Individual Votes By Cities/Towns Whether To Allow Marijuana businesses (Brockton: crime rates, to live)

[timberline742]

Originally Posted by wror

https://www.google.com/search?q=mari...HfBxAZoQpwUIDw

https://www.bing.com/news/search?q=j...6C8655596F3404

Better get away from places that sell jewelry too. Jewelry stores will ruin towns! People will invade homes for jewelry! Don't be around people with JEWELRY!!!

[redplum33]

Originally Posted by timberline742

Better get away from places that sell jewelry too. Jewelry stores will ruin towns! People will invade homes for jewelry! Don't be around people with JEWELRY!!!

While I do realize you're just trying to be funny, the jewelry analogy is just as poor now as it was 150 posts ago when you first made it.

Why?

1) Because stolen jewelry can only be sold for a tiny fraction of its value.

2) There is a lot of risk involved with selling stolen jewelry.

3) Jewelry owners won't hesitate to call the police.

[B2dathird]

Originally Posted by redplum33

Nobody wants to share their thoughts about July 1st?

I may have to postpone my budcation

[timberline742]

Originally Posted by redplum33

While I do realize you're just trying to be funny, the jewelry analogy is just as poor now as it was 150 posts ago when you first made it.

Why?

1) Because stolen jewelry can only be sold for a tiny fraction of its value.

2) There is a lot of risk involved with selling stolen jewelry.

3) Jewelry owners won't hesitate to call the police.

It's all profit if its stolen, so mark up/mark down doesn't matter relative to it's cost. Selling a $2000 piece of jewelry for $200 is more profitable than selling $150 worth of weed for $150. Duh.

There is risk with illegally selling drugs. There is risk in any criminal activity.

Legal weed growers or purchasers won't hesitate either to call if their homes are broken into. Illegal dealers will, and look, that's been an issue, which is why legalizing is the way to go, so crime will be reduced and the criminal element.

Someday you'll get something right. Maybe.

[wror]

Originally Posted by redplum33

wror, the reality is: for every marijuana related home invasion you hear about, there are likely dozens you don't hear about. It is very common, and you'll only hear about the ones where something went very wrong. The vast majority of marijuana related home invasions go under the radar because the victim doesn't call the police.

And, yes, this mostly involves illegal dealers. But I do believe it's relevant to this discussion.

Anybody with knowledge and motivation can now legally grow in their Massachusetts home more than enough high quality marijuana to legitimately put themselves at risk for a violent home invasion.

I happen to be very well verse everything crime and POT.
I could post a Facebook thread with dozens of posters revealing/complaining to each other about their outdoor pot plants being stolen. Some posters saying 'why do they have to steal, i would give to them for free' Yet, POT stealers would rather steal it.

There is one Sheriff that said about 4 months ago: there have been several home burglaries of criminals stealing marijuana.----Yet, when i conduct a deep search, i can not find any related-news stories of the home burglaries in the county. As you said redplum33 : " for every marijuana related home invasion you hear about, there are likely dozens you don't hear about"

With 30 days after the Ma "weed" stores open, i concede now, will not be able to keep up with posting them all.
Eventually in Massachusetts, home invasions of POT will just become a normal occurrence in a legal POT world.

[GeePee]

Originally Posted by wror

Some posters saying 'why do they have to steal, i would give to them for free' Yet, POT stealers would rather steal it.

Any time you start to to almost make a valid point, it all gets flushed down the toilet because of stuff like this.

I live near a bus stop, so i probably wouldn't grow weed outside my house, for the same reasons I don't leave my bike, lawnmower or even a full case of beer.

[redplum33]

Originally Posted by redplum33

While I do realize you're just trying to be funny, the jewelry analogy is just as poor now as it was 150 posts ago when you first made it.

Why?

1) Because stolen jewelry can only be sold for a tiny fraction of its value.

2) There is a lot of risk involved with selling stolen jewelry.

3) Jewelry owners won't hesitate to call the police.

Originally Posted by timberline742

It's all profit if its stolen, so mark up/mark down doesn't matter relative to it's cost. Selling a $2000 piece of jewelry for $200 is more profitable than selling $150 worth of weed for $150. Duh.

