numbers. Nestled away in the beautiful Western Massachusetts Berkshires, the tiny towns of Greenfield and Turner Falls,Massachusetts, a far cry away from the big problems of the big urban cities.......NOT :



'WWLP Channel 32 Springfield ,Massachusetts: "Gang members don't just live in the larger communities of western Massachusetts anymore" Turners Falls] has now become the site of gang-related activity for Springfield groups such as the Bloods, Crypts.. Latin Kings in Turners Falls are from Puerto Rico and Springfield; there are confirmed gang members in Greenfield and Turners Falls.'"

Masslive
"'Turners Falls police received a call from Greenfield police: they'd heard that three carloads of kids from Springfield were headed up 1-91, with plans to retaliate against someone for a shooting'"

"' there are confirmed gang members in Greenfield and Turners Falls,'"

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Old 03-17-2017, 09:41 AM
 
Location: MetroWest Boston
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I've only realized recently that if you live in an affluent suburb, the whole road system is designed so that you really never have to go through bad areas. Live in Wellesley? Just take 16 into Newton and the Pike into Cambridge/Boston (and the nice part at that). Take 9 out to 27 and then go North into Wayland, Sudbury, and Lincoln. Take 9 to 95 and go South to the Cape. Literally nothing leads you to Fitchburg unless you specifically intend to go.
I don't think the road system was designed to avoid the bad areas, but rather, that the 'bad areas' were partially developed as a result of less road system access. Things as seemingly minor as access to Boston and the GBA are, ultimately, huge factors on towns in the area. Not only does better road access reduce commutes and increase desirability of the area, but, it also attracts more businesses to the area because of ease of access for customers, or visibility to customers, etc. Both of these things ultimately have effects on the communities. They are not the only driver, but they are a big part.
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Old 03-17-2017, 10:15 AM
 
Location: North Quabbin, MA
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Nope Greenfield and Turners Falls are on the Connecticut River which is still 35+ miles to the Berkshires. And yes there are gang members but not overrunning the place yet.
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Old 03-17-2017, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit
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The whole NE is like that, one big ghetto, with a few prosperous places, where everyone wants to live, but cannot afford. Midwest is not far.
I can't speak for the Northeast, but you've pretty much got it backward when it comes to the Midwest - isolated ghettos and a bunch of nice places where people want to live, and just about everyone can afford.

The Midwest has ghettos, absolutely, the inner-cities of large Midwestern cities are sketchy AF, but then you go pretty much anywhere else in the metro areas and you have a never ending sprawl of affordable, beautiful areas. Detroit is a great example of this - everyone knows about the ghetto, what people don't know is that you can buy a beautiful, well-maintained 1,200 square foot bungalow, with a yard, in a town with a great school district for $150,000. Got a bit more money? You can live in a sprawling mansion on an acre for about 3/4 a million. Fancy urban living? You can still find an upscale 2 bedroom Downtown loft for half a million, or rent for $1500 a month. Prefer more of a small-town "Main Street" feel? You can get lofts in one of the region's suburban Downtown areas for around the same price, or buy a home $250,000.

I don't imagine the Northeast is far off once you get outside of NYC/Boston/DC and into less image-based cities like Philly, Baltimore, Worcester, Providence, or Bridgeport - but I'm sure many of you could speak more to this than I.
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Old 03-17-2017, 05:56 PM
 
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To be honest simply being in a gang is not a crime. Now if they do things and frankly you have to keep in mind what is and isn't can be a blur. Hell's Angels for example has some chapters that are actually pretty nice and others well... What's the difference between a group and a gang? Simply being armed?

I agree with Geo. Detroit is huge. You can fit all of SF, Boston and Manhattan and still have room. You can take a photo of something and yeah that might look bad but zoom out. I have a closed down school near me yeah it's bad.. but at the same time across the street is the new school. You can't miss it. The buildings are even addressed as the "old" and "new".

I wouldn't say that "everyone" wants to live in say Boston otherwise they'd build more housing for the area. They have a interest in keeping housing high so they don't build as much.
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