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Old 08-27-2018, 11:56 AM
 
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That's true pretty much anywhere in the country. If you have nothing to do with gangs, drugs, or prostitution, your risk is property crime, not violent crime.


The issue in the US at this point is unenlightened treatment. Once you're hooked, it's a spiral to the bottom with no way out unless you have family money to fund private treatment.
The compounding does help either. I have a bad apple in the family that got hooked in the late 90's. He had some behavior prior that was just wrong. In retrospect he should have seen a child psychiatrist but it's far too late now. He was violent but not anymore. Thankfully he doesn't live near me. He's been clean before for a bit and then back on. No one hires addicts for the most part. He was nearly hired at a retailer but once they saw the violent record they recoiled. He had a chance for landscaping but because of the lack of structure (10+ years of drug abuse) he just didn't show up. I'm all for helping people but he's well beyond that. Even without violence the court fees add up. Remember the Chapelle show? that's nearly 100% on with addicts. Stealing nearly anything to feed a habit. At one point I found a journal of his father and read just part of it. Steven King couldn't write horror on that level. Breaking Bad seems nearly biographical..for awhile it was that bad. Because he's non violent the prison system doesn't keep him in. He steals. Finds some dumb woman and befriends her parents and then suddenly 5K worth of things are gone...repeat. Can't trust him with cash, credit cards or even checks. The pawn shops there don't help either since they don't care about who their customer is or where it came from (this is the midwest).
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Old 08-28-2018, 01:59 PM
 
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Might be nice but I think there might be something else coming up...

MGM has the rights to bet on NBA games but it's still up to MGC to legalize that. The feds pretty much gave the OK. Sports betting could be a huge business. I'm not so much worried about the betting but how it would work with the game itself. If they do this MGM Springfield will be the only place in New England to bet on NBA games. It wasn't anticipated but it could be an interesting plus.

The movie theater supposedly opens in another two weeks and that will bring more in. I think there is more retail planned. The housing is going to be the big variable. If they don't get something done by next spring it will be spring 2020 for it to be completed. Court square could be great but I have no clue what happens to the old school district building.

It's going to be interesting as to how some of the store fronts get filled. Nosh is now fully open and looks good. Apparently some visitor center just opened up but i thought we got past that.

Maybe they could expand the mass mutual center but that could be years down the road.
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Old 08-28-2018, 02:53 PM
 
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It's going to be interesting as to how some of the store fronts get filled.

I had to be downtown today - drove by MGM. There's a privately owned clothing store that's building their interior right across from the casino entrance. Kind of a Northamptony looking shop. No problem with traffic, BTW, either on 91, Columbus Ave or Main Street.

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Old 10-31-2018, 01:25 AM
 
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The Springfield mob is the strip clubs, a few bars and little else


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akDr97DP214
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Old 10-31-2018, 09:36 AM
 
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I heard a story from a cop about Big Al once. He was in chicago with another officer at a restaurant plain clothed. The waiter asked where he was from and then said "Do you know Big Al?" Uh yeah we know him. The waiter thought they were in the mob so the meal was free.

With respect to the above (maybe I'll watch black mass again) in days of social media it's hard to keep anything on a lid. So if they find out that someone did talk that's what gets them. Many of those guys are never getting out so if they catch a whiff of anyone being an informant at any time they probably won't forget even decades later.
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Old 10-31-2018, 09:48 AM
 
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The Springfield mob is the strip clubs, a few bars and little else


I remember the Springfield mob as being in the south end area. It seemed there was/is more of a mob presence in West Springfield. Riverdale Rd, for one. Shady motels, strip clubs, "restaurants." IIRC, a relative of my Ex's boss was murdered by the mob in West Springfield. I think they just throw the bodies into the CT River.
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Old 11-01-2018, 05:40 PM
 
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Originally Posted by IWLC View Post
The Springfield mob is the strip clubs, a few bars and little else


I remember the Springfield mob as being in the south end area. It seemed there was/is more of a mob presence in West Springfield. Riverdale Rd, for one. Shady motels, strip clubs, "restaurants." IIRC, a relative of my Ex's boss was murdered by the mob in West Springfield. I think they just throw the bodies into the CT River.

I worked in one of the bars owned By Jimmy Santaniello in the 80s. It's funny when the stories make national news - I knew who those people were.


There were very few bars that weren't owned by him or others (Mardi Gras, Fifth Alarm, Anthony's, Charm definitely every bar in downtown Springfield and plenty in surrounding towns), although Santaniello was more of a cash register for others. They were pretty relentless in demanding their envelopes. He was well protected because not just the take from the bars, but all the illegal poker machines, pool tables, etc found homes in his bars. It was after the Manhattan family realized how much money was flowing through his bars that they began wanting their share. That's when everything started falling apart and eventually the murder of Al Bruno.


I thought there would be a thread relating to our hometown boy, Freddy Geas, now that he's the suspected killer of Whitey Bulger.
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Old 11-01-2018, 06:20 PM
 
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I worked in one of the bars owned By Jimmy Santaniello in the 80s. It's funny when the stories make national news - I knew who those people were.


There were very few bars that weren't owned by him or others (Mardi Gras, Fifth Alarm, Anthony's, Charm definitely every bar in downtown Springfield and plenty in surrounding towns), although Santaniello was more of a cash register for others. They were pretty relentless in demanding their envelopes. He was well protected because not just the take from the bars, but all the illegal poker machines, pool tables, etc found homes in his bars. It was after the Manhattan family realized how much money was flowing through his bars that they began wanting their share. That's when everything started falling apart and eventually the murder of Al Bruno.


I thought there would be a thread relating to our hometown boy, Freddy Geas, now that he's the suspected killer of Whitey Bulger.
You have the inside story!

Geas, 51, formerly of West Springfield, has been serving out a life sentence at the Hazelton federal penitentiary in West Virginia...

https://www.masslive.com/news/index....ey_bulger.html
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Old 11-02-2018, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts & Hilton Head, SC
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You have the inside story!

Geas, 51, formerly of West Springfield, has been serving out a life sentence at the Hazelton federal penitentiary in West Virginia...

https://www.masslive.com/news/index....ey_bulger.html
There's Geas and now a 2nd suspect from the North Shore, Paul J. DeCologero.
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