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Old 03-09-2018, 12:32 PM
 
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If you like walking, Agawam might be a good option. Its safe, across the bridge, and has a large, riverfront, paved walking/bike trail that also connects with parks on either end. If you need good schools, Agawam is only middle of the road in the area though. It also has a state park in the feeding hills section(Robinson State Park). I am not sure taking the bus is a conventient option, although it does come to Agawam.
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Old 03-09-2018, 01:58 PM
 
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Living downtown or near Forest Park gives OPs wife, who doesn't drive, a more walkable place to live than Agawam.
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Old 03-09-2018, 02:06 PM
 
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My wife got a job on Main St. She doesn't drive so I want to live within walking distance of there (15 min or so). I have habit of walking 5 miles a day * 2. Is it safe for a walk? So my general concern is how bad is downtown Springfield?
Without a doubt, Springfield has the saddest downtown I have ever experienced. If you read between the lines of prior posters, they make clear the place is pretty grim. I was working in downtown Springfield for a time, and it was as though every opioid addict in Pioneer Valley congregated there during the daytime. Not pretty, and I'm not one given to hyperbole where cities are concerned.

Here are some anecdotes: One day, I decided to take a stroll across the Connecticut River to W. Springfield. This happened around noon and I was tailed by two guys at different points in my stroll. That is not anything I've ever experienced anywhere else, including Cleveland and the South Side of Chicago. On another occasion, I decided to go to a barber on Main Street. While I was there, a middle-aged woman came into the shop and passed out in the waiting chairs. The barber's take? "It happens all the time."

Just to clarify, nothing overtly bad ever happened to me, but I felt as though I had to be on my guard at all times. YMMV, but I wouldn't just "stroll" around Springfield for exercise, unless I was in fit condition to run!
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Old 03-09-2018, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Springfield and brookline MA
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Without a doubt, Springfield has the saddest downtown I have ever experienced. If you read between the lines of prior posters, they make clear the place is pretty grim. I was working in downtown Springfield for a time, and it was as though every opioid addict in Pioneer Valley congregated there during the daytime. Not pretty, and I'm not one given to hyperbole where cities are concerned.

Here are some anecdotes: One day, I decided to take a stroll across the Connecticut River to W. Springfield. This happened around noon and I was tailed by two guys at different points in my stroll. That is not anything I've ever experienced anywhere else, including Cleveland and the South Side of Chicago. On another occasion, I decided to go to a barber on Main Street. While I was there, a middle-aged woman came into the shop and passed out in the waiting chairs. The barber's take? "It happens all the time."

Just to clarify, nothing overtly bad ever happened to me, but I felt as though I had to be on my guard at all times. YMMV, but I wouldn't just "stroll" around Springfield for exercise, unless I was in fit condition to run!

This whole post is hyperbole, downtown is safe to walk around. It's kind of empty at night, but still not any more dangerous than any city.

West Springfield is like night and day. Just your run of the mill suburb.
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Old 03-09-2018, 02:27 PM
 
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This whole post is hyperbole, downtown is safe to walk around. It's kind of empty at night, but still not any more dangerous than any city.

West Springfield is like night and day. Just your run of the mill suburb.
Good ... you go hang out there then. NO HYPERBOLE AT ALL. It's as though a psychiatric facility empties all of its day patients out onto the streets every day. It would be difficult to overstate how bad Springfield is, unless you're comparing it to a place like Flint, MI. But then, I haven't been there. Even Hartford, as awful as it is, has more going for it.
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Old 03-09-2018, 02:28 PM
 
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Living downtown or near Forest Park gives OPs wife, who doesn't drive, a more walkable place to live than Agawam.
I changed my mind after hearing comparisons to bad cities in NJ that I know, not worth taking a risk. I'll stick with picking/dropping her off with my car.
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Old 03-09-2018, 02:37 PM
 
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Good ... you go hang out there then. NO HYPERBOLE AT ALL. It's as though a psychiatric facility empties all of its day patients out onto the streets every day. It would be difficult to overstate how bad Springfield is, unless you're comparing it to a place like Flint, MI. But then, I haven't been there. Even Hartford, as awful as it is, has more going for it.
Don't worry, the casino will fix EVERYTHING! LOL
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Old 03-09-2018, 06:35 PM
 
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Don't worry, the casino will fix EVERYTHING! LOL
Aw c’mon! Casino jobs pay $45K according to our Springfield fan. After you back out 6.2% for FICA, 1.45% for Medicare, 5.10% to the People’s Republic, and a bit of Federal tax, that’s a whopping $3,000 per month. When is the Ferrari-Lamborghini dealership opening? LOL

I’m always amazed at how few cars are on the road in Springfield. At least a pedestrian doesn’t have to worry about getting run over.
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Old 03-11-2018, 06:51 PM
 
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There is plenty of cars in the area. It's nothing like NJ.

How about I put a video up later tomorrow?

The average for MGM is 45k. Teachers easily make 50k. Then there is the medical, financial and non profits. CRRC MA pays 55-65k.

The downtown is pretty quiet and safe. Crime is going further out. I've lived and worked in the downtown for three years and I come from eastern Mass.
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Old 03-12-2018, 11:19 PM
 
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Well for what it is worth here's a bit of a tour of the place. Earlier today I made about 19 videos. Keep in mind it's pretty quiet as it was about 6pm. As mentioned it is largely governmental and non profit based.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_AY3...RN15z9UewxcW2j

Minor correction. That's the community music school but it is for middle schoolers. Escape room is actually rooms. There are five of them.

Once the snow melts I could probably show Matoon, the waterfront and Victorian areas.
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