Yes, it's all profit, but your choice to use $2000 in jewelry and $150 in weed in your example is ridiculous. $150 in (quality) weed is 1/2 oz at best. Paraphrasing you from earlier in this thread: nobody breaks into a house for a half ounce of weed.


I'd also argue that you're unlikely to get $200 for a $2000 piece of jewelry. Maybe $50? Crooks only get like $20 for stolen iPhones.

Originally Posted by timberline742

There is risk with illegally selling drugs. There is risk in any criminal activity.

I don't disagree, but there's far more risk walking into a pawn store to sell stolen jewelry than there is when selling some weed to a buddy. Night and day difference.

Originally Posted by timberline742

Legal weed growers or purchasers won't hesitate either to call if their homes are broken into. Illegal dealers will, and look, that's been an issue, which is why legalizing is the way to go, so crime will be reduced and the criminal element.

I don't believe that legal weed growers/purchasers will call the police. We've had this discussion already and I've explained why. No point in explaining it again. It went over your head the first time. I don't expect a different result the second time.

Originally Posted by timberline742

Someday you'll get something right. Maybe.

Have you been drinking?

[wror]

The Majority of communities in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts have now Banned marijuana businesses

At least Six more additional Massachusetts communities Ban marijuana :

May 10, 2018
Hampden County
Southwick residents vote to prohibit recreational marijuana sales
SOUTHWICK, Mass. (WWLP) - Southwick residents voted to prohibit recreational marijuana sales Tuesday.
Voters went to Southwick Town Hall Tuesday to cast their ballots on the zoning bylaw and general bylaw that would ban the sale of recreational pot.....The Boston Globe has also reported that more than 180 out of the 351 municipalities across the state have already banned retail marijuana shops
Southwick residents vote on prohibiting recreational marijuana sales - WWLP

05/09/2018
Recreational pot banned by Town Meeting in Lancaster
LANCASTER Massachusetts -- All 14 warrant items, including votes to ban recreational marijuana retailers,,, were approved by residents
Recreational pot banned by Town Meeting in Lancaster - Sentinel & Enterprise


May 09, 2018
Harwich bans recreational pot
Harwich residents voted to ban recreational marijuana businesses from setting up shop in town.
residents voted 184 to 48 in favor of the ban
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...N4L/story.html


May 4, 2018
Mount Washington, Massachusetts bans marijuana businesses
'Mount Washington joined a growing list of Massachusetts municipalities that have passed local regulations banning for-profit marijuana sales and cultivation..'
http://www.berkshireeagle.com/storie...inesses,538853


Apr 24, 2018
Northboro town meeting bans medical marijuana treatment centers, recreational pot establishments
Town meeting voters approved bylaws Monday to prohibit medical marijuana treatment centers and all non-medical marijuana establishments in town.
John D. Mauro disputed the idea that marijuana is not a “gateway drug,” saying he has seen contrary evidence firsthand during his 23-year-old son’s decline from marijuana use to opioid addiction.
http://www.telegram.com/news/2018042...establishments


South Hadley voters approve ban on recreational marijuana sales
SOUTH HADLEY, Mass. (WWLP) - South Hadley voters have approved a ban on recreational marijuana sales in town.
http://www.wwlp.com/news/local-news/...les/1115850867

[jburress]

[quote=wror;51859238]The Majority of communities in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts have now Banned marijuana businesses

That only means the ones that haven't banned it are going to make a killing.

Can you imagine owning a cannabis business surrounded by communities that have banned stores? Those people will be millionaires within 6 months.

[GeePee]

[quote=jburress;51860285]

Originally Posted by wror

The Majority of communities in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts have now Banned marijuana businesses


Can you imagine owning a cannabis business surrounded by communities that have banned stores? Those people will be millionaires within 6 months.

Sad thing is that these people are already and have been millionaires for a while. This is who is going to get the permits for these shops. The only reason i was against POT legalization is because i was afraid it would be a case of the super rich getting super richer. there is not a high probability that you can just throw your hat in the ring without huge financial backing. This is another reason why I will support my local farmer and keep money out of the pink turkey necked billionaires fat mouths.