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Old 08-24-2018, 07:33 AM
 
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Massachusetts is the #5 state for opioid deaths per 100,000.
Citation: https://www.drugabuse.gov/drugs-abus...aries-by-state
West Virginia leads the pack with 43.40 deaths per 100,000. Massachusetts is 29.70 tied for #5 with Rhode Island.


The cops gunned down a neighborhood physician's kid in front of my house a couple of years ago. He survived but suicided in a state mental hospital 6 months later. He flunked out of Northeastern after drugs pushed him off the rails. It's everywhere.


In Vermont, Holyoke is the source for most of the heroin. Pretty much any heroin bust of an out-of-state dealer has a Bronx or Holyoke address. Mass plates and deep tinted windows get pulled over as standard operating procedure by the Vermont state police.
Dang, the entire northeast quadrant from Missouri to Maine looks pretty bad. Unfortunately it seems right to me though.
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Old 08-24-2018, 10:42 AM
 
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Dang, the entire northeast quadrant from Missouri to Maine looks pretty bad. Unfortunately it seems right to me though.

It's crushed small town northern New England. There are heroin zombies walking around places like Rutland VT and Claremont NH. It's more concentrated among the poor but nobody is immune from the problem. Proper treatment is expensive so it's mostly not happening. This isn't a Springfield problem other than that any city with a 30% poverty rate is going to have more of it than a leafy suburb.
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Old 08-24-2018, 04:17 PM
 
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In Vermont, Holyoke is the source for most of the heroin. Pretty much any heroin bust of an out-of-state dealer has a Bronx or Holyoke address. Mass plates and deep tinted windows get pulled over as standard operating procedure by the Vermont state police.

And in Maine they have either a Lawrence, Waterbury, CT or Bronx/Brooklyn, NY address.
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Old 08-24-2018, 05:23 PM
 
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I saw it first hand when I lived in Chicopee. Although my area wasn't high end, I never locked my garage doors, then little by little the area businesses started getting robbed. In the 12 years I lived in that house, I saw it all. The bank nearest to me was robbed twice. When they caught the guy he was a fire fighter from the station just a block away. A heroin addict.


https://www.masslive.com/news/index....charged_w.html



I even had the pleasure of renting the other apartment in my two family to a junkie and his crack head girlfriend. They sure presented well when they filled the application. Clean, employed, cute little daughter. I watched as they fell apart and I became the source for free housing for them as they plied their downslide. Last I saw him he was near the Holyoke Mall with a cardboard sign, claiming to be a homeless vet with PTSD.


Chicopee is close to the top in the state in overdose deaths
https://www.masslive.com/news/index....ghest_ove.html



I say, by looking at the arrest pictures that most came from middle class families and weren't even from Chicopee. It isn't a low income thing, it's just where they end up after their addictions are established, because that's where they can score easily that's where the methadone clinics and needle exchanges are. My nephew who was raised in Cary, NC (consistently named the top place to live in the country in every category) got addicted while away at an expensive university, and he was raised in a house where no one drank, smoked or even swore - stay at home mom, played every sport, involved dad, the works.
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Old 08-24-2018, 06:21 PM
 
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Did anyone here check out the new casino today? Or plans to go tonight / this weekend?
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Old 08-25-2018, 04:48 AM
 
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Did anyone here check out the new casino today? Or plans to go tonight / this weekend?

Seems like the opening went well. I didn't read any reports about traffic being unbearable. Funny, though, reading the comments on Masslive there are still people who think their negative opinions are going to somehow have an effect. It's done, folks, it's built. Years of negative input and dire predictions were outweighed, now it's time for the naysayers to stop hoping their predictions come true.


I suspect the majority of ill-wishers for everything that happens rarely leave their houses anyway. A friend of mine is a prime example. He hates the Big E because of the traffic on one of his two annual trips to Harbor Freight. Never went to a Thursday Bike Night but had every reason why it was a bad thing, hasn't been into Springfield for God knows how any years, but was concerned that MGM would destroy downtown. Jeez, it's like the only thing that would make some people happy is a gate across each end of Main Street so no one would ever disturb is pristine awesomeness.



Everything isn't life or death. I live 5 minutes across the bridge and you wouldn't even know that anything was going on in Springfield. Everything was going on as usual.

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Old 08-26-2018, 02:33 PM
 
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Seems like the opening went well. I didn't read any reports about traffic being unbearable. Funny, though, reading the comments on Masslive there are still people who think their negative opinions are going to somehow have an effect. It's done, folks, it's built. Years of negative input and dire predictions were outweighed, now it's time for the naysayers to stop hoping their predictions come true.


I suspect the majority of ill-wishers for everything that happens rarely leave their houses anyway. A friend of mine is a prime example. He hates the Big E because of the traffic on one of his two annual trips to Harbor Freight. Never went to a Thursday Bike Night but had every reason why it was a bad thing, hasn't been into Springfield for God knows how any years, but was concerned that MGM would destroy downtown. Jeez, it's like the only thing that would make some people happy is a gate across each end of Main Street so no one would ever disturb is pristine awesomeness.



Everything isn't life or death. I live 5 minutes across the bridge and you wouldn't even know that anything was going on in Springfield. Everything was going on as usual.
Probably the same people who say you will get shot if you dare walk in downtown Springfield.
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Old 08-26-2018, 07:37 PM
 
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Probably the same people who say you will get shot if you dare walk in downtown Springfield.

Of course, that is so rare that it's almost non existent. Shootings are 99% up in the Mason Square area and related to drugs. The myth of Springfield's downtown being a dangerous place for the average visitor is just that - a myth.
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Old 08-27-2018, 11:25 AM
 
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The other way I see it and some might get angered by it but if you don't use or sell drugs or are part of a gang that does then nothing happens. The war on drugs is sad and to a point we don't treat addictions the same among people. Someone can get addicted to alcohol just as much as say heroin but of course the purchase of one is legal whereas the other isn't. Then who they are buying it from etc.
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Old 08-27-2018, 12:19 PM
 
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The other way I see it and some might get angered by it but if you don't use or sell drugs or are part of a gang that does then nothing happens. The war on drugs is sad and to a point we don't treat addictions the same among people. Someone can get addicted to alcohol just as much as say heroin but of course the purchase of one is legal whereas the other isn't. Then who they are buying it from etc.

That's true pretty much anywhere in the country. If you have nothing to do with gangs, drugs, or prostitution, your risk is property crime, not violent crime.


The issue in the US at this point is unenlightened treatment. Once you're hooked, it's a spiral to the bottom with no way out unless you have family money to fund private treatment.
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