Referendum Questions: What were MA voters thinking? Treat nurses like slaves, and let men use women's restrooms. Huh? (Boston: school, community college)

[bjimmy24]

Originally Posted by cb2008

Why can't we have one bathroom that is non-gendered and one for women? Those who identify as women - that day or always - can use the women's room. Women's rooms are usually cleaner. Mixed gender bathrooms are always a bit dirtier.

I don't know, my gf would likely disagree with this characterization. She has told me some disgusting things.

Women I've lived with have also been exceedingly messy people.

[cb2008]

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

I don't know, my gf would likely disagree with this characterization. She has told me some disgusting things.

Women I've lived with have also been exceedingly messy people.

Even my husband says men's rooms are gross. They also have open urinals which smell.

[Space_League]

The vast majority of public restrooms are disgusting including the unisex single occupant variety.

Maybe it's not men or women who are disgusting but the things you go in there to do...


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Nah.

Women's room is worse for sure. All that blood and stuff

[Peabody99]

Originally Posted by 9162

It is interesting that MA voters decided to enforce the almost slave like environment imposed on med/surge nurses in MA hospitals lately, refusing to restrict, or limit the amount of patients these nurses have to provide care for. With many MA hospitals, it is currently almost impossible for many nurses to get all of their work done now as it is within an eight hour shift, often requiring nurses to work 12 hour shifts just to catch up on paper work.


Current transgendered laws allow for the privilege, of not just people who have undergone hormone replacement therapy, or sexual reassignment surgery to use the rest room or locker room of their choice, but ANYONE who claims to be transgendered, even temporarily, regardless of hormone therapy, or any other gender surgery they may have had, for that matter. If people are delusional about their birth gender, why is that its OK for the other 99.6% of the population to be compromised, and have their dignity sacrificed over someone else's severe mental illness?

Hospitals wouldn't be able to afford nursing have so few patients! Sone would have probably closed due to cost! Massachusetts has good doctors..I didn't feel like living in the south where people have poor hospital coverage, driving an hour + to a decent hospital. It's one of the reasons Massachusetts ranks pretty high among states, people live longer here and have access to doctors.

Not sure about the trangsgender vote, I agree with you and vetoed the way you did!

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by TAM88

Don't paint all nurses with the same brush. Are there some floors where they're over worked? Of course. But there are also other floors where they have a very light load. The union wanted to use a one size fits all approach and the ballot measure was poorly written. Hence why it was defeated in a run away landslide.

I'm not, and that is why the question was poorly conceived and I would not have voted Yes on it. There definitely is a problem at some hospitals though, that does need to be addressed (just not in that way).

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by cb2008

Why can't we have one bathroom that is non-gendered and one for women? Those who identify as women - that day or always - can use the women's room. Women's rooms are usually cleaner. Mixed gender bathrooms are always a bit dirtier.

Or why couldn't we just maintain the status quo. People enter the restroom of the gender they identify with, no questions asked. End of story. There wasn't an issue until people turned it into one, now we have opened up a HUGE can of worms to contend with.

[tysmith95]

Originally Posted by massnative71

Or why couldn't we just maintain the status quo. People enter the restroom of the gender they identify with, no questions asked. End of story. There wasn't an issue until people turned it into one, now we have opened up a HUGE can of worms to contend with.

Meaning the bigots that put question 3 on the ballot.

[slackercruster]

Originally Posted by 9162

It is interesting that MA voters decided to enforce the almost slave like environment imposed on med/surge nurses in MA hospitals lately, refusing to restrict, or limit the amount of patients these nurses have to provide care for. With many MA hospitals, it is currently almost impossible for many nurses to get all of their work done now as it is within an eight hour shift, often requiring nurses to work 12 hour shifts just to catch up on paper work.


Current transgendered laws allow for the privilege, of not just people who have undergone hormone replacement therapy, or sexual reassignment surgery to use the rest room or locker room of their choice, but ANYONE who claims to be transgendered, even temporarily, regardless of hormone therapy, or any other gender surgery they may have had, for that matter. If people are delusional about their birth gender, why is that its OK for the other 99.6% of the population to be compromised, and have their dignity sacrificed over someone else's severe mental illness?

Progressive does not always = good. With the amount of people in the job market, they can treat them as slaves.

Trans people's rights come over all other. Sorry, but that is the way of the dems. Dems don;t look at trans people as mentally ill. If you say so, then you are a transphobe or homophobe.

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by tysmith95

Meaning the bigots that put question 3 on the ballot.

You're just proving my point man.

[timberline742]

Originally Posted by slackercruster

Dems don;t look at trans people as mentally ill. .

I certainly hope no one is so ignorant to believe this is automatically the case no mater their party affiliation.